Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

[Guest guest]

Injections of testosterone cypionate are really dirt cheap, because they can't

be patented.

Even with no insurance, a 10 mL vial is just over $100.00.

That's typically a 20 week supply. Syringes can be bought for around $20 for

100.

Randy Hoops

Springfield, MO

>

> I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and starting

this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone else that

is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll cover

Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization showing

that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking the

Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from that

far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

>

> I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex drive,

though I also haven't been as irritable.

>

[Guest guest]

Test cypionate is $89 cash at walmart and syringes are ten cents. I started with

gel and ins jacked me around so I went to injections...best thing that could

have happened.

>

> I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and starting

this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone else that

is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll cover

Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization showing

that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking the

Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from that

far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

>

> I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex drive,

though I also haven't been as irritable.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi matt,

I have the same problem been on TRT at the time 28 yrs I was lucky I keep a copy

of all my labs so I was able to show them an old lab. I was sent to see an Endo

and he took me off TRT my levels went down to 75. Do you work for the Big 3

Auto Co.'s I found out it the Co. I worked for. I am retired from Chry. an

Union Eng. I even called my benefits rep he was a big help with this. Medco the

Drug Co. I get my drugs from wanted me to go off TRT and do labs to prove to

them I am low.

I even talked to a Lawyer about taking them to court over this. Don't go off

TRT to prove this to them you will crash and get dam sick. And it takes a long

time to get your levels back up.

If you don't what to do shots have your Dr. Call

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

They will compound your Test gel for you the cost is about the same as doing

shots.

If the Dr. you see did your first set of labs and can't find you old labs make

it his problem. I am sure if he calls them he can get around this.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mattjtorres <no_reply >

> Subject: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 4:47 PM

> I've been on Testim for about 4 years

> now due to low testosterone and starting this month my

> insurance company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone

> else that is taking Testim running into this problem? 

> I don't know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm

> also having to now submit a prior authorization showing that

> my levels were below the normal range when I first started

> taking the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding

> the medical records from that far back.  My total level

> was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

>

> I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a

> drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been as

> irritable. 

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil, I'm actually on my wife's insurance, though she doesn't work for

one of the the Big 3. I am going to meet with my doctor next week and decide

what the best route to take is if we can't find the old labs. The insurance co.

is pretty steadfast about denying without the labs.

What are the downsides to shots? I've been out of my prescription for a week

now and can definitely feel a decrease in energy.

>

> > From: mattjtorres <no_reply >

> > Subject: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 4:47 PM

> > I've been on Testim for about 4 years

> > now due to low testosterone and starting this month my

> > insurance company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone

> > else that is taking Testim running into this problem? 

> > I don't know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm

> > also having to now submit a prior authorization showing that

> > my levels were below the normal range when I first started

> > taking the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding

> > the medical records from that far back.  My total level

> > was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> >

> > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a

> > drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been as

> > irritable. 

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Get a script from your Dr. if you want to do shots go to his office and get one

so you don't crash and have him show you how to do them your self. I use a 27g

1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle and shoot into my thigh been doing this for yrs. I oil

comes out of the vial slow so I just pull the plunger all the way down and hold

it until I get my dose it takes a few min.'s and when you shoot it is slow and

should be.

Here is a link and also read the info page.

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mattjtorres <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 12:09 PM

> Thanks Phil, I'm actually on my

> wife's insurance, though she doesn't work for one of the the

> Big 3.  I am going to meet with my doctor next week and

> decide what the best route to take is if we can't find the

> old labs.  The insurance co. is pretty steadfast about

> denying without the labs. 

> What are the downsides to shots?  I've been out of my

> prescription for a week now and can definitely feel a

> decrease in energy.

>

>

> >

> > > From: mattjtorres <no_reply >

> > > Subject: Insurance companies not

> paying for Testim anymore

> > >

> > > Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 4:47 PM

> > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years

> > > now due to low testosterone and starting this

> month my

> > > insurance company no longer pays for Testim.  Is

> anyone

> > > else that is taking Testim running into this

> problem? 

> > > I don't know if they'll cover Androgel or not. 

> I'm

> > > also having to now submit a prior authorization

> showing that

> > > my levels were below the normal range when I

> first started

> > > taking the Testim, and my provider is having

> trouble finding

> > > the medical records from that far back.  My

> total level

> > > was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > >

> > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have

> noticed a

> > > drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been as

> > > irritable. 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Not sure why so many guys are concerned that their insurance won't pay for

testosterone.A shot is less than what you pay for a fast food meal.4-5 dollars a

week isn't a bad deal.

