Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Before someone replies to what I wrote below, I want to add the rest of the hormone results that I got today: S-Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) Free Testosterone Index 8.0 (3,0 – 14,7) NOTE: FTI = testosterone (nmol/l) x 10/SHBG (nmol/l) = result. Estradiol 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) SHBG 23 (8 - 60 nmol/l) S-Cortisol 665 (138 - 690 nmol/l) FSH 1.6 (<12,0 IE/l) LH 3.2 (<12,0 IE/l) Progesterone 1.4 (< 3,0 nmol/l) OH-progesterone 3.8 (1,8 - 10,4 nmol/l) S-Aldosterone - In process S-Dihydrotestosteron - In process S-rT3 - In process Comments? Should I/Do I need Arimidex based on these labs? Or any other changes? Total T looks a bit lowish to be! Weird!?!? From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> Subject: Latest Testo and E2 results Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:09 AM  I just got these real quickly over the phone form my stressed out GP: Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take Arimidex now!) So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the point where it is now: High in range!) because of other factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary I eat? Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. So... What's up? All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is definitely optimal right now. Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big MYSTERY............................... And could very well have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi How old are you? I am asking as that level of T 18.3 (8-35) before T replacement looks ok to me. My reading at age 53 was 4 (8-35) and that was low. I am not sure why you are on testosterone replacement. ok now your low sex drive I would say that is from high E2 at the moment. Try arimidex split pill in 4 and use every 4 days. try Zink suplement pill in morning too never heard of dairy products causing high E2 milk can maybe cause your stomach problems your " a lot less volume in the ejaculate " that is caused by replacing T with gels or injections nothing you can do about it i have same problem You have to post your lab results here before any therapy was started before we can comment also any medications you are on > > I just got these real quickly over the phone form my stressed out GP: > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take Arimidex now!) > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the point where it is now: High in range!) because of other factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary I eat? > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. So... What's up? > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is definitely optimal right now. > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big MYSTERY............................... And could very well have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I am 32, and I was 21 when I came to my dr, Dr. Hertoghe in Brussels, Belgium. I live in Norway. My Total T was 10 when I was overweight in my teens, not taking any hormones at all. I was 320 lbs heavy and clearly Hypothyroid, but blood samples told the endos I was within range. I finally got treated at age 18 at an outcast of an endo who took my SYMTOMS seriously, not just staring blindly at blood values. T4-treatment made me drop more than 100 lbs in less than a year, and my Total T went up to 15-25. But never more than 25 while on optimal Thyroid. I DID FEEL AMAZING in this period: 1997-2007. I had the best sexlife possible, erections were never an issue, ejaculate was great, and volume was huge! In the past 3 years however, I have been put off Thyroid by the first public endos who once (in 1997) told me I was healthy despite my Hypo-symptoms and massive overweight, condition worsened, and I have not live a life at all in the past 3 years. I was put on TRT, DHEA, ERFA THYROID and HC 1 year ago by Dr. Hertoghe, the worlds premiere hormone doctor. I have lost almost 40 lbs in this time, and been eating lowcarb, glutenfree diets. The S-Testosterone (Total Testosterone) value you see here at 18, is while on TRT, 1 pump daily, that's 1 gram gel with 100 mg Testosterone in it. I don't know why this value is not higher. Anyway. I was put on TRT because my Total T was low range when I came to Dr. Hertoghe. However, I was off the gel for 1 month last summer, and my Total T was at 15 when I was off the gel. Not high enough, but I think it would've been higher if I had been optimal in Thyroid. I am not optimal in Thyroid now, but Hertoghe doesn't believe in treating ONE hormone optimal; He likes to treat ALL hormones and balance them! I hate my sexlife now. It's non-existent. I feel little to no desire. I can get a GREAT erection if I try, but I have to try! I don't get them naturally anymore. I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know if I quit TRT, I will get a normal working penis agian with better ejaculate volume! What's weird was that when I tried 0.25 mg Arimidex one day, then another dose 2 days later, I got better erections, I was more horny, and I had better ejaculate! WEIRD huh? So I don't know what to do now... I also have a stomach issue that no-one has found out what is in the last 3 1/2 years. Note: My stomach issue (loose/pale stools) started 1/2 year before my whole body crashed. Maybe the STOMACH is the ROOT of all evil in me. Whatever's wrong with it. I did visit Russia 3 times and got issues with the stomach while being over there. So maybe some commie bacteria, who knows. From: Leon Eksteen <zorroceasar@...> Subject: Re: Latest Testo and E2 results Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:29 PM Â Hi How old are you? I am asking as that level of T 18.3 (8-35) before T replacement looks ok to me. My reading at age 53 was 4 (8-35) and that was low. I am not sure why you are on testosterone replacement. ok now your low sex drive I would say that is from high E2 at the moment. Try arimidex split pill in 4 and use every 4 days. try Zink suplement pill in morning too never heard of dairy products causing high E2 milk can maybe cause your stomach problems your " a lot less volume in the ejaculate " that is caused by replacing T with gels or injections nothing you can do about it i have same problem You have to post your lab results here before any therapy was started before we can comment also any medications you are on > > I just got these real quickly over the phone form my stressed out GP: > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take Arimidex now!) > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the point where it is now: High in range!) because of other factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary I eat? > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. So... What's up? > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is definitely optimal right now. > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big MYSTERY............................... And could very well have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Tom your levels are double what they should be .7 would be normal for you if my units are right. Here in the USA the sweet spot is 20 pg/ml or 74 pmol/L. If I were you suffering from this high E2 I would do the Arimidex. You got sick around the time you took it last so this time try only taking one dose to see how your stomach feels don't take it every other day or what your Dr. told you to do just once to see how you feel if you get sick on it then you know. And doing this low dose once you will not feel bad long. