Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 From what I know about starting on Florinef is you need to start on 1/4 of the ..1 mg. pill and go up 1/4 of the pill every 5 days until your doing the .1 mg. pill every morning and one needs to take this with Sea Salt I do 1/2 tsp in a canteen 27oz. 3 to 4x's/day. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...> > > Subject: Re: HCT up again > > > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 5:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with that part > Phil,....your > > body is telling you that you are becoming dehydrated. > It > > isn't telling you that you need salt though. > > > > You just happen to drink sea salt with your water. > > > > > > > > I do the one glass with salt in the AM routine that > you > > folks mentioned, and it seems to keep me pretty well > all > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was some info about what it will do to the > heart > > this is just one way to tell. I use it all the > time If > > I am feeling like crap and my tongue is rugh and dry I > can > > put a 1/2 tsp of sea salt in a glass of water and > drink it > > and feel better very fast. > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Hertoghe told me to tale one capsule - Cant split them! And NO salt. So I followed his orders. It didnt work. 8 days was all I could take. But really, if electrolytes look ok and aldosteone is ok.... Why start fludrocortisone/flornief? Sendt fra min iPhone Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.10 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: From what I know about starting on Florinef is you need to start on 1/4 of the ..1 mg. pill and go up 1/4 of the pill every 5 days until your doing the .1 mg. pill every morning and one needs to take this with Sea Salt I do 1/2 tsp in a canteen 27oz. 3 to 4x's/day. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...> > > Subject: Re: HCT up again > > > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 5:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with that part > Phil,....your > > body is telling you that you are becoming dehydrated. > It > > isn't telling you that you need salt though. > > > > You just happen to drink sea salt with your water. > > > > > > > > I do the one glass with salt in the AM routine that > you > > folks mentioned, and it seems to keep me pretty well > all > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was some info about what it will do to the > heart > > this is just one way to tell. I use it all the > time If > > I am feeling like crap and my tongue is rugh and dry I > can > > put a 1/2 tsp of sea salt in a glass of water and > drink it > > and feel better very fast. > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Oh well,....I deleted that post but looks like you found it somehow! LOL Thought I might be giving too much advice mainly. I just happen to know what it can do to a person from watching. I thought my ex was losing her mind, as all she ever talked about was this feeling, that symptom, etc. She used to constantly say that her heart stopped beating, or was racing. Took her to the ER in the wee hours a couple of times only to find nothing wrong. She was put on xanax .25/3 times a day finally, and it really helped her a lot. She got off of it after about 6 months of use. My doc gave me a months worth as well when my step-father passed away mainly to help me sleep and chill out some. My brain would not turn off, and all I did was think and toss in bed. Phil,....you ever been checked for sleep apnea? I have heard that can cause the same thing at night. > > Good point marc I have to take Xanax a low dose .25 mgs every night when I go to bed. If I don't there are times I will wake up in panic be it high levels of E2 or a bad dream. Once this happens then I have them over and over again until my body settles down. > Co-Moderator > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT my heart symptoms Are REAL... Sendt fra min iPhone Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.34 skrev " marc200134470 " <cfs38@...>: Oh well,....I deleted that post but looks like you found it somehow! LOL Thought I might be giving too much advice mainly. I just happen to know what it can do to a person from watching. I thought my ex was losing her mind, as all she ever talked about was this feeling, that symptom, etc. She used to constantly say that her heart stopped beating, or was racing. Took her to the ER in the wee hours a couple of times only to find nothing wrong. She was put on xanax .25/3 times a day finally, and it really helped her a lot. She got off of it after about 6 months of use. My doc gave me a months worth as well when my step-father passed away mainly to help me sleep and chill out some. My brain would not turn off, and all I did was think and toss in bed. Phil,....you ever been checked for sleep apnea? I have heard that can cause the same thing at night. > > Good point marc I have to take Xanax a low dose .25 mgs every night when I go to bed. If I don't there are times I will wake up in panic be it high levels of E2 or a bad dream. Once this happens then I have them over and over again until my body settles down. > Co-Moderator > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Well, I suggest you set up an appointment ASAP with a cardiologist like I said before, or head to the ER the next time it happens. The things you are describing, if real, are nothing to be played with. I wish you well! > > Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT my heart symptoms Are REAL... > > Sendt fra min iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I have gone to the ER lots of times after having this and other heart symptoma. They never find anything (they only do ECGs) But a right blockage of the electrical pathway. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.57 skrev " marc200134470 " <cfs38@...>: Well, I suggest you set up an appointment ASAP with a cardiologist like I said before, or head to the ER the next time it happens. The things you are describing, if real, are nothing to be played with. I wish you well! > > Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT my heart symptoms Are REAL... > > Sendt fra min iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Here is a copy of a post to me from a mod. at Dr. 's forum he has been a big help. But on this one I don't think so. One of the guys JanZ tried some MLM pregnenolone in a very high does said doing this he was able to stop his HC meds and his Thyroid meds. He has yet to do labs to prove this worked for him. His posting about doing this others tired it and got dam sick stopping HC meds. I am not ready to try anything new every time I do I end up in a set back. My life is not much worth living the way I am feeling with all this pain and now being able to stand up or walk from being put on Statin drugs. I pray I start getting better I can't take this for the rest of my life. ================================================== Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 20, 2008 Posts: 4,512 Re: diesiel too low aldosterone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pmgamer18 I had this problem for yrs when my BPS was bad and I was getting a lot of bladder infections. Every week I went in for a T shot they would check my urine for infection and tell me I need to drink more water I am dehydrated. When I found STTM site and read at the Hypopituitary forum about low Aldosterone and taking Sea Salt I tested very low on Aldosterone and was put on Florinef. My Dr. told me I need to take Sea Salt with this med just like says at his forum or it will not work. I have a 27oz canteen I put a 1/2 tsp of Sea Salt in this and drink it all day I refill it 3 to 4 x's a day. And still my labs show from time to time I am dehydrated. Here are some of Chris's links on what he says about this he helped me a lot with this. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/vi...p?f=12 & t=15454 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/vi...p?f=12 & t=15453 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/vi...p?f=12 & t=15450 On top of this problem I was put on Statin Drugs and now my lower back, hips. and legs are so bad I can't walk with out a walker now. Here is a good link about Salt. That just spells to me that your body needs pregnenolone to create more aldosterone, and to reduce your cholesterol naturally. I believe that if you were to supplement with pregnenolone instead of florinef+HC+statins, then you wouldn't need to drink so many liquids and you wouldn't need to overdrive your salt to compensate for the lack of aldosterone (even though florinef mimics aldosterone's biological activity to some degree). And I believe PureChance is also compensating for a lack of aldosterone, by consuming relatively large amounts of salt. Fact: you did not need to suck down large amounts of salt before your car accident (which caused your pituitary dysfunction) did you ? Fact: if you optimized your hormones via exogenous means then you would restore your main hormone levels and balance to their values before your car accident, and then you wouldn't need large mounts of salt to compensate for a lack of aldosterone. .. __________________ Warning: A) Slow excreters have pooly functioning livers. They must monitor hormone levels very carefully, to ensure their dosages are low enough to prevent accumulation of hormones to the point where levels become excessive, or even toxic, after several days or weeks of supplementation. Fast excreters have excessive liver enzyme activity. These people require relatively high and frequent doses of hormones, and the cost of hormone supplementation, for these people, is relatively high. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...> > > > Subject: Re: HCT up again > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 5:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with that > part > > Phil,....your > > > body is telling you that you are becoming > dehydrated. > > It > > > isn't telling you that you need salt though. > > > > > > You just happen to drink sea salt with your > water. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do the one glass with salt in the AM routine > that > > you > > > folks mentioned, and it seems to keep me pretty > well > > all > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was some info about what it will do to > the > > heart > > > this is just one way to tell. I use it all > the > > time If > > > I am feeling like crap and my tongue is rugh and > dry I > > can > > > put a 1/2 tsp of sea salt in a glass of water > and > > drink it > > > and feel better very fast. > > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Yes I was put on a breathing machine they use for sleep apnea when I was in a coma my wife told me I would rip it off my face they had to try something diff. to keep me breathing. when I came to the Dr. for sleep apnea kept trying to get me to use this machine. I don't have apnea yet if I did there is no way I could put the crap on my face every night. Co-Moderator Phil > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...