> >

> > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and

starting this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone

else that is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll

cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization

showing that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking

the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from

that far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> >

> > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex

drive, though I also haven't been as irritable.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Phil that is not the point every if you get your health care through work your

still paying for it. And it's the Idea your not getting what your paying for.

They start with small things and when they get away with it they go on to bigger

things.

When I was told I had to prove by labs to them I have low T. I called them they

had the nerve to tell me to stop the TRT and do labs. I asked to talk to a

supper he told me his hands are tied. And yes he feels it is crazy to tell

someone to come off meds to prove your sick. It like telling some one with high

sugar to stop there meds to prove they are high. You can kill some one doing

this crap.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: phil <phildude43@...>

> Subject: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:41 PM

> Not sure why so many guys are

> concerned that their insurance won't pay for testosterone.A

> shot is less than what you pay for a fast food meal.4-5

> dollars a week isn't a bad deal.

>

>

> > >

> > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to

> low testosterone and starting this month my insurance

> company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone else that

> is taking Testim running into this problem?  I don't

> know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm also having

> to now submit a prior authorization showing that my levels

> were below the normal range when I first started taking the

> Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the

> medical records from that far back.  My total level was

> around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > >

> > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have

> noticed a drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been as

> irritable.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just now got my refill prescription for Test Cypionate at Costco. The 10ml

bottle is for 10 weeks and cost $50.48. Insurance doesn't cover it but at

$5/week it really doesn't matter.

I self inject and have no desire/need to go back to gels and creams. I get my

blood work done from time to time to keep an eye on T, estrogen, hematocrit and

cholesterol, etc. levels. No problems here w this program! W

> > >

> > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and

starting this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone

else that is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll

cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization

showing that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking

the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from

that far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > >

> > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex

drive, though I also haven't been as irritable.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Very good price. I may start this.

I have a question, when talking about insurance coverage, does anyone have to go

through Prior Authorization, before receiving a tier 3 drug?

This became a hassle everytime I went to fill a script for Test cypo. The

pharmacy would tell me to have my docs office call my insurance and then I had

to follow up with the docs office to see if they called! HASSLE

I would pay something like 50 dollars every 2 months for Test to avoid this

hasstle. With hcg so cheap including bacwater and syringles and DIM (I brought

them, but now will swallow once a night), I may can get a handle over my primary

hypo for under $100 per 2 - 3 months. Its still a lot, but if I cannot make the

Prior Authorization process easier, I may have to go this route.

Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

I just now got my refill prescription for Test Cypionate at Costco. The 10ml

bottle is for 10 weeks and cost $50.48. Insurance doesn't cover it but at

$5/week it really doesn't matter.

I self inject and have no desire/need to go back to gels and creams. I get my

blood work done from time to time to keep an eye on T, estrogen, hematocrit and

cholesterol, etc. levels. No problems here w this program! W

> > >

> > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and

starting this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone

else that is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll

cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now subm

[The entire original message is not included]

[Guest guest]

yep I've been on Testim for 4 yeaars and Aetna suddenly jacked my copay up to

$60 and my Dr has to call them with a special pre-auth everytime. Getting him to

do that sometimes can take a week, so he just switched me to Androgel. I wonder

why Androgel is so much cheaper than Testim?

> > >

> > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and

starting this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone

else that is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll

cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization

showing that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking

the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from

that far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > >

> > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex

drive, though I also haven't been as irritable.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What size shot do you do 200 mgs per week most it will last them 19 weeks if

it's 200 mgs/ml.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: wjj1234 <wjj1234@...>

> Subject: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 4:20 PM

> I just now got my refill prescription

> for Test Cypionate at Costco. The 10ml bottle is for 10

> weeks and cost $50.48. Insurance doesn't cover it but at

> $5/week it really doesn't matter. 

>

> I self inject and have no desire/need to go back to gels

> and creams.  I get my blood work done from time to time

> to keep an eye on T, estrogen, hematocrit and cholesterol,

> etc. levels. No problems here w this program!  W

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now

> due to low testosterone and starting this month my insurance

> company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone else that

> is taking Testim running into this problem?  I don't

> know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm also having

> to now submit a prior authorization showing that my levels

> were below the normal range when I first started taking the

> Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the

> medical records from that far back.  My total level was

> around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > > >

> > > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and

> have noticed a drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been

> as irritable.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think it's only the mail order Drug Care plans doing this Medco and Caremark.

