Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 CVS pharmacy charged me $125.00 for 2-10000iu of hcg (pegnyl) and wanted $226.000 for (Novarel) a few months ago.  I order from AllDayChemist.com  because many of the men frequently post about having great success and I found the same.  You can get 5-10000iu for $125.00 including shipping.  It can take 5-12 business days usually takes around 3 weeks for me.     From: wheresmylh <no_reply > Subject: HCG availability Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:51 AM  I have secondary hypogonadism and have been taking HCG for several years. But there's something funny going on with the availability. I wonder if anyone here knows what is going on behind the scenes and where one can find a steady supply at a reasonable price. For the first few years it was not too hard for me to find HCG and i usually obtained it from Costco at about $45 for a 10000 IU vial. They had both Novarel and Pregnyl at various times. Then, suddenly around 2 or 3 years ago it was impossible to find HCG at any regular pharmacy. I was finally able to find a pharmacy that specialized in fertility medicines that always had HCG in stock (Novarel). They sold it to me for about the same price as Costco. I obtained it there for a couple of years at least. Somewhere around 6 months ago the specialty pharmacy told me that they could still sell me HCG but the price would be going up to over $120 per 10000 IU (170% increase). They said that this was related to two factors: 1. Their contract with the makers of Novarel no longer allowed them to sell it at a preferred price to persons with hypogonadism, but only to women trying to become pregnant. 2. They said there was a current diet fad that involved claims that HCG could cause weight loss. This may have affected the supply and the price. This pharmacy also told me that HCG should now be available again at other pharmacies including Costco. They said that they would always have Novarel in stock but other pharmacies would likely sell me HCG at a much lower price. After a couple of months I was again able to get HCG at Costco. It was Pregnyl and cost around $60. Now after only two or three months Costco is again telling me that they cannot obtain HCG from their wholesaler. I'm wondering whether a lot of this is some kind of game on the part of major drug companies. HCG is refined from the urine of pregnant women. Thus the supply should be infinite. But I assume there is no patent on it. So perhaps the drug companies are trying to pressure the users to use much more expensive patented drugs. Pregnyl is made by Organon, and I noticed that the URL organon.com just leads to the Merck website. Also many years ago when Androgel was introduced I noticed the same type of thing; it became impossible to find injectable testosterone. In one case this was because the FDA closed down one of the factories producing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 With out going into a long story about HCG we are finding it very hard to get my Drug Care Plain now tells me they no longer Cover the cost of it and to get it it will cost me $280. I am in the Union and called my Rep he told me there has been no changes in my Drug Care Plain except we no longer use Caremark we now Use Medco and Medco told me this WTF I am so dam sick of this crap. They told me they were sending me an Appeal Forum my Rep said he was going to look into this. We went from on Drug plain to another and this is the problem. I am not messing with it any more I am getting my HCG from the ADC they all ways have it and you don't need a script for it. Most of what they sell comes in Glass Amps don’t get this brand get the ones that come in a small Vial. The water that comes with it is ment to be used when you mix it and will not keep in the fridge. So by there Bacteriostatic Water and mix it with this it will keep 30 days in the fridge. https://www.alldaychemist.com/1381-sterile-water-for-injection.html Here are the brands that come in Vials Corion 2000IU's cost is $12.00 if your doing a 250 IU's shot 2x's a week this will last just about 4 weeks. https://www.alldaychemist.com/searchindex.php?search_query=N The other brand is Ovidac 2000IU's cost is $11.50 same thing the water is not good for keeping 4 weeks in the fridge. https://www.alldaychemist.com/1292-ovidac-2000-iu.html This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's cost is $80.00 and I think it's made different the the 2 other ones. https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html All of the above come in 2000, 5000 and 10,000 IU's. Here is how you mix it. ================================= BTW...the water you need to reconstitute HCG is bacteriostatic water. Calculating HCG: There isn't a specific ratio of cc/ml to IU. It depends on how you mix it. It's quite simple. If you dillute 5,000 IUs HCG with 5ml (cc) solvent, the end result is 1,000 IUs per ml (cc). Divide the same 5,000 IUs with 10 ml (cc) and the end result is 500 IUs per ml (cc). Therefore, a large part depends on the concentration of HCG per ampoule or vial. Mixing HCG: (Items needed: bacwater h20 and some 5ml emty vials-get****). 