Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 All I know are small testicles. I never had normal looking testes. But screw it! I am going to order hcg anyway. RE: Re: Should I take HCG? First let me say not all men end up with higher levels of Estradiol doing HCG. It's about how much your testis can handle. Lets say your Primary and your levels before starting on TRT were 350. Primary means your testis can't make enough Testosterone so you need to find the dose that keeps your testis working but more then this dose or yes it will convert into Estadiol. If your Secondary like me then you can use more when I first went on HCG I was told I am Primary. After Dr. 's helping me with a post to get my Dr. to let me try HCG. I went on 500 IU's 3x's/ day on top of the 150 mgs of Test C shot that I did every week. After doing the 15th. HCG shot we did labs. Now at the time my lab was a loco lab with a top of the range at 1593. My labs come back on the HCG at 1200 they doubled from my last test on just Test C of 600 this told us I am not Primary but I am Secondary. At the time after being on TRT 23 yrs my Testis were the size of small grapes. And with I had an orgasm my sperm was a drop. In time on HCG my testis got bigger back to there normal size and my sperm was normal in size. But in time my Estraadiol levels kept going higher so we started to back off the HCG when I got down to 300 IU's my Testosterone levels fell a lot. So this told us I needed between 350 to 400 IU's to keep my T levels up and hold down my Estradiol levels. Now fast forward to today I don't do a lot of HCG I do Test C shots every 3 [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 It is a scam the supplement Co.'s trying to make money off the people on the HCG diet. Co-Moderator Phil > From: bwilli45409@... <bwilli45409@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:33 AM > Have seen HGC being sold at walgreens > billed as a diet supplement. Does > anyone know if it is the same strength as what you > get medically or if it > will do the same thing?? > > Bob > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Run don't walk from any Dr. that tells you to stop TRT simple as that. Unless he is trying to jump start your body to make it's own Testosterone. And this only works for a very small amount of men. Co-Moderator Phil > From: UU <uu1845@...> > Subject: RE: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:47 AM > Good morning, although this is true, > when I suggested this to my dr, he stated I would have to be > off of Test., for about 3-6 months to get a good result. I > then stated that's a long time to be off of T and cannot do > it. > > Re: Should I take HCG? > > > > > > its not all about size or duration, but how you feel > about one another and total chemistry (how you use it). The > idea of having a big wanker is over rated and some girls you > can bottom out on easily not being donkey don > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Please don't waste your money been done at other forums it is a scam. You can't take HCG in pill forum you need to shoot it. Co-Moderator Phil > From: bwilli45409@... <bwilli45409@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:55 AM > > I am going to purchase a box today....I dont need to loose > the weight, but > want to take it to see if it is the same, I will keep the > group posted on > it > > Bob > > > In a message dated 1/5/2011 9:49:15 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > uu1845@... > writes: > > > > > Hey! I have seen this also at Walgreens, near the glasses. > I thought it > looked oddly strange given our group discussions. Maybe you > can go on the site > and post its link info for others here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: _bwilli45409@..._ > (mailto:bwilli45409@...) > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:33 AM > _ _ > (mailto: ) > > Subject: Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Have seen HGC being sold at walgreens billed as a > diet supplement. Does > anyone know if it is the same strength as what you > get medically or if it > will do the same thing?? > > Bob > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | > Start a New Topic > > [The entire original message is not included] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 HCG can not be metabolised in the body in an oral form as of yet. It must be injected and is only good in mixed form for 21-30 days. There is a pharmacy that is making sublingual HCG, but have not heard of any feedback from it. The stuff you by OTC is total placebo and just making money off of desperate people. > > > From: bwilli45409@... <bwilli45409@...> > > Subject: Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:55 AM > > > > I am going to purchase a box today....I dont need to loose > > the weight, but > > want to take it to see if it is the same, I will keep the > > group posted on > > it > > > > Bob > > > > > > In a message dated 1/5/2011 9:49:15 A.M. Eastern Standard > > Time, > > uu1845@... > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > Hey! I have seen this also at Walgreens, near the glasses. > > I thought it > > looked oddly strange given our group discussions. Maybe you > > can go on the site > > and post its link info for others here. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: _bwilli45409@..._ > > (mailto:bwilli45409@...) > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:33 AM > > _ _ > > (mailto: ) > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > > > Have seen HGC being sold at walgreens billed as a > > diet supplement. Does > > anyone know if it is the same strength as what you > > get medically or if it > > will do the same thing?? > > > > Bob > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | > > Start a New Topic > > > > [The entire original message is not included] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 You do it in conjunction with TRT. He is treating you as if you are taking a steroid cycle. PLease find another DR that is more open minded and not let back in the stone age of mis conception of hormones. > > > > > > I hear you bro. He was back then. Porn is another > > addiction! Wow I am 33 and vowed not to date below 29 > > because I want to see if I can conceive asap also, I > > wouldn't want a young woman to feel trapped, knowing I want > > a baby and she still has her youth. To each his / her own, > > as long as you are happy. > > > > > > Re: Should I take HCG? > > > > > > > > > its not all about size or duration, but how you feel > > about one another and total chemistry (how you use it). The > > idea of having a big wanker is over rated and some girls you > > can bottom out on easily not being donkey don > > > > [The entire original message is not included] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Use men on TRT doing HCG with a Dr. have at times found we could not fill a script for HCG. The HCG diet is so big they are using up all the HCG out there. So we started getting it from over seas from the ADC still us men had a script for it but it was not needed at ADC. Most of the time I come accross a Dr. that will not use HCG them men look for a better Dr. HCG dose help with TRT in a lot of men. Co-Moderator Phil > From: UU <uu1845@...> > Subject: RE: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 11:11 AM > So what's the difference ordering hcg > w/o a script online? If Phil thinks it can help, ill try it. > My fear is a further reduction in sperm. > > Re: Re: Should I take HCG? > > > > Have seen HGC being sold at walgreens billed as a > diet supplement. Does > > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Yes I say try it for a month see how your feel the first time I did a shot. I did it IM into my thigh I got this great feeling of well being like someting was missing and I just fixed it. Some men doing have this feeling yet it gets there testis working again to the best they can and helps keep your levels up in between your shots every week. Go to www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and Dr. 's HCG update. Co-Moderator Phil > From: UU <uu1845@...> > Subject: RE: Re: Should I take HCG? > > Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 11:23 AM > All I know are small testicles. I > never had normal looking testes. But screw it! I am going to > order hcg anyway. > > RE: Re: Should I take HCG? > > > First let me say not all men end up with higher levels of > Estradiol doing HCG. It's about how much your testis can > handle. Lets say your Primary and your levels before > starting on TRT were 350. Primary means your testis can't > make enough Testosterone so you need to find the dose that > keeps your testis working but more then this dose or yes it > will convert into Estadiol. > > If your Secondary like me then you can use more when I > first went on HCG I was told I am Primary. After Dr. 's > helping me with a post to get my Dr. to let me try HCG. I > went on 500 IU's 3x's/ day on top of the 150 mgs of Test C > shot that I did every week. After doing the 15th. HCG shot > we did labs. Now at the time my lab was a loco lab with a > top of the range at 1593. > > My labs come back on the HCG at 1200 they doubled from my > last test on just Test C of 600 this told us I am not > Primary but I am Secondary. At the time after being on TRT > 23 yrs my Testis were the size of small grapes. And with I > had an orgasm my sperm was a drop. > > In time on HCG my testis got bigger back to there normal > size and my sperm was normal in size. > > But in time my Estraadiol levels kept going higher so we > started to back off the HCG when I got down to 300 IU's my > Testosterone levels fell a lot. > > So this told us I needed between 350 to 400 IU's to keep > my T levels up and hold down my Estradiol levels. > > Now fast forward to today I don't do a lot of HCG I do > Test C shots every 3 > > [The entire original message is not included] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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