Re: Great Group and a wealth of information

[Guest guest]

Hi Harvey and Welcome,

Best thing I can tell you is to learn to read your body. I started to keep a

log on how much Arimidex I took and how I felt. I am so good at this now I can

tell when I am going to high or falling to low.

My Dr. lets me adjust my arimidex to how I feel.

I have a copy of a file I made this might help you out.

===================================================

How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

====================================================

Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before

they do this.

Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg "

anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will

compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the

arimidex as compounded into the caps you require.

My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too.

If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask

your pharmacist to do this for you.

If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy

supply the whole lot.

###

A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600

caps at 0.05mg-per-cap.

So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic

anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you

for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box,

even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg)

..

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: HarveyDiddleson <rbrtmagnuson@...>

> Subject: Great Group and a wealth of information

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:11 AM

> This is a great group.  I can't

> tell you how it all comes together here, given the hype in

> the market place, Doctors who either don't know, don't care,

> or are into giving you a script for this or that and sending

> you home.  I have yet to find a Doctor that seems to

> have it all together as for as E2 issues.

>

> Have said that, I am still trying to understand the link

> between Testosterone/Estrogen and libido.  Is it simply

> the balance between the two and the role estrogen plays in

> creating libido?  I know I have had sky high T but E2

> was also sky high and had no libido.  It must very

> difficult to manage a high T level and a sweet spot E2 level

> around 20...

>

> Can anyone help me understand this?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Harvey

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Philip,

I have been a member of this group for the past couple of months and would like

to say that i find it very informative from reading the other men's emails, the

questions and answers and from you.  You Philip are a wealth of knowledge.

I joined this group because back in December of last year I was feeling

sluggish, tired, overweight, low libidio.  Six months before that my doctor

told

me I had low testerone after taking a blood test.  He told me about hormone

replacement but at the time I was nervous and had alot of questions.  He gave

me

a brochure which I read but i wanted to hear from other guys who had the same

issue I was experiencing.  I turned to the internet and found your group.  So

thank you.  I feel that at this group one can express themselves freely and not

be judged because they have low T.  One can be honest and open and every man

here can share their experience with others.

Like I said above I started hormone replacement in January of last year and have

never felt better.  Once in the morning after I shower I apply Androgel. 

About

6 weeks after the first application I felt so much better - increased energy,

not tired, stronger erections.  My blood test came back that my levels were up

however I didn't need to increase to a higher dose.  I currently apply 5mg of

Androgel every morning.  Since the six week check up I have noticed not an

increase of chest hair but that the chest hair on my lower abodmen has gotton

darker, i even started to work out which has help to increase muscle mass,

longer lasting erections. 

My question to you is that you talk about taking Armidex in addition to the

hormone supplement.  I was told by my doctor that Armidex doesn't do

anything. 

Why would you need to take Armidex and Androgel together?  Is Androgel not

enough?

Also question on penis size.  Does taking a hormone supplement such as

Testim/Androgel increase penis size?  Reports/studies say the average penis is

between 5.5 and 6 " .  Some guys have 7 " , 8 " or more.  How or is there a way to

increase the size of your penis both length and girth?  Do vacuum pumps really

help?

One more question - I go for another check-up and bloodwork?  Are there any

questions I should be asking my doctor and what should I be looking for in the

bloodwork?

Keep up the good work and keep sharing your wealth of knowledge and

information.  I am sure all the guys that read this post would agree.  Any guy

who can answer the questions I've asked please jump in and share your

responses. 

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 10:23:26 AM

Subject: Re: Great Group and a wealth of information

 

Hi Harvey and Welcome,

Best thing I can tell you is to learn to read your body. I started to keep a log

on how much Arimidex I took and how I felt. I am so good at this now I can tell

when I am going to high or falling to low.

My Dr. lets me adjust my arimidex to how I feel.

I have a copy of a file I made this might help you out.

===================================================

How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

====================================================

Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before

they do this.

Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg "

anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will

compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the

arimidex as compounded into the caps you require.

My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too.

If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask

your pharmacist to do this for you.

If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy

supply the whole lot.

###

A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600

caps at 0.05mg-per-cap.

So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic

anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you

for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box,

even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg)

..

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: HarveyDiddleson <rbrtmagnuson@...>

> Subject: Great Group and a wealth of information

>

> Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:11 AM

> This is a great group.  I can't

> tell you how it all comes together here, given the hype in

> the market place, Doctors who either don't know, don't care,

> or are into giving you a script for this or that and sending

> you home.  I have yet to find a Doctor that seems to

> have it all together as for as E2 issues.

>

> Have said that, I am still trying to understand the link

> between Testosterone/Estrogen and libido.  Is it simply

> the balance between the two and the role estrogen plays in

> creating libido?  I know I have had sky high T but E2

> was also sky high and had no libido.  It must very

> difficult to manage a high T level and a sweet spot E2 level

> around 20...

