Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Make sure your whey protein shakes don't have SOY in them SOY is no good for men. It has a Estrogen marker in it that dose not work but will make your body and brain think your levels are very high. This can move up your levels of SHBG and your Free Testosterone levels will fall very low high SHBG binds up Free T levels. On my good days I go to the Old Person's Club in town and I get to use there weight room for $2 / day I got there 3x's a week and work out. But it's been about 3 months now that I have not done this every week. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Re: Unfamiliar territory > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 3:17 PM > Oh yeah, there is no way I could do > it if I were fatigued! But once you get back to your ole > self, and who knows, being on the HGH, you might feel even > better than you had before. You will be able to do > exercises. I am so glad that I decided to do something, when > I hit 230. I am only 5'11 " , so I was pretty overweight. Down > to 203 now. I had never been able to get past 208 in the > past, so I feel like I am going to achieve my goal of 190 > this time. The biggest key for me was to start eating > properly. Cut out sugars, potato chips, soda's, and junk all > together. I drink a lot of whey protein shakes too. Check > out the video on this web page. This guy is an inspiration. > He is a year older than me. > > http://www.marksdailyapple.com/how-to-proper-plank-technique/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all gets > better with me > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the morning. I > push > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit here and > wait. > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels they are low > in the > > > morning because about an hour after I eat I feel > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at times but > I love > > > her. > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Thanks, I'll be sure to check this out. I use the stuff made by Body Fortress sold by Walmart. I just looked at the ingredients, and sure enough, it has this in it, Soy Lecithin. Damned, maybe this is why I haven't been feeling the hcg???? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all gets > > better with me > > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the morning. I > > push > > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit here and > > wait. > > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels they are low > > in the > > > > morning because about an hour after I eat I feel > > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at times but > > I love > > > > her. > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Yep soy is no good for men and just think about this women feed there boys soy milk. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ed <edhill_2006@...> > Subject: Re: Unfamiliar territory > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 4:25 PM > > Thanks, I'll be sure to check this out. I use the stuff > made by Body Fortress sold by Walmart. I just looked at the > ingredients, and sure enough, it has this in it, Soy > Lecithin. Damned, maybe this is why I haven't been feeling > the hcg???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all > gets > > > better with me > > > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the > morning. I > > > push > > > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit > here and > > > wait. > > > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels > they are low > > > in the > > > > > morning because about an hour after I > eat I feel > > > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at > times but > > > I love > > > > > her. > > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 This is the one I have been using; mainly because I am lactose intolerant and this one is very low in lactose. It tastes great too. I believe it comes in 2 other flavors: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp;jsessionid=2UZC5AOBD\ 1HX4CQUC4YFAGIKCQL00UNE?id=XN-1004 Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all gets > > > better with me > > > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the morning. I > > > push > > > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit here and > > > wait. > > > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels they are low > > > in the > > > > > morning because about an hour after I eat I feel > > > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at times but > > > I love > > > > > her. > > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Funny you mention this, because I just came from the vitamin shoppe, and I mentioned to the young guy there I was looking for a whey product that didn't have soy in it. He told me that most of them did, but said that it was such a small amount, and that it wouldn't have any negative effects. He said that the manufacturer has to put it on the label for people that are allergic to it. Could be BS. But I saw that brand you mentioned. Does this have any soy in it?