Re: Today's T-shot - Not so good

[Guest guest]

First off use a smaller needle when you aspirated and seen what looked like a

bubble is just some fat going into the needle. If you don't see blood do the

shot.

What happened to you is you sent through a vain you did not shoot into it but

when you pulled out this dam big needle you see blood. I do this off and on

using my 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle. I always had the pad in my hand to put over

the spot when I take out the needle.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Today's T-shot - Not so good

>

> Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 11:58 AM

> I just gave myself my 4th shot

> today.

> It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed

> the needle.

>

> .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

>

> Filled the syringe, started the injection.  When I

> aspirated, I noticed a bubble forming in the syringe, so I

> decided to remove the syringe and try to get the bubble

> out.

>

> So I found another site and got the needle in. 

> Aspirated okay.

> Injected okay.

> As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted

> from my leg.

> I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time

> blood was running down my leg and all over my hands.

> It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's

> been okay since.

>

> What happened?  Did I pass through a vein or

> something?

> Did I lose all my T?  I have no idea if it came out

> with the blood.  I'd tend to think " no " because I was

> using a 1.5 " needle.

>

> What in the world!?!

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Unlike Phil, I think you are using the correct size needle.

Evidently you nicked a vein. Maybe you went right through it and injected into

muscle on the other side. If you really injected into a vein you'd have felt a

" rush " at a weeks worth of T entered your bloodstream in a few minutes.

You didn't say where you injected. You need to learn the correct place to

inject. The Gluetus Maximus or Vastus Lateralis are the best two muscles.

I've had T injections for the past three years and exactly once I've had a

gusher like you experienced. About 3 times it actually hurt, and the others

were nearly painless, and only a tiny blood spot.

Anyway, you are doing fine and just had a bit of bad luck. You probably couldn't

make that happen again if you tried.

Randy Hoops

>

> I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed the needle.

>

> .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

>

> Filled the syringe, started the injection. When I aspirated, I noticed a

bubble forming in the syringe, so I decided to remove the syringe and try to get

the bubble out.

>

> So I found another site and got the needle in. Aspirated okay.

> Injected okay.

> As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted from my leg.

> I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time blood was running

down my leg and all over my hands.

> It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's been okay since.

>

> What happened? Did I pass through a vein or something?

> Did I lose all my T? I have no idea if it came out with the blood. I'd tend

to think " no " because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

>

> What in the world!?!

>

[Guest guest]

Okay Thanks.

It was in the side of the thigh, so I guess Vastus Lateralis. I call it the

side of my quadricep. I have plenty of mass there so I don't think exact

placement is much of an issue.

I'll just put it out of my mind and hope to do better next week.

> >

> > I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> > It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed the needle.

> >

> > .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

> >

> > Filled the syringe, started the injection. When I aspirated, I noticed a

bubble forming in the syringe, so I decided to remove the syringe and try to get

the bubble out.

> >

> > So I found another site and got the needle in. Aspirated okay.

> > Injected okay.

> > As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted from my leg.

> > I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time blood was running

down my leg and all over my hands.

> > It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's been okay since.

> >

> > What happened? Did I pass through a vein or something?

> > Did I lose all my T? I have no idea if it came out with the blood. I'd

tend to think " no " because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

> >

> > What in the world!?!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I prefer injecting myself in the glute. I find the thigh to be more painful.

There are plenty of sites showing correct placement of injections at various

sites.

One advantage of the thigh is that you can see the needle to aspirate it. I

don't do that in the glute, so I am taking a chance on hitting a blood

vessel. If you do his a blood vessel, then you will end up with oil in your

lungs. It is not very dangerous, but it will make you cough a bit. If you

have a lung disease, it could be a problem.

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Dave <dcbaden@...> wrote:

>

>

> Okay Thanks.

> It was in the side of the thigh, so I guess Vastus Lateralis. I call it the

> side of my quadricep. I have plenty of mass there so I don't think exact

> placement is much of an issue.

> I'll just put it out of my mind and hope to do better next week.

>

>

> > >

> > > I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> > > It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed the needle.