>

> Can anyone help me understand this?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Harvey

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

When applying gels if e2 can go up really high in people. We have switched alot

of people to testim because it is less junk you have to apply to your skin. One

can also goto a compounder but again these are not controlled by FDA and may

vary from batch to batch. When adding in the gels one should also add in HCG

after the testosterone levels are 600-900 at peak (2 hours after application

blood is drawn.) When people on topical T we make sure the T levels are stable

for 4 weeks before implemmenting HCG and adex (if needed.

Simple 250 ius HCG every 3 days with gels can make bring back that sense of well

being due to stimulating Lh receptors in the brain and through out the body.

Blood would be taken on the day of injection when HCG is added. If your Dr does

not believe in ADEX then he is not up with the times and needs to be educated

about things.

>

> > From: HarveyDiddleson <rbrtmagnuson@...>

> > Subject: Great Group and a wealth of information

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:11 AM

> > This is a great group.  I can't

> > tell you how it all comes together here, given the hype in

> > the market place, Doctors who either don't know, don't care,

> > or are into giving you a script for this or that and sending

> > you home.  I have yet to find a Doctor that seems to

> > have it all together as for as E2 issues.

> >

> > Have said that, I am still trying to understand the link

> > between Testosterone/Estrogen and libido.  Is it simply

> > the balance between the two and the role estrogen plays in

> > creating libido?  I know I have had sky high T but E2

> > was also sky high and had no libido.  It must very

> > difficult to manage a high T level and a sweet spot E2 level

> > around 20...

> >

> > Can anyone help me understand this?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Harvey

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It's great your doing so good on a lower dose of Androgel. A lot of men do good

on the starting dose.

But you need to keep track of how your feeling this is what counts.

As for Arimidex not all men on TRT need this it is for getting down higher

levels of Estradiol E2 and you need to test this every time you do labs.

One way to tell if your levels are going up is when you feel like crying at a

sad movie, get sore and hard nipples, feel hot and sweat all the time, lose your

night time and morning wood, get ED and lose your libido.

Higher levels of Estradiol can raise your SHBG this higher this goes the more it

binds up your Testosterone so it's not working. Keeping your Estradiol down to

the sweet spot your Free Testosterone levels will being higher and this is what

is working in your body.

No TRT will not make your penis bigger some say pumping will but it can do

damage to your penis if you don't know how to do this. I don't mess with this.

If you see us talking about penis size it's when we find it gets very small in

the soft state. And this happens from higher levels of Estradiol.

Men on TRT need to have labs to see how there levels are doing and one needs to

drink a lot of water before your labs so they come back good.

If you go to Dr. 's site and read TRT: A Recipe for Success and his HCG

update. In this you will see labs you needed before TRT and labs you on TRT.

He puts this out there free for you and your Dr. he is one of the best male

hormone Dr.'s out there.

www.allthingsmale.com

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: HarveyDiddleson <rbrtmagnuson@...>

> > Subject: Great Group and a wealth of

> information

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:11 AM

> > This is a great group.  I can't

> > tell you how it all comes together here, given the

> hype in

> > the market place, Doctors who either don't know, don't

> care,

> > or are into giving you a script for this or that and

> sending

> > you home.  I have yet to find a Doctor that seems to

> > have it all together as for as E2 issues.

> >

> > Have said that, I am still trying to understand the

> link

> > between Testosterone/Estrogen and libido.  Is it

> simply

> > the balance between the two and the role estrogen

> plays in

> > creating libido?  I know I have had sky high T but

> E2

> > was also sky high and had no libido.  It must very

> > difficult to manage a high T level and a sweet spot E2

> level

> > around 20...

> >

> > Can anyone help me understand this?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Harvey

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You can add rage, impatience or just irritation to the list of symptoms...these

are the first to show up in my husband. He finds the E2 symptoms to be very

difficult....He is normally a very calm happy guy.

It is also difficult to separate the high E2 symptoms from the low cortisol

symoptoms sometimes....but the high E2 seems to be more intense.

Judy

[Guest guest]

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Re: Great Group and a wealth of information

You can add rage, impatience or just irritation to the list of symptoms...these

are the first to show up in my husband. He finds the E2 symptoms to be very

difficult....He is normally a very calm happy guy.

It is also difficult to separate the high E2 symptoms from the low cortisol

symoptoms sometimes....but the high E2 seems to be more intense.

Judy

[Guest guest]

Yes I don't feel rage but I do feel agitated.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: zashes11 <zashes11@...>

> Subject: Re: Great Group and a wealth of information

>

> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 2:36 PM

> You can add rage, impatience or just

> irritation to the list of symptoms...these are the first to

> show up in my husband. He finds the E2 symptoms to be very

> difficult....He is normally a very calm happy guy.

>

> It is also difficult to separate the high E2 symptoms from

> the low cortisol symoptoms sometimes....but the high E2

> seems to be more intense.

>

> Judy

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>