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all gets > > > > better with me > > > > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the morning. I > > > > push > > > > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit here and > > > > wait. > > > > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels they are low > > > > in the > > > > > > morning because about an hour after I eat I feel > > > > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at times but > > > > I love > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 If you go to the link i sent you, it will show you the list of ingredients. Soy is not listed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Mike but I hope it all gets > > > > > better with me > > > > > > > lately it's feeling like crap in the morning. I > > > > > push > > > > > > > my self to eat and clean up then I sit here and > > > > > wait. > > > > > > > I feel with me it's my sugar levels they are low > > > > > in the > > > > > > > morning because about an hour after I eat I feel > > > > > > > better. Yes my wife if a bit much at times but > > > > > I love > > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Hey Phil, I hope you are feeling a bit better. I know it sucks to feel bad all the time! Well, the vitamin regimin is helping. It is actually not a monumentous task to stay awake after meals now. It is still a struggle at times...okay...most of the time, but I find it is overcome by getting up and moving around a bit. I think it helps that I changed my hours at work too, so I'm getting an hour more sleep a day. I'm still not " there " , and it still doesn't last all day, I still wake up at night (usually in a sweat) every couple of hours, but overall I am feeling better. I am hopeful that just continuing on a vitamin regimin will help me to get through this and as long as it doesn't get worse, I guess I can live with the status quo. Hopefully someday Medical Science as a whole will understand that men need hormone " stabilization " just like women do! I don't really like the term Hormone replacement. All that is happening is to stabilize the body to what it should be. No-one is asking for more than should be. Maybe someday that will be understood by the medical community at large! I wonder what drives this prejudice? Is it the predominance of males in the medical field and them not wanting to admit that men need help too? Search me. Heck, I must be feeling better, I'm waxing philosophical! Have a better tomorrow than today was. Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mjbearit > > <mjbearit@> > > > > > > > > Subject: > > Unfamiliar > > > > territory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, August 14, > > 2010, 7:08 > > > > PM > > > > > > > > Long story short, I've felt > > like crap > > > > > > > > for a couple years now. Sex > > is not > > > > even of > > > > > > interest > > > > > > > > and isn't happening when I > > " give in " . > > > > Memory is > > > > > > shot, > > > > > > > > sleep after every meal > > regardless of > > > > diet (I can > > > > > > stay awake, > > > > > > > > but it is a monumental > > task!), cannot > > > > focus, > > > > > > sleep sucks, > > > > > > > > I'm an empotional wreck and > > the list > > > > goes on. A > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > of weeks ago I noticed that > > my left > > > > testicle, > > > > > > which has > > > > > > > > always been my big one, has > > gone from > > > > slightly > > > > > > smaller than > > > > > > > > a golfball to half that > > size. It is > > > > now the > > > > > > size of a > > > > > > > > marble. I contacted the doc > > and told > > > > him I > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > tests run. I am however > > very confused > > > > by the > > > > > > sheer > > > > > > > > number of various numbers out > > there and > > > > nothing > > > > > > that really > > > > > > > > explains everything. The > > doc had the > > > > labs do > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > urine and blood and I ended > > up with > > > > Albumin, > > > > > > Microalbumin UR > > > > > > > > QN, total testosterone, SHBG, > > Total > > > > Protein, > > > > > > Globulin, > > > > > > > > Creatine urine, > > > > Microalbumin/Creatine. The > > > > > > total test > > > > > > > > is withing the labs " normal " > > range, > > > > which I > > > > > > relize does not > > > > > > > > mean anything, and I found a > > calculator > > > > to get > > > > > > the Free > > > > > > > > Testosterone and > > BioAvailable > > > > Testosterone. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > problem is there is too much > > data (at > > > > least in my > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > state of mind) that I can't > > find what > > > > all these > > > > > > numbers mean > > > > > > > > when put together. Those > > tests just > > > > posted on > > > > > > Saturday > > > > > > > > (today) so I don't expect to > > hear from > > > > my doc > > > > > > until Monday > > > > > > > > or later in the week. > > However, I like > > > > to have > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > external sources so I can > > understand or > > > > call > > > > > > " FOUL " if > > > > > > > > warranted. Can someone > > point me to a > > > > website > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > a more complete picture with > > numbers > > > > and what > > > > > > they mean and > > > > > > > > how they interact? As an > > example, my > > > > Creatine > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > has gone from 120something to > > 58 over > > > > the past 2 > > > > > > years, but > > > > > > > > what does that mean? How > > does that > > > > play into > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > whole thing? And my total > > test may be > > > > within > > > > > > > > acceptable but my SBGH is > > well over the > > > > labs > > > > > > limits. > > > > > > > > How does that play? And I > > find no > > > > reference to > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > " Normal " is for Free Test! > > I know I'm > > > > probably > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > myself crazy over this, but I > > figure > > > > some of the > > > > > > folks here > > > > > > > > may be able to point me to a > > good > > > > information > > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > Disclaimer, I know nobody > > here is a > > > > doctor > > > > > > (probably) and I > > > > > > > > know to see my physician, > > etc. I'm > > > > just trying > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > educate myself. If I don't > > learn > > > > about my > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > trust the doctors, I deserve > > whatever > > > > outcome I > > > > > > get! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Well it sounds like it's working taking Vit. and Supplements it takes time to work good. I am having a better morning today so it gets better everyday. Yesterday I felt like crap and later in the afternoon I took a little extra Arimidex and I felt better so my Estradiol was on the higher side. Some times it's hard to tell later in the day my hands were swelling up high Estradiol makes me hold water big time. It's all good this morning. My wife was up north with the Grand Kids and she got back last night. We had some dam bad storms yesterday about 7:30pm here in Michigan Tress were down power is out and she was on the road driving through it. So there I sat watching all these warnings on TV praying she gets home safe. Co-Moderator Phil > From: mjbearit <mjbearit@...> > Subject: Re: Unfamiliar territory > > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:21 PM > Hey Phil, > I hope you are feeling a bit better. I know it sucks > to feel bad all the time! > Well, the vitamin regimin is helping. It is actually > not a monumentous task to stay awake after meals now. > It is still a struggle at times...okay...most of the time, > but I find it is overcome by getting up and moving around a > bit. I think it helps that I changed my hours at work > too, so I'm getting an hour more sleep a day. I'm > still not " there " , and it still doesn't last all day, I > still wake up at night (usually in a sweat) every couple of > hours, but overall I am feeling better. I am hopeful > that just continuing on a vitamin regimin will help me to > get through this and as long as it doesn't get worse, I > guess I can live with the status quo. Hopefully > someday Medical Science as a whole will understand that men > need hormone " stabilization " just like women do! I > don't really like the term Hormone replacement. All > that is happening is to stabilize the body to what it should > be. No-one is asking for more than should be. > Maybe someday that will be understood by the medical > community at large! I wonder what drives this > prejudice? Is it the predominance of males in the > medical field and them not wanting to admit that men need > help too? Search me. Heck, I must be feeling > better, I'm waxing philosophical! Have a better > tomorrow than today was. > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mjbearit > > > <mjbearit@> > > > > > > > > > Subject: > > > > Unfamiliar > > > > > territory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, > August 14, > > > 2010, 7:08 > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > Long story short, > I've felt > > > like crap > > > > > > > > > for a couple years > now. Sex > > > is not > > > > > even of > > > > > > > interest > > > > > > > > > and isn't happening > when I > > > " give in " . > > > > > Memory is > > > > > > > shot, > > > > > > > > > sleep after every > meal > > > regardless of > > > > > diet (I can > > > > > > > stay awake, > > > > > > > > > but it is a > monumental > > > task!), cannot > > > > > focus, > > > > > > > sleep sucks, > > > > > > > > > I'm an empotional > wreck and > > > the list > > > > > goes on. A > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > of weeks ago I > noticed that > > > my left > > > > > testicle, > > > > > > > which has > > > > > > > > > always been my big > one, has > > > gone from > > > > > slightly > > > > > > > smaller than > > > > > > > > > a golfball to half > that > > > size. It is > > > > > now the > > > > > > > size of a > > > > > > > > > marble. I > contacted the doc > > > and told > > > > > him I > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > tests run. I am > however > > > very confused > > > > > by the > > > > > > > sheer > > > > > > > > > number of various > numbers out > > > there and > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > that really > > > > > > > > > explains > everything. The > > > doc had the > > > > > labs do > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > urine and blood and > I ended > > > up with > > > > > Albumin, > > > > > > > Microalbumin UR > > > > > > > > > QN, total > testosterone, SHBG, > > > Total > > > > > Protein, > > > > > > > Globulin, > > > > > > > > > Creatine urine, > > > > > Microalbumin/Creatine. The > > > > > > > total test > > > > > > > > > is withing the labs > " normal " > > > range, > > > > > which I > > > > > > > relize does not > > > > > > > > > mean anything, and > I found a > > > calculator > > > > > to get > > > > > > > the Free > > > > > > > > > Testosterone and > > > BioAvailable > > > > > Testosterone. