Re: Re: Sorry,.......but another thyroid based question.

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And Marc Barb is point on nothing more needs to be said.

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Phil

> >many of my physical symptoms are the opposite of what

> would be expected for hypothyroidism. High blood pressure,

> elevated heart rate, weight loss not gain. Also my body

> temps appear to be totally normal from the 97.8 to 98.2

> range upon awakening to 98.6 or even higher later in the

> day. Sometimes my temp will be in the 99.2 range in the

> afternoon.

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> I think we discussed this before?  When thyroid goes

> low, cortisol also goes low, and adrenaline kicks in to

> compensate for the lack of energy.  This will cause

> high BP, heart rate, and the low cortisol can cause weight

> loss and hypoglycemia.  If you think of being scared to

> death, the adrenaline will kick in and you can get hot and

> sweaty too.

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> > I also occasionally get a slight shaky feeling in my

> hands.

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> This is a hyperthyroid symptom, but both your FT3 and FT4

> are not high enough to attribute to this.  The worst

> case FT3 I've read was someone who tested around 2500, with

> top-of-range 420.  Yours was only in the 200s, if I

> remember correctly?  Does this happen maybe when it's

> been hours from your last meal?  Hypoglycemia will make

> you shaky.

>

> > On the other hand, my skin is dry and thinning mainly

> on my hands, and my hands/feet go from hot to cold at

> different times of the day. My fingers are literally ice

> cold right now as I type. This is something that was totally

> foreign to me a year ago.

>

> Cold hands and feet are a VERY common hypothyroid symptom,

> as is dry skin.  Most women have cold hands and

> feet.  It's been freezing here lately, which isn't

> common, and your thyroid is supposed to kick in and make

> more to keep you warm.  So if it can't, your hypo

> symptoms will increase.

>

> > I guess what I am asking is can you be hypo, but have

> symptoms of being hyper largely, and does this relate to

> what my doc said about my adrenals compensating?

>

> Your doc and I are in agreement and saying the same thing,

> but I think you're reading posts from others who don't

> understand the whole physiology, and you're second guessing

> us.

>

> > I apologize for continuing to ask these questions, but

> I will admit I am a little nervous about starting this T3

> med I just picked up. I have not taken any yet, as I am

> worried it will make my symptoms of the hyper varity even

> worse.

>

> When my thyroid dose was 1/2 grain my BP was 170/100, pulse

> 100, and I looked anorexic.  I had RAI, so this was too

> low a dose.  When I got to 2 grain (4x as much!), my BP

> dropped to about 130/80, pulse went down to 80, and I have

> gained 15 lbs on MORE thyroid! It's completely

> counterintuitive, unless you understand how adrenaline

> works.

>

> > I did not have the antibody tests for Graves

> done,....only Hashi's per Barb and they were negative. Can

> you have Graves, but show what I did on Free/Total T3 and

> RT3?

>

> Yes, theoretically you could have Graves' antibodies, but

> your labs indicate you're in remission, so any symptoms you

> have would not be from Graves', which would push your FT3

> and/or FT4 way over range, with worse case I described

> earlier at 6x over range.

>

> > I am thinking of skipping the T3 med for now, since

> some folks have said that E2 and my 'gut' problems can

> interfere with thyroid conversion.

>

> You really should give the T3 a try, since it's

> low-dose.  Conversion is a problem of T4 converting to

> T3.  For that reason, your doc prescribed T3, which is

> already converted.  Any E2 and gut problems that affect

> conversion are bypassed.  I read multiple forums, and

> there is much misinformation out there, or

> misunderstanding.  People mean well when they give

> advice, but many do not really understand the physiology.

>

> Here's to a healthier new year to all!

>

> Barb

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I am on a low dose of Atenolol 25 mgs a beta-blocker for my heart. It helps

with my heart betting to fast and keeps my BP down. It dose not mess with my

thyroid meds or my CoQ10 levels.

If you keep this up your going to get your self in a high very high level of

stress. I know I see men that are doing what your doing end up like this.

Your Dr. would not tell you to do some things that is bad for you and if what he

gives you does not agree with you you call him he changes it and your try again.

At the rate your going with this worry you going to need Xanax for Anxiety.

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Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Sorry,.......but another thyroid based question.

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> Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:38 PM

> Yes,.....she makes a lot of sense for

> sure.

> I have to try something, as my cardiologist is flipping out

> over my hypertension and mainly my heart rate going high for

> no reason.

>

> I think I said it before, but he wants me to start taking

> Coreg 3.125mg at least once a day to start. This is a

> beta/alpha blocker, and while it is a very low dose, I know

> this can screw things up even further if my problem is

> thyroid related. That is without even mentioning the other

> side effects of beta-blockers.

>

> My new doc says it's OK to take this low dose for now, but

> I am trying to avoid it.

> I see my Cardiologist on the 11th. and he is going to be

> upset that I didn't start it yet. Oh well,.....it's my body

> and life!

>

> Feeling like crap for a year has taken a toll for sure, and

> starting all of these different meds are surely having an

> effect on me as well when it comes to feeling anxious. You

> guys know I hate meds, and am concerned about side-effects

> and also combining all of this stuff.

>

> I have to get over it though, and realize I can't live the

> rest of my life with nothing but one BP med, and Nexium.

> I thank all of you for your replies BTW.

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The T3 is a low dose that will I feel take time to help. Most of the time when

we add to are dose of thyroid meds we need to give it 8 weeks before doing labs

to see the change if any.

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Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Sorry,.......but another thyroid based question.

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> Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 12:57 PM

> Well for what it's worth, I took my

> first dose of T3 this AM about 6:30.

> Waited an hour to eat like they said.

>

> Good news is no allergic reactions, and I didn't notice any

> weird feelings.

>

> Actually I didn't notice anything to be honest! LOL

> Just took the BP,....134/86 and pulse about 84.

>

> How long does it take to tell if this stuff is going to

> have any positive results?

>

> I have to stagger my meds due to my work schedule,....most

> of the time I never know when I will be home, and when I

> won't. I don't like carrying them with me due to the fact my

> vehicle gets quite hot inside a good part of the year here

> in Florida.

>

> Going to start my Arimidex this evening.

> Speaking of which,......Phil if you see this you would

> know.

> Any common side effects with this drug, especially related

> to pulse or BP? I hope not.

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