Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of HCG per day as treatment for secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and don't have access to injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can get easily and cheaply. My question is, when should I test for my T levels? I'm going to be using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it myself. Thus, obviously, I can't exactly afford to keep going back every few weeks for more tests, but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a proper dose and not over doing it or under doing it. So how long should I wait to do the first test? Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have " testosterone, total " and " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 In the past before my Dr. and I figured out I am Secondary Hypopituitary we did an RBC, Total Testosterone, Free Testosterone, Sensitive Estradiol E2 test for men and SHBG. At Quest labs these to labs cover all of them but an RBC and my Dr. has me test every 8 weeks others go as long as 4 months. Estradiol sensitive Code #4021 Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X. If I were you I would not start on HCG only doing this much I would only do 100 IU's each day and work up or down from there. Co-Moderator Phil > From: LostOne0069 <lostone0069@...> > Subject: When to test? > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:58 PM > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of > HCG per day as treatment for > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and don't > have access to > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can get easily > and cheaply. > > My question is, when should I test for my T levels? > I'm going to be > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it myself. > Thus, obviously, I > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few weeks for > more tests, > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a proper dose and > not over > doing it or under doing it. > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have " testosterone, > total " and > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > Thanks! > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 //*Human Chorionic Gonadotropin * It's produced in women during pregnancy and supports the production of progesterone. In MEN, it acts as luteinizing hormone// which, in men, tells the testicles to produce Testosterone. The LH is normally produced by the pituitary gland, but in people with secondary hypogonadism, (like me) for some reason it doesn't get produced, so even though there's nothing wrong with my testicles, I don't produce Testosterone. Thus HCG to try and get it moving again. On 2/21/2010 3:29 PM, Harry B. wrote: > > What's HCG ? > > Harry B. > New York > > When to test? > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of HCG per day as treatment for > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and don't have access to > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can get easily and cheaply. > > My question is, when should I test for my T levels? I'm going to be > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it myself. Thus, obviously, I > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few weeks for more tests, > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a proper dose and not over > doing it or under doing it. > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have " testosterone, total " and > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Well, thank you for your input, however, as I mentioned, I have to pay for these myself, so testing every 4 weeks is not going to happen. Also, I will of course want to do many of the other tests as I can later... but right now, I cannot afford them. Right now, I can afford a testosterone test to see what, if anything, the HCG is doing for me. Back to my original question: How long after first starting HCG monotherapy should I wait to get my first Testosterone test and what is the difference between a " total T " test and a " serum T " test? Thanks! On 2/21/2010 3:23 PM, philip georgian wrote: > > In the past before my Dr. and I figured out I am Secondary > Hypopituitary we did an RBC, Total Testosterone, Free Testosterone, > Sensitive Estradiol E2 test for men and SHBG. At Quest labs these to > labs cover all of them but an RBC and my Dr. has me test every 8 weeks > others go as long as 4 months. > Estradiol sensitive Code #4021 > > Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X. > > If I were you I would not start on HCG only doing this much I would > only do 100 IU's each day and work up or down from there. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > From: LostOne0069 <lostone0069@... > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net>> > > Subject: When to test? > > > <mailto: %40> > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:58 PM > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of > > HCG per day as treatment for > > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and don't > > have access to > > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can get easily > > and cheaply. > > > > My question is, when should I test for my T levels? > > I'm going to be > > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it myself. > > Thus, obviously, I > > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few weeks for > > more tests, > > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a proper dose and > > not over > > doing it or under doing it. > > > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have " testosterone, > > total " and > > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 If you go to Dr. 's site and Reat TRT: A Recipe for Success and His HCG update you will see why he use's HCG for his men that have low testosterone. www.allthingsmale.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chorionic_gonadotropin Co-Moderator Phil > From: Harry B. <HGBeck@...> > Subject: Re: When to test? > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 3:29 PM > What's HCG ? > > Harry B. > New York > > > > When to test? > > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of HCG per day as > treatment for > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and don't > have access to > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can get easily > and cheaply. > > My question is, when should I test for my T levels? > I'm going to be > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it myself. > Thus, obviously, I > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few weeks for > more tests, > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a proper dose and > not over > doing it or under doing it. > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have " testosterone, > total " and > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > Thanks! > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I guess you miss read me I do labs every 8 weeks not every 4 and most men do labs every 4 months. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: LostOne0069 <lostone0069@... > > > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net>> > > > Subject: When to test? > > > > > > <mailto: %40> > > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:58 PM > > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of > > > HCG per day as treatment for > > > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and > don't > > > have access to > > > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can > get easily > > > and cheaply. > > > > > > My question is, when should I test for my T > levels? > > > I'm going to be > > > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it > myself. > > > Thus, obviously, I > > > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few > weeks for > > > more tests, > > > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a > proper dose and > > > not over > > > doing it or under doing it. > > > > > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > > > > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have > " testosterone, > > > total " and > > > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 No, I understood... I just still am trying to find the answer to my question. I do appreciate the information you gave me though. Thank you. On 2/21/2010 4:01 PM, philip georgian wrote: > > I guess you miss read me I do labs every 8 weeks not every 4 and most > men do labs every 4 months. > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > > > > > From: LostOne0069 <lostone0069@... > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net> > > > > > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net>> > > > > Subject: When to test? > > > > > <mailto: %40> > > > > > <mailto: %40> > > > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:58 PM > > > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of > > > > HCG per day as treatment for > > > > secondary hypogonadism. I am self treating and > > don't > > > > have access to > > > > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg which I can > > get easily > > > > and cheaply. > > > > > > > > My question is, when should I test for my T > > levels? > > > > I'm going to be > > > > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying for it > > myself. > > > > Thus, obviously, I > > > > can't exactly afford to keep going back every few > > weeks for > > > > more tests, > > > > but I also want to be sure that I'm doing a > > proper dose and > > > > not over > > > > doing it or under doing it. > > > > > > > > So how long should I wait to do the first test? > > > > > > > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they have > > " testosterone, > > > > total " and > > > > " testosterone, serum " what's the difference? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 It this helps you any I was on HCG added to my T shots did 15 shots before doing labs but I was only doing HCG 3x's a week. It can take some time to get your testis going again only way to tell is by how your feeling. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > From: LostOne0069 <lostone0069@... > > > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net> > > > > > > > > <mailto:lostone0069%40bethezero.net>> > > > > > Subject: When to test? > > > > > > > > <mailto: %40> > > > > > > > > <mailto: %40> > > > > > Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 2:58 > PM > > > > > OK, so I just started doing 250 IU of > > > > > HCG per day as treatment for > > > > > secondary hypogonadism. I am self > treating and > > > don't > > > > > have access to > > > > > injectable T so I am using ONLY hcg > which I can > > > get easily > > > > > and cheaply. > > > > > > > > > > My question is, when should I test for > my T > > > levels? > > > > > I'm going to be > > > > > using the " privatemdlabs " and paying > for it > > > myself. > > > > > Thus, obviously, I > > > > > can't exactly afford to keep going back > every few > > > weeks for > > > > > more tests, > > > > > but I also want to be sure that I'm > doing a > > > proper dose and > > > > > not over > > > > > doing it or under doing it. > > > > > > > > > > So how long should I wait to do the > first test? > > > > > > > > > > Oh, and in looking at their tests, they > have > > > " testosterone, > > > > > total " and > > > > > " testosterone, serum " what's the > difference? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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