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Latest Testo and E2 results > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 8:09 PM > I just got these real quickly over > the phone form my stressed out GP: > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg > testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take > Arimidex now!) > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes > a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the > point where it is now: High in range!) because of other > factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed > from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how > hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other > hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary > (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary > I eat? > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in > range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking > TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I > remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. > So... What's up? > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I > rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like > that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak > ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also > orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is > definitely optimal right now. > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big > MYSTERY............................... And could very well > have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Tom, It's hard to get good levels with high E2 levels. Co-Moderator Phil > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Latest Testo and E2 results > > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:09 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > Â > > > Â Â > Â Â Â > Â Â Â > Â Â Â I just got these real quickly over the > phone form my stressed out GP: > > > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg > testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take > Arimidex now!) > > > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes > a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the > point where it is now: High in range!) because of other > factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed > from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how > hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other > hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary > (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary > I eat? > > > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in > range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking > TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I > remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. > So... What's up? > > > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I > rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like > that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak > ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also > orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is > definitely optimal right now. > > > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big > MYSTERY............................... And could very well > have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Really, Phil? So Testosterone does NOT increase well when E2 is high? I do feel different when I am on TRT. When I am TRT my E2 is higher. I don't feel well with higher E2. So I guess high E2 is one of the culprits of the Total of All I feel like right now. Plus the stomach, which has been bad since 2007. Hopefully I will force myself to do the Coloscopy next week. > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Latest Testo and E2 results > > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:09 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > Â > > > Â Â > Â Â Â > Â Â Â > Â Â Â I just got these real quickly over the > phone form my stressed out GP: > > > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg > testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT take > Arimidex now!) > > > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 changes > a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from the > point where it is now: High in range!) because of other > factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly absorbed > from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear it/how > hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe other > hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe diary > (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much diary > I eat? > > > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in > range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not taking > TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and 2007, I > remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 nmol/l. > So... What's up? > > > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. I > rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just like > that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have weak > ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and also > orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is > definitely optimal right now. > > > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big > MYSTERY............................... And could very well > have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Here is a link from T Nation about how T works in your body read this over a few times you will see what I am talking about. =================================================== The Big T How your lifestyle influences your Testosterone levels — Part 1 by M. Berardi Like it or not (and I'm sure T-mag readers really like it), Testosterone is the hormone of the decade. The granddaddy of the male hormones has gotten more media attention over the last few years than any other hormone around. Heck, I even heard a rumor that some crazy bodybuilding media guys were