1) Open hcg/amp with powder 2) Use a syringe to pull out 1cc of BacWater and put in amp with HCG 3) It will instantly dissolve 4) Then Use an empty 5ml vial (sterile and sealed) put 4ml of Bacwater in the vial 5) Take syringe and ad the mixed HCG solution to the 5ml vial 6) Shake it and you have 5000IU's of HCG 7) Than draw 1cc and inject 8) put the rest in the refrigerator •The reason your discarding the amp of solvent cause its made for 1 times use and you wouldn’t be able to refrigerate it and use it a week later again. That’s why you need Bac H2o. •The most common side affect associated with HCG is gynecomastia. The concurrent intake of Nolvadex with HCG prevents gynecomastia, prevents/minimizes leydig cell desensitization and contiues the stimulation of pituitary LH once HCG has been discontinued. •HCG will last approximately 30 days if mixed with Bac h2o instead of the solvent it comes with. •You can keep the mixed hcg in vial or pins In the fridge till use Co-Moderator Phil > From: wheresmylh <no_reply > > Subject: HCG availability > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 12:51 AM > I have secondary hypogonadism and > have been taking HCG for several years. But there's > something funny going on with the availability. I wonder if > anyone here knows what is going on behind the scenes and > where one can find a steady supply at a reasonable price. > > For the first few years it was not too hard for me to find > HCG and i usually obtained it from Costco at about $45 for a > 10000 IU vial. They had both Novarel and Pregnyl at > various times. Then, suddenly around 2 or 3 years ago > it was impossible to find HCG at any regular pharmacy. > I was finally able to find a pharmacy that specialized in > fertility medicines that always had HCG in stock > (Novarel). They sold it to me for about the same price > as Costco. I obtained it there for a couple of years at > least. > > Somewhere around 6 months ago the specialty pharmacy told > me that they could still sell me HCG but the price would be > going up to over $120 per 10000 IU (170% increase). > They said that this was related to two factors: 1. Their > contract with the makers of Novarel no longer allowed them > to sell it at a preferred price to persons with > hypogonadism, but only to women trying to become > pregnant. 2. They said there was a current diet fad > that involved claims that HCG could cause weight loss. > This may have affected the supply and the price. > > This pharmacy also told me that HCG should now be available > again at other pharmacies including Costco. They said > that they would always have Novarel in stock but other > pharmacies would likely sell me HCG at a much lower > price. After a couple of months I was again able to > get HCG at Costco. It was Pregnyl and cost around > $60. > > Now after only two or three months Costco is again telling > me that they cannot obtain HCG from their wholesaler. > > > I'm wondering whether a lot of this is some kind of game on > the part of major drug companies. HCG is refined from > the urine of pregnant women. Thus the supply should be > infinite. But I assume there is no patent on it. > So perhaps the drug companies are trying to pressure the > users to use much more expensive patented drugs. > Pregnyl is made by Organon, and I noticed that the URL > organon.com just leads to the Merck website. Also many > years ago when Androgel was introduced I noticed the same > type of thing; it became impossible to find injectable > testosterone. In one case this was because the FDA > closed down one of the factories producing it. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 The diet fad I think they are refering to consists of a 1000 calorie a day diet supplemented with HCG, and probably a couple of other things too. essentially is a starvation diet with steroids. I suspect this is what they are doing on the biggest loser, because the numbers they are losing are simply insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 > This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's cost is $80.00 and I think > it's made different the the 2 other ones. > https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html Hi, 80$ is a multi vial pack. a single 2000iu hucog is 10$, 5000iu is 13.75$, 10000iu is 22$ all are available in multipacks I just ordered some last night so I knew 80$ for a single 2000iu vial wasn't right... bacteriostic water is 0.75$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I just got off the phone with Medco my new drug care plain they were telling me HCG is not covered on my Plain and were sending me a forum to fill out to apple this. As I get this in the mail today Medco calls me telling me they are sending me my Noravel but they are charging me $45.00 because it's not a Generic. I talked to the rep until I was getting blue in the face getting no where. I asked to talk to a supper and this A hole told me the same thing. And it's all on the Computer what my cost was on my last refill and all I payed was a co payment of $10 I was getting 3 box's for 90 days for a copay of $20 but now they say they can only send me 1 months supply for $10.00. Now Medco tells me the Novarel is not a generic and if I got it from them without my Drug care plain the cost would be $280.00. Well I don't have to tell anyone here what I am going to do I am ordering from ADC. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...> > Subject: Re: HCG availability > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:56 PM > > > This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's cost is > $80.00 and I think > > it's made different the the 2 other ones. > > https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html > > Hi, > > 80$ is a multi vial pack. > > a single 2000iu hucog is 10$, 5000iu is 13.75$, 10000iu is > 22$ > > all are available in multipacks > > I just ordered some last night so I knew 80$ for a single > 2000iu vial wasn't right... bacteriostic water is 0.75$ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I just got off the phone with Medco my new drug care plain they were telling me HCG is not covered on my Plain and were sending me a forum to fill out to apple this. As I get this in the mail today Medco calls me telling me they are sending me my Noravel but they are charging me $45.00 because it's not a Generic. I talked to the rep until I was getting blue in the face getting no where. I asked to talk to a supper and this A hole told me the same thing. And it's all on the Compoutor what my cost was on my last refill and all I payed was a copayment of $10 I was getting 3 box's for 90 days for a copay of $20 but now they say they can only send me 1m Co-Moderator Phil > From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...> > Subject: Re: HCG availability > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:56 PM > > > This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's cost is > $80.00 and I think > > it's made different the the 2 other ones. > > https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html > > Hi, > > 80$ is a multi vial pack. > > a single 2000iu hucog is 10$, 5000iu is 13.75$, 10000iu is > 22$ > > all are available in multipacks > > I just ordered some last night so I knew 80$ for a single > 2000iu vial wasn't right... bacteriostic water is 0.75$ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 goto allday.com I send patients there that insurance does not cover novarel..80 bucks a month is a lot for hcg .. > > > From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...> > > Subject: Re: HCG availability > > > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:56 PM > > > > > This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's cost is > > $80.00 and I think > > > it's made different the the 2 other ones. > > > https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html > > > > Hi, > > > > 80$ is a multi vial pack. > > > > a single 2000iu hucog is 10$, 5000iu is 13.75$, 10000iu is > > 22$ > > > > all are available in multipacks > > > > I just ordered some last night so I knew 80$ for a single > > 2000iu vial wasn't right... bacteriostic water is 0.75$ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I talked to my Union Rep he told me there are no changes in my Drug Care Plain and we just switched from Caremark to Medco and they are messing up everything telling people there drug is not covered or charging them to much money. He said they will have this fixed but I feel I am going to have big problems getting GH, T and HCG. When you talk to them they read off a screen and the info on there screen is not right. I am so sick of this crap with mail order Drugs this is going on all the them and the calls they make to the Dr. for every script is why out of line. It's so bad my Dr. will not talk to them anymore. I just started on GH and it took me 7 weeks to get this approved now I have to go through all that crap all over again. Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: Re: HCG availability > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 9:46 PM > goto allday.com I send patients there > that insurance does not cover novarel..80 bucks a month is a > lot for hcg .. > > > > > > > From: jbbooks1901 <jbbooks1901@...> > > > Subject: Re: HCG availability > > > > > > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:56 PM > > > > > > > This last brand is Hucog 2000IU's but it's > cost is > > > $80.00 and I think > > > > it's made different the the 2 other ones. > > > > https://www.alldaychemist.com/1264-h.html > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > 80$ is a multi vial pack. > > > > > > a single 2000iu hucog is 10$, 5000iu is 13.75$, > 10000iu is > > > 22$ > > > > > > all are available in multipacks > > > > > > I just ordered some last night so I knew 80$ for > a single > > > 2000iu vial wasn't right... bacteriostic water is > 0.75$ > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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