Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 It was the doing the shot the day before not to worry next day it can peak at up to 1400 I had a good link from MESO that had a chart showing how your levels go up day to day after a 100 mgs shot. But I can't find it. Yes you can cut back on the Arimidex I did not I hit the sweet spot and got night time and morning wood and kept it for about 2 weeks on .5 mgs every other day then lost it going to low. So there is a rebound effect that happens with you cut back and you can go back up some so try .25 every other day. When you get your wood just watch for it to stop that day stop the arimidex until it comes back then go back on it but cut the dose. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios@...> > Subject: Too high on T? > > Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 2:58 PM > I had lab work done recently and it > was scheduled, unfortunately, for the day after my T shot > of 100 mg. The values I got were: > > Total T = 1299 (range 250-1100) > T Free Percent = 2.87 (range 1.50-2-20) > Free T = 372.8 (range 35-155) > > Estradiol was also tested and came in at 34 (down from 130 > about 4 or 5 weeks ago w/ .5mg Arimidex eod. I'm about to > change that to .25 eod or e3d so I don't overshoot the sweet > spot). > > All of the T levels are a bit high I think. Is this likely > a result of the shot having been done the day before? Or > should I be doing something to address this? The last test I > had prior to this (about 5 weeks ago) showed a total T value > of 977 (and *that* test was the day *before* my shot). I'm > also about to start HCG. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hey Kyrios - that is a typical value for doing ~ 100mg shot every 7 days - you spike to ~ 1400 and then coast down to ~ 800 by end of the week. The higher you keep your T the more conversion you get to E2 so the more arimidex you have to have. One thing you might want to consider before starting the HCG is reducing your T shot to around 80 mgs. Otherwise your total T is going to remain elevated the whole time (probably >1000). This could be a good combination for you, you just have to try it. We are all different. When I started HCG it increased my Total T by ~ 300 ng/dl. It also increased my E2. I personally like to minimize how much drugs I introduce into my body so I restrict my T shot to ~ 80 mg per 7 days. I have not been on HCG for a while but thinking about starting again due primarily to testicle atrophy. Â Arkansas From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios@...> Subject: Too high on T? Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 1:58 PM Â I had lab work done recently and it was scheduled, unfortunately, for the day after my T shot of 100 mg. The values I got were: Total T = 1299 (range 250-1100) T Free Percent = 2.87 (range 1.50-2-20) Free T = 372.8 (range 35-155) Estradiol was also tested and came in at 34 (down from 130 about 4 or 5 weeks ago w/ .5mg Arimidex eod. I'm about to change that to .25 eod or e3d so I don't overshoot the sweet spot). All of the T levels are a bit high I think. Is this likely a result of the shot having been done the day before? Or should I be doing something to address this? The last test I had prior to this (about 5 weeks ago) showed a total T value of 977 (and *that* test was the day *before* my shot). I'm also about to start HCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks Dan! I appreciate the info and insight. I was going to take your advice anyway but as soon as I read it I called the endo's office. Just got a call from his nurse saying that he's in " total agreement " with dropping T to 80/week. GREAT call on your part. I just dropped my Arimidex to .25 eod from .5 eod. E2 is down to 34 from 130 so I don't want to mess that up again. I'll be following Dr. Crisler's HCG protocol of 250 IU on the 2 days before the T shot. ________________________________ From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 10:16:26 AM Subject: Re: Too high on T? Hey Kyrios - that is a typical value for doing ~ 100mg shot every 7 days - you spike to ~ 1400 and then coast down to ~ 800 by end of the week. The higher you keep your T the more conversion you get to E2 so the more arimidex you have to have. One thing you might want to consider before starting the HCG is reducing your T shot to around 80 mgs. Otherwise your total T is going to remain elevated the whole time (probably >1000). This could be a good combination for you, you just have to try it. We are all different. When I started HCG it increased my Total T by ~ 300 ng/dl. It also increased my E2. I personally like to minimize how much drugs I introduce into my body so I restrict my T shot to ~ 80 mg per 7 days. I have not been on HCG for a while but thinking about starting again due primarily to testicle atrophy. Arkansas From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios (DOT) com> Subject: Too high on T? Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 1:58 PM I had lab work done recently and it was scheduled, unfortunately, for the day after my T shot of 100 mg. The values I got were: Total T = 1299 (range 250-1100) T Free Percent = 2.87 (range 1.50-2-20) Free T = 372.8 (range 35-155) Estradiol was also tested and came in at 34 (down from 130 about 4 or 5 weeks ago w/ .5mg Arimidex eod. I'm about to change that to .25 eod or e3d so I don't overshoot the sweet spot). All of the T levels are a bit high I think. Is this likely a result of the shot having been done the day before? Or should I be doing something to address this? The last test I had prior to this (about 5 weeks ago) showed a total T value of 977 (and *that* test was the day *before* my shot). I'm also about to start HCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I have an appointment with a new Dr. (he is a DO) this week and plan to do the same - maybe we can compare notes down the road. I plan to request:  80 mg Depo T every 7 days 0.25mg 2 to 3 times a week HCG - ~ 250 iu days 5 and 6 Cialis as needed  Arkansas From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios (DOT) com> Subject: Too high on T? Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 1:58 PM I had lab work done recently and it was scheduled, unfortunately, for the day after my T shot of 100 mg. The values I got were: Total T = 1299 (range 250-1100) T Free Percent = 2.87 (range 1.50-2-20) Free T = 372.8 (range 35-155) Estradiol was also tested and came in at 34 (down from 130 about 4 or 5 weeks ago w/ .5mg Arimidex eod. I'm about to change that to .25 eod or e3d so I don't overshoot the sweet spot). All of the T levels are a bit high I think. Is this likely a result of the shot having been done the day before? Or should I be doing something to address this? The last test I had prior to this (about 5 weeks ago) showed a total T value of 977 (and *that* test was the day *before* my shot). I'm also about to start HCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I would be very interested and pleased to compare notes, Dan! I'll keep you posted on my progress. Have you seen the new doc yet? ________________________________ From: Dan Meatheany <dmeatheany@...> Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 12:14:28 PM Subject: Re: Too high on T? I have an appointment with a new Dr. (he is a DO) this week and plan to do the same - maybe we can compare notes down the road. I plan to request: 80 mg Depo T every 7 days 0.25mg 2 to 3 times a week HCG - ~ 250 iu days 5 and 6 Cialis as needed Arkansas From: Kyrios Ouranos <okyrios (DOT) com> Subject: Too high on T? Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 1:58 PM I had lab work done recently and it was scheduled, unfortunately, for the day after my T shot of 100 mg. The values I got were: Total T = 1299 (range 250-1100) T Free Percent = 2.87 (range 1.50-2-20) Free T = 372.8 (range 35-155) Estradiol was also tested and came in at 34 (down from 130 about 4 or 5 weeks ago w/ .5mg Arimidex eod. I'm about to change that to .25 eod or e3d so I don't overshoot the sweet spot). All of the T levels are a bit high I think. Is this likely a result of the shot having been done the day before? Or should I be doing something to address this? The last test I had prior to this (about 5 weeks ago) showed a total T value of 977 (and *that* test was the day *before* my shot). I'm also about to start HCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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