thinking of naming a magazine after it. Can you imagine that? While Testosterone (the hormone, of course) has been the target of much bad press, I think that if you asked this big dog of hormones what he thought of all of this, he would bark out something to the effect of " What of it? I must be doing something right if they keep talking about me! Now can't you see I'm trying to work this shaved little poodle over here? " Although the popular media has made Testosterone out to be a destructive bad guy, researchers have been slowly but surely embracing its use. Clinical trials have been conducted in diverse groups of individuals from HIV wasting patients and burn victims to people with compromised immunity, along with older men whose " Testosterone " hasn't been up in years. There have even been a number of recent trials investigating the use of Testosterone in healthy weight trained men. So where do I sign up? The results of these investigations have shown that Testosterone is not the demon the medical community once thought it to be and that it actually can be of great benefit to certain individuals and, in certain patients, possesses very few risks. I'm pretty positive though, that the use of Testosterone will never be condoned for use in healthy weight trained males. To this end, us law abiding citizens have to do the best we can with what we've got to work with. So let's talk about how our own body provides us with the big T and what we can do, both naturally and with dietary supplements, to maximize our T levels. When most people think of steroids, they tend only to think of Testosterone. This, my friends, is yet another fact which tends to make me believe that T is the hormone of the decade. Testosterone, however, is only one member of the steroid family. Some of the other steroids in this family include cholesterol, progesterone, the estrogens, cortisol, and aldosterone. Although these molecules are part of the same family and have strikingly similar structures, their functions differ like night and day. This is important to recognize because although the steroids tend to act very differently, they are subject to similar rules with respect to biochemistry and metabolism. For a simplified view of steroid metabolism in the body, you can assume that all steroid hormones begin with cholesterol. From cholesterol, steroid metabolites are formed in various tissues of the body. For example, enzymes in the adrenal glands are responsible for converting cholesterol into cortisol, while enzymes in the gonads are responsible for converting cholesterol to Testosterone. With this simplified view, it's easy to make the mistake of thinking that by simply providing the body with more cholesterol (make that two large fries, please), we can make more Testosterone. This is a mistake because the body has regulatory mechanisms that control hormone production. These regulatory mechanisms, not your bedtime prayers to the iron gods, are what determine which steroid metabolites will ultimately be formed. So the next important questions are, what magic does it take to make Testosterone out of cholesterol (now don't get too excited, you can't do this in your bath tub), what regulates this conversion, and ultimately, what regulates Testosterone production? In order to get the gonads to produce T, the body has a chain of command that must be dealt with just like any smooth running business. In business, the action plan comes down from the CEO to upper management, the plan is solidified and delegated to the production team, and the production team gets the job done. Well, in the body, a portion of the brain called the hypothalamus is the CEO, the pituitary gland is the upper management, and the testes are the production team members. As in business, the buck stops with the CEO/hypothalamus, which is known as a " pulse generator, " because during the day it sends out pulses of hormones that are designed to stimulate other organs. With respect to T, the hypothalamus sends out numerous daily pulses of GNRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone) through the blood stream. These pulses are designed to stimulate the pituitary gland to get to work. The pituitary gland then senses the pulses of GNRH and sends out a work order of its own, consisting of LH (leutinizing hormone) pulses. The LH message travels down to the leydig cells of the testis to stimulate the enzymatic conversion of cholesterol to Testosterone. Cholesterol conversion to T is no easy process and I'm not going to go into all of the details (partly because no one really knows them all). One fact that you should understand, though, is that there's a high level of complexity to this pathway and that there are many enzymes and intermediates that cholesterol has to encounter before forming T. Some of these intermediates include pregnenolone, DHEA, androstenedione, and other well-known androgens. So, although the hypothalamus might be functioning well, the pituitary might be doing the right thing, and the testis are getting the " ball " in motion, ultimately the enzymes in the leydig cells determine whether you're pumping out loads of muscle building T or simply forming other intermediates at the expense of the top dog. As a result of the process I mentioned above, T levels fluctuate wildly. If you were to measure your Testosterone levels throughout the day, you'd likely be amazed. One minute you have the hormonal profile of a hyper-muscular bull ready to " fertilize " an entire herd of cattle? and the next minute your blood profile is that of a fully menstruating Martha intent on color coordinating your powder room. These odd fluctuations occur as a result of the pulsatile nature of hormone secretion. Again, this begins with the hypothalamic pulse generator's release of GNRH. Incidentally, researchers now believe that it is this physiologic pulsatility of Testosterone that makes it anabolic. So if you can mimic this pattern of hormone release, you can stimulate muscle growth. With this hormonal cascade in mind, it's important to realize that each step in the pathway has a regulation point designed to either stimulate or inhibit pulse release. In this respect, the body is a bit of a control freak as it tends to like many control points rather than just one. In this particular case there are three main control points; the hypothalamus, the pituitary, and the testis. With this type of control, the body can maintain the Testosterone homeostasis (a sort of hormonal status quo) and prevent us from any abnormal changes in muscle development and strength. For example, if our Testosterone levels go way up, the body senses this and the hypothalamus and the pituitary produce less GNRH and LH in order to slow down T production. This, of course, is the famous negative feedback. Damn that homeostasis! Now that I'm certain you're all experts in Testosterone