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > problem is there is > too much > > > data (at > > > > > least in my > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > state of mind) that > I can't > > > find what > > > > > all these > > > > > > > numbers mean > > > > > > > > > when put > together. Those > > > tests just > > > > > posted on > > > > > > > Saturday > > > > > > > > > (today) so I don't > expect to > > > hear from > > > > > my doc > > > > > > > until Monday > > > > > > > > > or later in the > week. > > > However, I like > > > > > to have > > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > > external sources so > I can > > > understand or > > > > > call > > > > > > > " FOUL " if > > > > > > > > > warranted. Can > someone > > > point me to a > > > > > website > > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > > a more complete > picture with > > > numbers > > > > > and what > > > > > > > they mean and > > > > > > > > > how they > interact? As an > > > example, my > > > > > Creatine > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > has gone from > 120something to > > > 58 over > > > > > the past 2 > > > > > > > years, but > > > > > > > > > what does that > mean? How > > > does that > > > > > play into > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > whole thing? And > my total > > > test may be > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > acceptable but my > SBGH is > > > well over the > > > > > labs > > > > > > > limits. > > > > > > > > > How does that > play? And I > > > find no > > > > > reference to > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > " Normal " is for > Free Test! > > > I know I'm > > > > > probably > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > myself crazy over > this, but I > > > figure > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > folks here > > > > > > > > > may be able to > point me to a > > > good > > > > > information > > > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer, I know > nobody > > > here is a > > > > > doctor > > > > > > > (probably) and I > > > > > > > > > know to see my > physician, > > > etc. I'm > > > > > just trying > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > educate myself. > If I don't > > > learn > > > > > about my > > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > trust the doctors, > I deserve > > > whatever > > > > > outcome I > > > > > > > get! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Well if what I am doing with vitamin therapy was in question before, today just answered that. I forgot to take my vitamins to work today. Bad day. Hopefully once I am doing this for a few months, I can have the occasional day and not suffer for it. Interesting side note though. I have noticed (on the days I do remember my vitamins) that for some reason I have started having hot flashes! It is so weird! I'll be sitting at work, typing away and all of a sudden, I'm grabbing for something to use as a fan and wishing I worked where there is a walk in freezer! Damn, I thought that was just a female thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > mjbearit > > > > > > <mjbearit@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: > > > > > > > > > > Unfamiliar > > > > > > > > territory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > Saturday, > > > > August 14, > > > > > > 2010, 7:08 > > > > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Long > > story short, > > > > I've felt > > > > > > like crap > > > > > > > > > > > > for a > > couple years > > > > now. Sex > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > even of > > > > > > > > > > interest > > > > > > > > > > > > and isn't > > happening > > > > when I > > > > > > " give in " . > > > > > > > > Memory is > > > > > > > > > > shot, > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep > > after every > > > > meal > > > > > > regardless of > > > > > > > > diet (I can > > > > > > > > > > stay awake, > > > > > > > > > > > > but it is > > a > > > > monumental > > > > > > task!), cannot > > > > > > > > focus, > > > > > > > > > > sleep sucks, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm an > > empotional > > > > wreck and > > > > > > the list > > > > > > > > goes on. A > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > > of weeks > > ago I > > > > noticed that > > > > > > my left > > > > > > > > testicle, > > > > > > > > > > which has > > > > > > > > > > > > always > > been my big > > > > one, has > > > > > > gone from > > > > > > > > slightly > > > > > > > > > > smaller than > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > golfball to half > > > > that > > > > > > size. It is > > > > > > > > now the > > > > > > > > > > size of a > > > > > > > > > > > > marble. > > I > > > > contacted the doc > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > him I > > > > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > > > > tests > > run. I am > > > > however > > > > > > very confused > > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > > > > sheer > > > > > > > > > > > > number of > > various > > > > numbers out > > > > > > there and > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > that really > > > > > > > > > > > > explains > > > > everything. The > > > > > > doc had the > > > > > > > > labs do > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > urine and > > blood and > > > > I ended > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > Albumin, > > > > > > > > > > Microalbumin UR > > > > > > > > > > > > QN, > > total > > > > testosterone, SHBG, > > > > > > Total > > > > > > > > Protein, > > > > > > > > > > Globulin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Creatine > > urine, > > > > > > > > Microalbumin/Creatine. The > > > > > > > > > > total test > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > withing the labs > > > > " normal " > > > > > > range, > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > relize does not > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > anything, and > > > > I found a > > > > > > calculator > > > > > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > the Free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testosterone and > > > > > > BioAvailable > > > > > > > > Testosterone. > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > is there is > > > > too much > > > > > > data (at > > > > > > > > least in my > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > state of > > mind) that > > > > I can't > > > > > > find what > > > > > > > > all these > > > > > > > > > > numbers mean > > > > > > > > > > > > when put > > > > together. Those > > > > > > tests just > > > > > > > > posted on > > > > > > > > > > Saturday > > > > > > > > > > > > (today) > > so I don't > > > > expect to > > > > > > hear from > > > > > > > > my doc > > > > > > > > > > until Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > or later > > in the > > > > week. > > > > > > However, I like > > > > > > > > to have > > > > > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > > > > > external > > sources so > > > > I can > > > > > > understand or > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > " FOUL " if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warranted. Can > > > > someone > > > > > > point me to a > > > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > > > > > a more > > complete > > > > picture with > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > and what > > > > > > > > > > they mean and > > > > > > > > > > > > how they > > > > interact? As an > > > > > > example, my > > > > > > > > Creatine > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > > has gone > > from > > > > 120something to > > > > > > 58 over > > > > > > > > the past 2 > > > > > > > > > > years, but > > > > > > > > > > > > what does > > that > > > > mean? How > > > > > > does that > > > > > > > > play into > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > whole > > thing? And > > > > my total > > > > > > test may be > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable but my > > > > SBGH is > > > > > > well over the > > > > > > > > labs > > > > > > > > > > limits. > > > > > > > > > > > > How does > > that > > > > play? And I > > > > > > find no > > > > > > > > reference to > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > " Normal " > > is for > > > > Free Test! > > > > > > I know I'm > > > > > > > > probably > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > > myself > > crazy over > > > > this, but I > > > > > > figure > > > > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > > > > folks here > > > > > > > > > > > > may be > > able to > > > > point me to a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer, I know > > > > nobody > > > > > > here is a > > > > > > > > doctor > > > > > > > > > > (probably) and I > > > > > > > > > > > > know to > > see my > > > > physician, > > > > > > etc. I'm > > > > > > > > just trying > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > educate > > myself. > > > > If I don't > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > > about my > > > > > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > > > > trust the > > doctors, > > > > I deserve > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > outcome I > > > > > > > > > > get! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Niacin can cause " hot flashes " like issues. It is common in many multivitamins. It is a B vitamin which is very effective at increasing the good cholesterol HDL. Some people take a baby aspirin 30 min ahead of it to minimize the flushing effect. Sent via Blackberry > > > > > > > > > > Unfamiliar > > > > > > > > territory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > Saturday, > > > > August 14, > > > > > > 2010, 7:08 > > > > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Long > > story short, > > > > I've felt > > > > > > like crap > > > > > > > > > > > > for a > > couple years > > > > now. Sex > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > even of > > > > > > > > > > interest > > > > > > > > > > > > and isn't > > happening > > > > when I > > > > > > " give in " . > > > > > > > > Memory is > > > > > > > > > > shot, > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep > > after every > > > > meal > > > > > > regardless of > > > > > > > > diet (I can > > > > > > > > > > stay awake, > > > > > > > > > > > > but it is > > a > > > > monumental > > > > > > task!), cannot > > > > > > > > focus, > > > > > > > > > > sleep sucks, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm an > > empotional > > > > wreck and > > > > > > the list > > > > > > > > goes on. A > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > > of weeks > > ago I > > > > noticed that > > > > > > my left > > > > > > > > testicle, > > > > > > > > > > which has > > > > > > > > > > > > always > > been my big > > > > one, has > > > > > > gone from > > > > > > > > slightly > > > > > > > > > > smaller than > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > golfball to half > > > > that > > > > > > size. It is > > > > > > > > now the > > > > > > > > > > size of a > > > > > > > > > > > > marble. > > I > > > > contacted the doc > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > him I > > > > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > > > > tests > > run. I am > > > > however > > > > > > very confused > > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > > > > sheer > > > > > > > > > > > > number of > > various > > > > numbers out > > > > > > there and > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > that really > > > > > > > > > > > > explains > > > > everything. The > > > > > > doc had the > > > > > > > > labs do > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > urine and > > blood and > > > > I ended > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > Albumin, > > > > > > > > > > Microalbumin UR > > > > > > > > > > > > QN, > > total > > > > testosterone, SHBG, > > > > > > Total > > > > > > > > Protein, > > > > > > > > > > Globulin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Creatine > > urine, > > > > > > > > Microalbumin/Creatine. The > > > > > > > > > > total test > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > withing the labs > > > > " normal " > > > > > > range, > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > relize does not > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > anything, and > > > > I found a > > > > > > calculator > > > > > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > the Free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testosterone and > > > > > > BioAvailable > > > > > > > > Testosterone. > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > is there is > > > > too much > > > > > > data (at > > > > > > > > least in my > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > state of > > mind) that > > > > I can't > > > > > > find what > > > > > > > > all these > > > > > > > > > > numbers mean > > > > > > > > > > > > when put > > > > together. Those > > > > > > tests just > > > > > > > > posted on > > > > > > > > > > Saturday > > > > > > > > > > > > (today) > > so I don't > > > > expect to > > > > > > hear from > > > > > > > > my doc > > > > > > > > > > until Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > or later > > in the > > > > week. > > > > > > However, I like > > > > > > > > to have > > > > > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > > > > > external > > sources so > > > > I can > > > > > > understand or > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > " FOUL " if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warranted. Can > > > > someone > > > > > > point me to a > > > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > > > > > a more > > complete > > > > picture with > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > and what > > > > > > > > > > they mean and > > > > > > > > > > > > how they > > > > interact? As an > > > > > > example, my > > > > > > > > Creatine > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > > has gone > > from > > > > 120something to > > > > > > 58 over > > > > > > > > the past 2 > > > > > > > > > > years, but > > > > > > > > > > > > what does > > that > > > > mean? How > > > > > > does that > > > > > > > > play into > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > whole > > thing? And > > > > my total > > > > > > test may be > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable but my > > > > SBGH is > > > > > > well over the > > > > > > > > labs > > > > > > > > > > limits. > > > > > > > > > > > > How does > > that > > > > play? And I > > > > > > find no > > > > > > > > reference to > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > " Normal " > > is for > > > > Free Test! > > > > > > I know I'm > > > > > > > > probably > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > > myself > > crazy over > > > > this, but I > > > > > > figure > > > > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > > > > folks here > > > > > > > > > > > > may be > > able to > > > > point me to a > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer, I know > > > > nobody > > > > > > here is a > > > > > > > > doctor > > > > > > > > > > (probably) and I > > > > > > > > > > > > know to > > see my > > > > physician, > > > > > > etc. I'm > > > > > > > > just trying > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > educate > > myself. > > > > If I don't > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > > about my > > > > > > > > > > health and > > > > > > > > > > > > trust the > > doctors, > > > > I deserve > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > outcome I > > > > > > > > > > get! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Three things make me feel like this high Estradiol, low Sugar and Hyper Thyroid from meds. It can be the Vit. your taking is helping to control one of the above. Co-Moderator Phil > From: mjbearit <mjbearit@...> > Subject: Re: Unfamiliar territory > > Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:32 PM > Well if what I am doing with vitamin > therapy was in question before, today just answered > that. I forgot to take my vitamins to work > today. Bad day. Hopefully once I am doing this > for a few months, I can have the occasional day and not > suffer for it. > Interesting side note though. I have noticed (on the > days I do remember my vitamins) that for some reason I have > started having hot flashes! It is so weird! I'll > be sitting at work, typing away and all of a sudden, I'm > grabbing for something to use as a fan and wishing I worked > where there is a walk in freezer! Damn, I thought that > was just a female thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > mjbearit > > > > > > > <mjbearit@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfamiliar > > > > > > > > > territory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: > > > Saturday, > > > > > August 14, > > > > > > > 2010, 7:08 > > > > > > > > > PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Long > > > story short, > > > > > I've felt > > > > > > > like crap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a > > > couple years > > > > > now. Sex > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > even of > > > > > > > > > > > interest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and isn't > > > happening > > > > > when I > > > > > > > " give in " . > > > > > > > > > Memory is > > > > > > > > > > > shot, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sleep > > > after every > > > > > meal > > > > > > > regardless of > > > > > > > > > diet (I can > > > > > > > > > > > stay > awake, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it is > > > a > > > > > monumental > > > > > > > task!), cannot > > > > > > > > > focus, > > > > > > > > > > > sleep > sucks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm an > > > empotional > > > > > wreck and > > > > > > > the list > > > > > > > > > goes on. A > > > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of weeks > > > ago I > > > > > noticed that > > > > > > > my left > > > > > > > > > testicle, > > > > > > > > > > > which > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always > > > been my big > > > > > one, has > > > > > > > gone from > > > > > > > > > slightly > > > > > > > > > > > smaller > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > golfball to half > > > > > that > > > > > > > size. It is > > > > > > > > > now the > > > > > > > > > > > size of > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marble. > > > I > > > > > contacted the doc > > > > > > > and told > > > > > > > > > him I > > > > > > > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tests > > > run. I am > > > > > however > > > > > > > very confused > > > > > > > > > by the > > > > > > > > > > > sheer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > number of > > > various > > > > > numbers out > > > > > > > there and > > > > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > > > > that > really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explains > > > > > everything. The > > > > > > > doc had the > > > > > > > > > labs do > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > urine and > > > blood and > > > > > I ended > > > > > > > up with > > > > > > > > > Albumin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Microalbumin UR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > QN, > > > total > > > > > testosterone, SHBG, > > > > > > > Total > > > > > > > > > Protein, > > > > > > > > > > > > Globulin, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creatine > > > urine, > > > > > > > > > > Microalbumin/Creatine. The > > > > > > > > > > > total > test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > withing the labs > > > > > " normal " > > > > > > > range, > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > relize > does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean > > > anything, and > > > > > I found a > > > > > > > calculator > > > > > > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > > the Free > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Testosterone and > > > > > > > BioAvailable > > > > > > > > > Testosterone. > > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > is there is > > > > > too much > > > > > > > data (at > > > > > > > > > least in my > > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > > > > > > > > state of > > > mind) that > > > > > I can't > > > > > > > find what > > > > > > > > > all these > > > > > > > > > > > numbers > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when put > > > > > together. Those > > > > > > > tests just > > > > > > > > > posted on > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (today) > > > so I don't > > > > > expect to > > > > > > > hear from > > > > > > > > > my doc > > > > > > > > > > > until > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or later > > > in the > > > > > week. > > > > > > > However, I like > > > > > > > > > to have > > > > > > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > > > > > > > external > > > sources so > > > > > I can > > > > > > > understand or > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > > " FOUL " > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warranted. Can > > > > > someone > > > > > > > point me to a > > > > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a more > > > complete > > > > > picture with > > > > > > > numbers > > > > > > > > > and what > > > > > > > > > > > they mean > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how they > > > > > interact? As an > > > > > > > example, my > > > > > > > > > Creatine > > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has gone > > > from > > > > > 120something to > > > > > > > 58 over > > > > > > > > > the past 2 > > > > > > > > > > > years, > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what does > > > that > > > > > mean? How > > > > > > > does that > > > > > > > > > play into > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole > > > thing? And > > > > > my total > > > > > > > test may be > > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > acceptable but my > > > > > SBGH is > > > > > > > well over the > > > > > > > > > labs > > > > > > > > > > > > limits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How does > > > that > > > > > play? And I > > > > > > > find no > > > > > > > > > reference to > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Normal " > > > is for > > > > > Free Test! > > > > > > > I know I'm > > > > > > > > > probably > > > > > > > > > > > making > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself > > > crazy over > > > > > this, but I > > > > > > > figure > > > > > > > > > some of the > > > > > > > > > > > folks > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may be > > > able to > > > > > point me to a > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > > source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer, I know > > > > > nobody > > > > > > > here is a > > > > > > > > > doctor > > > > > > > > > > > > (probably) and I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know to > > > see my > > > > > physician, > > > > > > > etc. I'm > > > > > > > > > just trying > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > educate > > > myself. > > > > > If I don't > > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > > > about my > > > > > > > > > > > health > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trust the > > > doctors, > > > > > I deserve > > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > > > > outcome I > > > > > > > > > > > get! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groups > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -fullfeatured > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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