Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 There are men here Phil is one he was very sick on TRT not feeling any better. I got him to see Dr. O and Hardasnails after he seen many Dr.'s. Dr. O and Hard found out his problems were Milk and Gluten allergys. Phil now is a new man after many yrs of suffering. I can't tell you how to come off Androgel but I can tell you what your Dr. is trying way out there you can't come off TRT like you would a pain meds. You need to take Clomid and other things to jump start your self again. Coming off TRT is not much diff. the Bodybuilders coming off Steroids. Send Hardasnails and Email talke to him about doing this. ================================================== Overbeck hardasnails1973@... 484-868-0916 contact 1100 fayette st Conshohocken Internal medicine Male and female hormone disorders and metabolic disorders 610-828-2026 =================================================== Or see if your family Dr. will work with Dr. over the phone to do this it is not easy. ================================================== Crisler DO PLLC doctorjohn@... 1-517-485-4424 320-322 West Ottawa Garden Level Lansing , Michigan 48933 Hormone Replacement Exclusively for Men 1-815-301-2716 Co-Moderator Phil > From: Shaun <shaunskel@...> > Subject: Getting off the T > > Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 8:16 PM > Hey everyone its been a while since I > posted. I have been to a couple more doctors and found I > have a gluten allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on > 5mg of andro a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten > free diet. Now my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are > going one packet every other day for two months. This should > be interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Congrats on that. Mine skyrocketed to > 800 after adding cortisone (isocort) to my regime. So, like you I'm thinking that I may be able to get off of T one of these days. My plan, however is to move to something like HCG or clomid to jump start my testis into doing their thing. Did your endo talk about that? Any comments on that? > > Hey everyone its been a while since I posted. I have been to a couple more doctors and found I have a gluten allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on 5mg of andro a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free diet. Now my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are going one packet every other day for two months. This should be interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 No my endo pretty much laughed at me when I suggested it might be gluten causing all my probelms. a@#hole. > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I posted. I have been to a couple more doctors and found I have a gluten allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on 5mg of andro a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free diet. Now my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are going one packet every other day for two months. This should be interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Endo's think they are God's gift to man kind they are legends in there own minds. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Shaun <shaunskel@...> > Subject: Re: Getting off the T > > Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 1:22 PM > > No my endo pretty much laughed at me when I suggested it > might be gluten causing all my probelms. a@#hole. > > > > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I posted. I > have been to a couple more doctors and found I have a gluten > allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on 5mg of andro > a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free diet. Now > my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are going one > packet every other day for two months. This should be > interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 question, when I first started T I was feeling really good. Great libido etc, then I went gluten free and felt really good for a while then slumped a bit. Do you think it is possible that when I went gluten free and startd producing my own that I had so much my body started converting some to estrogen? > > > > > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I posted. I > > have been to a couple more doctors and found I have a gluten > > allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on 5mg of andro > > a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free diet. Now > > my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are going one > > packet every other day for two months. This should be > > interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 That would be my guess. > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I posted. I > > > have been to a couple more doctors and found I have a gluten > > > allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on 5mg of andro > > > a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free diet. Now > > > my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are going one > > > packet every other day for two months. This should be > > > interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I can't say when it comes to Estradiol in men we are bombarded with it it's every where in the water from the plastic we drink it from. The food we eat and the meat are full of it. It's every where all you can do is test it and if it's high over 20 pg/ml take something to bring it down or it will make you dam sick. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Shaun <shaunskel@...> > Subject: Re: Getting off the T > > Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 3:56 PM > question, when I first started T I > was feeling really good. Great libido etc, then I went > gluten free and felt really good for a while then slumped a > bit. Do you think it is possible that when I went gluten > free and startd producing my own that I had so much my body > started converting some to estrogen? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I > posted. I > > > have been to a couple more doctors and found I > have a gluten > > > allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on > 5mg of andro > > > a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free > diet. Now > > > my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are > going one > > > packet every other day for two months. This > should be > > > interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Sick in what way? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone its been a while since I > > posted. I > > > > have been to a couple more doctors and found I > > have a gluten > > > > allergy. I went from being in the 220 range on > > 5mg of andro > > > > a day to 585 with 5 mg of andro and a gluten free > > diet. Now > > > > my endo wants to to wean me off the t. we are > > going one > > > > packet every other day for two months. This > > should be > > > > interesting. Anyone have experience with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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