Plus the 10 ml vial he got if it's 200 mgs./ml it will last doing 100 mgs /

weeks 19 weeks. I don't feel anyone needs to do 200 mgs / week.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: uu1845@... <uu1845@...>

> Subject: RE: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim

anymore

>

> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 10:17 PM

> Very good price. I may start this.

>

> I have a question, when talking about insurance coverage,

> does anyone have to go through Prior Authorization, before

> receiving a tier 3 drug?

>

> This became a hassle everytime I went to fill a script for

> Test cypo. The pharmacy would tell me to have my docs office

> call my insurance and then I had to follow up with the docs

> office to see if they called! HASSLE

>

> I would pay something like 50 dollars every 2 months for

> Test to avoid this hasstle. With hcg so cheap including

> bacwater and syringles and DIM (I brought them, but now will

> swallow once a night), I may can get a handle over my

> primary hypo for under $100 per 2 - 3 months. Its still a

> lot, but if I cannot make the Prior Authorization process

> easier, I may have to go this route.

>

> Re: Insurance companies not paying

> for Testim anymore

>

>

> I just now got my refill prescription for Test Cypionate at

> Costco. The 10ml bottle is for 10 weeks and cost $50.48.

> Insurance doesn't cover it but at $5/week it really doesn't

> matter.

>

> I self inject and have no desire/need to go back to gels

> and creams. I get my blood work done from time to time to

> keep an eye on T, estrogen, hematocrit and cholesterol, etc.

> levels. No problems here w this program! W

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now

> due to low testosterone and starting this month my insurance

> company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone else that is

> taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if

> they'll cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now subm

>

> [The entire original message is not included]

>

>

[Guest guest]

When Testim came out it was cheaper then Androgel and I think it still is.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: volusia40 <volusia40@...>

> Subject: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 5:27 AM

> yep I've been on Testim for 4 yeaars

> and Aetna suddenly jacked my copay up to $60 and my Dr has

> to call them with a special pre-auth everytime. Getting him

> to do that sometimes can take a week, so he just switched me

> to Androgel. I wonder why Androgel is so much cheaper than

> Testim?

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now

> due to low testosterone and starting this month my insurance

> company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone else that

> is taking Testim running into this problem?  I don't

> know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm also having

> to now submit a prior authorization showing that my levels

> were below the normal range when I first started taking the

> Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the

> medical records from that far back.  My total level was

> around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > > >

> > > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and

> have noticed a drop in sex drive, though I also haven't been

> as irritable.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I was on Testim, I asked the pharmacists at Walgreens how much their cash

price was (I knew my insurance was changing)

His answer: $600!

That's for 2 tubes / day.

They must have a hell of a marketing team, because, IMO, the product isn't that

good. Docs prescribe this stuff right off because most of them think we're too

stupid to know how to work a syringe.

> > > >

> > > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years now due to low testosterone and

starting this month my insurance company no longer pays for Testim. Is anyone

else that is taking Testim running into this problem? I don't know if they'll

cover Androgel or not. I'm also having to now submit a prior authorization

showing that my levels were below the normal range when I first started taking

the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding the medical records from

that far back. My total level was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > > >

> > > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days and have noticed a drop in sex

drive, though I also haven't been as irritable.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You can get compounded test cream or gel for about the same price as Test C

shots.

This link is one of the best I used there cream for yrs until the patch came out

and my BCBS would not cover the cost anymore.

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/menshealth/andropause.asp

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Insurance companies not paying for Testim anymore

>

> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 11:51 AM

> When I was on Testim, I asked the

> pharmacists at Walgreens how much their cash price was (I

> knew my insurance was changing)

> His answer:  $600!

> That's for 2 tubes / day.

>

> They must have a hell of a marketing team, because, IMO,

> the product isn't that good.  Docs prescribe this stuff

> right off because most of them think we're too stupid to

> know how to work a syringe.

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been on Testim for about 4 years

> now due to low testosterone and starting this month my

> insurance company no longer pays for Testim.  Is anyone

> else that is taking Testim running into this problem? 

> I don't know if they'll cover Androgel or not.  I'm

> also having to now submit a prior authorization showing that

> my levels were below the normal range when I first started

> taking the Testim, and my provider is having trouble finding

> the medical records from that far back.  My total level

> was around 100 when I was first tested in 2007.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been off the Testim now for 5 days

> and have noticed a drop in sex drive, though I also haven't

> been as irritable.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>