> > >

> > > .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

> > >

> > > Filled the syringe, started the injection. When I aspirated, I noticed

> a bubble forming in the syringe, so I decided to remove the syringe and try

> to get the bubble out.

> > >

> > > So I found another site and got the needle in. Aspirated okay.

> > > Injected okay.

> > > As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted from my leg.

> > > I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time blood was

> running down my leg and all over my hands.

> > > It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's been okay

> since.

> > >

> > > What happened? Did I pass through a vein or something?

> > > Did I lose all my T? I have no idea if it came out with the blood. I'd

> tend to think " no " because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

> > >

> > > What in the world!?!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

always put pressure on the spot when you pull out.

but I think you'll do better with something like a 25g*1 " (smaller and shorter)

or even a 29g 1/2 " insulin syringe... they take a while to get the dose in with

that small needle but the shot is easier.

>

> I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed the needle.

>

> .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

>

> Filled the syringe, started the injection. When I aspirated, I noticed a

bubble forming in the syringe, so I decided to remove the syringe and try to get

the bubble out.

>

> So I found another site and got the needle in. Aspirated okay.

> Injected okay.

> As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted from my leg.

> I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time blood was running

down my leg and all over my hands.

> It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's been okay since.

>

> What happened? Did I pass through a vein or something?

> Did I lose all my T? I have no idea if it came out with the blood. I'd tend

to think " no " because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

>

> What in the world!?!

>

[Guest guest]

When I shoot into my thigh I start about 6 " from my knee and do the shot just

off the top to the out side not the side.

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Today's T-shot - Not so good

>

> Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 8:06 PM

> Okay  Thanks. 

> It was in the side of the thigh, so I guess Vastus

> Lateralis.  I call it the side of my quadricep.  I

> have plenty of mass there so I don't think exact placement

> is much of an issue. 

> I'll just put it out of my mind and hope to do better next

> week.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> > > It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when

> I removed the needle.

> > >

> > > .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

> > >

> > > Filled the syringe, started the injection. 

> When I aspirated, I noticed a bubble forming in the syringe,

> so I decided to remove the syringe and try to get the bubble

> out.

> > >

> > > So I found another site and got the needle

> in.  Aspirated okay.

> > > Injected okay.

> > > As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally

> squirted from my leg.

> > > I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by

> this time blood was running down my leg and all over my

> hands.

> > > It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of

> pressure. It's been okay since.

> > >

> > > What happened?  Did I pass through a vein or

> something?

> > > Did I lose all my T?  I have no idea if it

> came out with the blood.  I'd tend to think " no "

> because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

> > >

> > > What in the world!?!

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Just an update:

I think I found the source of the gusher. I examined the needle spot closely

and see that I went RIGHT through a vein under my skin. These veins are hard to

see as I have pretty thick skin (probably from being hypothyroid). It's those

same veins you see up and down a bodybuidler's thighs - but I'm no bodybuilder!

Next time I'll pay closer attention.

>

> When I shoot into my thigh I start about 6 " from my knee and do the shot just

off the top to the out side not the side.

> http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

[Guest guest]

In my experience, every now and then this will happen. My wife's a registered

nurse, and she gives me my shots most of the time - in the glutes. Every now and

then, there will be some blood. Sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. I think

it's just a side-effect of sticking a needle into your skin and muscle. I

wouldn't sweat it.

>

> I just gave myself my 4th shot today.

> It didn't go so well -had a gusher of blood when I removed the needle.

>

> .5 ml in a 1ml syringe 1.5 " 23ga needle.

>

> Filled the syringe, started the injection. When I aspirated, I noticed a

bubble forming in the syringe, so I decided to remove the syringe and try to get

the bubble out.

>

> So I found another site and got the needle in. Aspirated okay.

> Injected okay.

> As soon as I removed the needle, blood literally squirted from my leg.

> I scrambled to get an alcohol pad on it, but by this time blood was running

down my leg and all over my hands.

> It stopped bleeding with a few seconds of pressure. It's been okay since.

>

> What happened? Did I pass through a vein or something?

> Did I lose all my T? I have no idea if it came out with the blood. I'd tend

to think " no " because I was using a 1.5 " needle.

>

> What in the world!?!

>