> > Subject: Re: HCT up again > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 1:34 PM > Oh well,....I deleted that post but > looks like you found it somehow! LOL > Thought I might be giving too much advice mainly. > > I just happen to know what it can do to a person from > watching. I thought my ex was losing her mind, as all she > ever talked about was this feeling, that symptom, etc. > She used to constantly say that her heart stopped beating, > or was racing. Took her to the ER in the wee hours a couple > of times only to find nothing wrong. > > She was put on xanax .25/3 times a day finally, and it > really helped her a lot. She got off of it after about 6 > months of use. > > My doc gave me a months worth as well when my step-father > passed away mainly to help me sleep and chill out some. My > brain would not turn off, and all I did was think and toss > in bed. > > Phil,....you ever been checked for sleep apnea? > I have heard that can cause the same thing at night. > > > > > > Good point marc I have to take Xanax a low dose .25 > mgs every night when I go to bed. If I don't there are > times I will wake up in panic be it high levels of E2 or a > bad dream. Once this happens then I have them over and > over again until my body settles down. > > Co-Moderator > > Phil > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I did EKG's Stress Testing nothing showed up then my Dr. ordered a 24 bit heart scan this showed me to have 2 bad blockages I don't think I would be here today is he did not keep looking. With me it all started with shortness of breath and Heartburn. Co-Moderator Phil > From: <gibcast@...> > Subject: Re: HCT up again > " " < > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 2:21 PM > I have gone to the ER lots of times > after having this and other heart symptoma. They never find > anything (they only do ECGs) > But a right blockage of the electrical pathway. > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.57 skrev " marc200134470 " <cfs38@...>: > > Well, I suggest you set up an appointment ASAP with a > cardiologist like I said before, or head to the ER the next > time it happens. The things you are describing, if real, are > nothing to be played with. > I wish you well! > > > > > > Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT my > heart symptoms Are REAL... > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I did Holter 24 hr monitoring many times. They never fond anything except extra systoles. Ans at the ER they find blockage of my right path. Or something. Nobody keeps looking for me with my heart! Should they? Sendt fra min iPhone Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 21.23 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: I did EKG's Stress Testing nothing showed up then my Dr. ordered a 24 bit heart scan this showed me to have 2 bad blockages I don't think I would be here today is he did not keep looking. With me it all started with shortness of breath and Heartburn. Co-Moderator Phil > From: <gibcast@...> > Subject: Re: HCT up again > " " < > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 2:21 PM > I have gone to the ER lots of times > after having this and other heart symptoma. They never find > anything (they only do ECGs) > But a right blockage of the electrical pathway. > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.57 skrev " marc200134470 " <cfs38@...>: > > Well, I suggest you set up an appointment ASAP with a > cardiologist like I said before, or head to the ER the next > time it happens. The things you are describing, if real, are > nothing to be played with. > I wish you well! > > > > > > Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT my > heart symptoms Are REAL... > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I don't under stand if they found a blockage of your right path what did they tell you about this and did they say what was needed to fix this. Sounds to me like you need this looked into deeper. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: <gibcast@...> > > Subject: Re: HCT up again > > " " > < > > > Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 2:21 PM > > I have gone to the ER lots of times > > after having this and other heart symptoma. They never > find > > anything (they only do ECGs) > > But a right blockage of the electrical pathway. > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > Den 10. okt. 2010 kl. 19.57 skrev " marc200134470 " > <cfs38@...>: > > > > Well, I suggest you set up an appointment ASAP with a > > cardiologist like I said before, or head to the ER the > next > > time it happens. The things you are describing, if > real, are > > nothing to be played with. > > I wish you well! > > > > > > > > > > Guys... I know being anxious is a bad thing BUT > my > > heart symptoms Are REAL... > > > > > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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