Re: Will 5g of androgel per day shut down LH?

[Guest guest]

Dale if your Testosterone is low and you need Androgel your dam near shut down

all ready. But it's best to find out why your low before going on TRT. If you

take a low dose of any kind of Testosterone meds in about 10 days your going to

be shut down. How this happens is your brain sees the added Testosterone in

your blood and slows down sending the LH and FSH messages from your Pituitary

that tells your Testis to make more T.

If you doing know why your low it is dam hard to figure out why your low being

on TRT.

The two main things that cause this problem is being Primary meaning your Testis

can't make enough T on labs your Total T is low and your LH and FSH is very high

this is your brain telling your Testis you need more T.

If your Total T is low and your LH and FSH is low with a good Estradiol this is

Secondary it means your Pituitary is not working right not sending the LH and

FSH messages.

There are a lot of things that can make your Testosterone levels low Stress,

Liver Problems, High Iron, High Prolactin, Infection, high Estradiol levels the

list is long.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Will 5g of androgel per day shut down LH?

>

> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

> Will 5g of androgel per day shut down

> LH?

> How will I know this has happened?

> What should I do about it?

>

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[Guest guest]

Phil

I am probably shut down. It's been two weeks.

I am getting results though.

Brain fog is reduced. Energy is up.

Levitra requirements are down to 10mg from 20mg and

this is still improving.

I don't know why I have low T but life was bad and I had to move on this now.

A lot of tests were done before I went on TRT.

The list is below.

Slightly High LDL but the ration of hdl/ldl is OK.

Everything else is normal.

Hematology

WBC 6.0 4.0-10.0 giga/L

RBC 4.49 4.20-5.40 tera/L

Hemoglobin 144 133-165 g/L

Hematocrit 0.42 0.38-0.50

MCV 93 82-98 fl

MCH 32.1 27.5-33.5 pg

MCHC 344 305-365 g/L

RDW 12.6 11.5-14.5 %

Platelet Count 213 150-400 giga/L

Differential

Neutrophils 2.7 2.0-7.5 giga/L

Lymphocytes 2.7 1.0-4.0 giga/L

Monocytes 0.5 0.1-0.8 giga/L

Eosinophils 0.1 0.0-0.7 giga/L

Basophils 0.0 0.0-0.2 giga/L

General Chemistry

Glucose Fasting 5.0 3.3-6.0 mmol/L

Hemoglobin A1C

Hemoglobin A1C 5.6 4.5-6.0 %

Alkaline Phosphatase 58 48-138 U/L

Gamma GT 18 10-58 U/L

ALT 26 <60 U/L

AST 21 <35 U/L

Lipids

Cholesterol A 6.50 2.00-5.19 mmol/L

Fasting?: YES

Lipids

LDL Cholesterol A 4.46 1.50-3.39 mmol/L

HDL Cholesterol 1.63 >0.90 mmol/L

Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.99 <4.9

Triglycerides 0.91 0.45-2.29 mmol/L

Tumour Markers

PSA 0.58 <4.5 ug/L

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> > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > Subject: Will 5g of androgel per day shut down LH?

> >

> > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

> > Will 5g of androgel per day shut down

> > LH?

> > How will I know this has happened?

> > What should I do about it?

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Your labs look good and Chol. comes down on TRT the labs you needed are here at

www.allthingsmale.com read TRT: A Recipe for Success they are listed there and

why. Still your feeling better because the gel is bring up your levels this is

good I pray it keeps up. And being on TRT for life if much better the walking

around feeling like crap all your life. The men you see here are new of real

sick most come here get better and you never hear from them again.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dale <etherial@...>

> Subject: Re: Will 5g of androgel per day shut down LH?

>

> Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 6:42 PM

> Phil

>

> I am probably shut down.  It's been two weeks.

> I am getting results though.

> Brain fog is reduced. Energy is up.

> Levitra requirements are down to 10mg from 20mg and

> this is still improving.

>

>   I don't know why I have low T but life was bad and I

> had to move on this now.

>

> A lot of tests were done before I went on TRT.

> The list is below.

>

>

> Slightly High LDL but the ration of hdl/ldl is OK.

> Everything else is normal.

>

> Hematology

> WBC         6.0 4.0-10.0

> giga/L

> RBC         4.49 4.20-5.40

> tera/L

> Hemoglobin  144 133-165 g/L

> Hematocrit  0.42 0.38-0.50

> MCV         93 82-98 fl

> MCH         32.1 27.5-33.5

> pg

> MCHC        344 305-365 g/L

> RDW         12.6 11.5-14.5 %

> Platelet Count 213 150-400 giga/L

>

> Differential

> Neutrophils 2.7 2.0-7.5 giga/L

> Lymphocytes 2.7 1.0-4.0 giga/L

> Monocytes   0.5 0.1-0.8 giga/L

> Eosinophils 0.1 0.0-0.7 giga/L

> Basophils   0.0 0.0-0.2 giga/L

>

> General Chemistry

> Glucose Fasting 5.0 3.3-6.0 mmol/L

> Hemoglobin A1C

> Hemoglobin A1C  5.6 4.5-6.0 %

>

> Alkaline Phosphatase 58 48-138 U/L

> Gamma GT         

>    18 10-58 U/L

> ALT               

>   26 <60 U/L

> AST               

>   21 <35 U/L

>

> Lipids

> Cholesterol A         6.50

> 2.00-5.19 mmol/L

> Fasting?: YES

> Lipids

> LDL Cholesterol A     4.46 1.50-3.39

> mmol/L

> HDL Cholesterol       1.63

> >0.90 mmol/L

> Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.99 <4.9

>

> Triglycerides         0.91

> 0.45-2.29 mmol/L

> Tumour Markers

> PSA               

>    0.58 <4.5 ug/L

>

>

>

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> >

> > > From: Dale <etherial@...>

> > > Subject: Will 5g of androgel per

> day shut down LH?

> > >

> > > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

> > > Will 5g of androgel per day shut down

> > > LH?

> > > How will I know this has happened?

> > > What should I do about it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil

Down the road I will want to maintain testicle size. I don't think any

doctors around here (Canada West) would give me HCG. I have a cupboard full of

Tongkat Ali. Has anyone successfully used this to maintain testicle size?

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> > > > From: Dale <etherial@>

> > > > Subject: Will 5g of androgel per

> > day shut down LH?

> > > >

> > > > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 10:00 PM

> > > > Will 5g of androgel per day shut down

> > > > LH?

> > > > How will I know this has happened?

> > > > What should I do about it?

> > > >

> > > >

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