production (and there will be a test at the end — I'm serious!), I'd like to address one more important issue that will come up later in the article with regard to Testosterone in the body. When Testosterone is converted from cholesterol in the leydig cells of the testis, it's released into the blood stream where it embarks on an anabolic adventure. However, when in the blood, 60% of the big T released from the boys down below is bound up by a protein known as SHBG, or sex-hormone binding globulin. SHBG is produced and released by the liver. The important point is that the Testosterone bound to SHBG is biologically inactive and this is why there's an important distinction between total T and bioavailable T. Total T represents all the Testosterone in the blood, while bioavailable T represents the non SHBG bound Testosterone. There are other proteins in the blood that bind Testosterone, too, but their binding is rather weak, so this T is bioavailable and these proteins can still enter the cells to produce and effect all the things we're interested in. As I said, bioavailable T represents the Testosterone that is not SHBG bound, while free T represents the Testosterone that's not bound to any blood proteins at all. It's tricky, I know, but I hope that it's now evident that although only about 2% of the T in blood is technically considered free T, there is a larger percentage of T (about 40% or so) that is bioavailable because it's only weakly bound to non SHBG blood proteins. I'm taking you through this complex path for good reason. When trying to increase T levels in the body, one must attempt to not only increase total T. More importantly, one must attempt to increase bioavailable T. If you increase total T, but you increase SHBG to a larger extent, they you will actually have less bioavailable T for muscle building purposes! A great example of this is the use of both thyroid drugs and tamoxifen (nolvadex). Both may increase total T levels in the body, but both also increase SHBG to a large extent. Although you may get a bit of a T surge with each (hurray!), the increase in SHBG may bind up any extra, and actually decrease your bioavailable T (boo!). Well, now that the class is up to speed with our physiology and endocrinology (will someone please wake up Mr. Luoma! — he's always falling asleep during my physiology lectures), we can dive, full force, into how lifestyle factors including things like diet, training, recreational drugs, over the counter medications, altitude, and how psychological mood states influence T levels. There's an abundance of Testosterone literature out there and some of it is applicable for us while some is not, but to a science geek like me who both likes facts and likes being big and lean, it's all interesting nevertheless. Oh wait, I almost forgot! Before we go on, I promised a test didn't I? Settle down! Although there are no actual grades on this test, I hope that you take away a few fundamental things from this article. If you can answer these questions, you're ready to take on next week's article in which I'll review a number of environmental and lifestyle factors that can influence your levels of free T, total T, and bioavailable T. Rest easy, next week's article ties in all that you learned this week and makes some recommendations about how to up the T levels. And next week there won't be a test! Question #1 — True or False Berardi is the most intelligent man on the face of the earth. (I thought I'd start off with an easy one — And the answer of course is " True " ) Question #2 — Short Answer What are the three main organs/glands that regulate T production and what are the big three hormones they release? Question #3 — True or False Testosterone is synthesized directly from cholesterol. Question #4 — Short answer What are the cells that actually produce T and where are they located? Question #5 — Short answer All the Testosterone in the body, bound and unbound is referred to as what? Question #6 — Short answer All the Testosterone that is not bound to SHBG is referred to as what? Question #7 — Short answer All the Testosterone not bound to any blood protein is known as what? Question #8 — True or False If you are interested in the anabolic effects of Testosterone, the optimal situation is to increase total T levels and decrease SHBG. This concludes Part 1 of " The Big T " . Next week, will conclude the article with a review of both interesting and applicable Testosterone research. M Berardi is a former national level competitive bodybuilder and an exercise biochemist at the University of Western Ontario. He can be reached for consultation at JMBMUSCLE@.... Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > > Subject: Latest Testo and E2 results > > > > > > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 1:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > >   > > >    > > >    > > >    I just got these real quickly over the > > > phone form my stressed out GP: > > > > > > > > > > > > Estradiol: 0.13 (0,06 - 0,14 nmol/l) > > > > > > Total Testosterone 18.3 (8,0 - 35,0 nmol/l) > > > > > > > > > > > > (I am on 1 pump 10% compounded T-gel daily; 100 mg > > > testosterone pr 1 gram gel in each pump - I do NOT > take > > > Arimidex now!) > > > > > > > > > > > > So it does look like E2 is a bit highish. Maybe E2 > changes > > > a lil up and down (mostly up, never really down from > the > > > point where it is now: High in range!) because of > other > > > factors like Testosterone Gel not getting evenly > absorbed > > > from my shoulders, depending on how long I smear > it/how > > > hard, etc. from time to time I apply it? And.. Maybe > other > > > hormones are going up and down controlling E2? Maybe > diary > > > (it does in fact!!!) increase E2, depeing on how much > diary > > > I eat? > > > > > > > > > > > > Total T is not impressive. Shouldn't it be high in > > > range!??! This is the same number I get when I am not > taking > > > TRT. And while I optimal on Tyroid between 1997 and > 2007, I > > > remember I got readings for Total T as high as 25 > nmol/l. > > > So... What's up? > > > > > > > > > > > > All I know is: My penis is not working like it should. > I > > > rarely feel desire. It almost never gets hard " just > like > > > that " (except sometimes in the mornings) and I have > weak > > > ejaculate, a lot less volume in the ejaculate and > also > > > orgasms that don't feel so amazing anymore. So TRT is > > > definitely optimal right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you guys do some Arimidex based on these labs? > > > > > > > > > > > > Then we have my stomach issues which are still a big > > > MYSTERY............................... And could very > well > > > have caused a lot of my hormone issues anyway! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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