Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 You should probably get a nurse to help you do the first injection or so. I'm sure Phil will explain how he does it with small needles. Depo Testosterone is designed to be injected deeply into a large muscle, like the Gluetus Maxiumus or Vastus Lateralis. If you don't know where these muscles are, Google is your friend. Youtube probably has " howto's " also. The idea here is that is will disperse very slowly and thus even out the amount in the bloodstream. If you cup your butt cheek in you hand, the place to inject will be between your middle and ring finger, close to the web between them. The vastus lateralis is on the outside part of your thigh. I go slightly outside of the midline, and a little closer to the hip than to the knee. I use a 22 ga 1 1/2 inch detachable needle. I have a box of 18 ga needles and use them to draw the testosterone, then re-attach the 1 1/2 " 22 ga needle for injection. I " dart " the needle in, then aspirate. In nearly 3 years I've never seen blood upon aspiration. If you see blood you should try another spot. I do 1/2 ml every Saturday. My wife is an RN and gives me the shot in the Gluetus Maximus, alternating right and left cheeks. If she is not available I inject myself into the vastus lateralis. I'll be the first to admit the 1 1/2 " needle looks wicked, but in well over 100 injections, it only hurt once, when, I suppose, we got too close to a nerve. Phil and I have explained our different methods several times and agree to disagree. He uses small short needles and slowly pushes them in. I use long, larger gauge needles and " dart " them in. Phil says his method doesn't hurt, and I say my method doesn't hurt. C'est La Vie! Randy > > Guys, > > I need a quick lesson. > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to shots. > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda yes'd him because I was in a rush to get out of there. > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to time, but hearing from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > Side of thigh okay? > Aspirate or not? > > Any other suggestions? > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read enough stuff here to know that's not good, so I asked him about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told me to split it up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per week. Sound okay? > > Thanks in advance > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 If you look at the upper right of this Bayer Pharma site, there are instructions on how to inject Nebido. Same as what you are talking about, except the Nebido is delivered in 4 mL dose, and therefore the injection takes two or more minutes. A smaller volume injection would not take as long. Otherwise, the technique would be identical. I like this video because it gives a short anatomy lesson on what you are trying to hit, and what you are avoiding. It also shows was aspirating blood looks like: http://www.nebido.com/en/hcp/product-information/faq-nebido/index.php Here is another one, similar info but not as complete: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5364331279912080510# On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:58 PM, k0cm <Randy@...> wrote: > > > You should probably get a nurse to help you do the first injection or so. > > I'm sure Phil will explain how he does it with small needles. > > Depo Testosterone is designed to be injected deeply into a large muscle, > like the Gluetus Maxiumus or Vastus Lateralis. If you don't know where these > muscles are, Google is your friend. Youtube probably has " howto's " also. > > The idea here is that is will disperse very slowly and thus even out the > amount in the bloodstream. > > If you cup your butt cheek in you hand, the place to inject will be between > your middle and ring finger, close to the web between them. > > The vastus lateralis is on the outside part of your thigh. I go slightly > outside of the midline, and a little closer to the hip than to the knee. > > I use a 22 ga 1 1/2 inch detachable needle. I have a box of 18 ga needles > and use them to draw the testosterone, then re-attach the 1 1/2 " 22 ga > needle for injection. I " dart " the needle in, then aspirate. In nearly 3 > years I've never seen blood upon aspiration. If you see blood you should try > another spot. > > I do 1/2 ml every Saturday. My wife is an RN and gives me the shot in the > Gluetus Maximus, alternating right and left cheeks. > > If she is not available I inject myself into the vastus lateralis. > > I'll be the first to admit the 1 1/2 " needle looks wicked, but in well over > 100 injections, it only hurt once, when, I suppose, we got too close to a > nerve. > > Phil and I have explained our different methods several times and agree to > disagree. He uses small short needles and slowly pushes them in. I use long, > larger gauge needles and " dart " them in. Phil says his method doesn't hurt, > and I say my method doesn't hurt. C'est La Vie! > > Randy > > > > > > Guys, > > > > I need a quick lesson. > > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to shots. > > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda yes'd him because I > was in a rush to get out of there. > > > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to time, but hearing > from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > > > Side of thigh okay? > > Aspirate or not? > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read enough stuff here to know > that's not good, so I asked him about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told > me to split it up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per week. Sound > okay? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I agree Randy.The deep IM injections with a 1 1/2 " needle are painless and work well.I used a short needle when first starting out and wondered why it took more and more test to achieve improvement.Thought I was burning it up fast but in reality I was injecting in fat with poor absorption.Blood rich muscle is where it is intended to get maximum results. > > > > Guys, > > > > I need a quick lesson. > > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to shots. > > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda yes'd him because I was in a rush to get out of there. > > > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to time, but hearing from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > > > Side of thigh okay? > > Aspirate or not? > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read enough stuff here to know that's not good, so I asked him about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told me to split it up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per week. Sound okay? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Yes Aspirate I use a 27g 1ml. x 1/2 " lg. needle and shoot into my thigh. The oil comes out slow so I put the amount of my shots in air into the needle then I push this air into the vial and then pull the plunger all the way down and hold it until I get my dose. I shoot into my thigh read this link and the info part about doing shots. You don't need a big needle to do this. Yes try doing your shots every week 100mgs it is nuts to do 400 mgs every 4 weeks. If you have a problem staying leveled try doing 50 mgs 2x's a week. I do one leg one shot then the next leg the next shot when I come back to the first leg I don't shoot in the same spot. http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm Co-Moderator Phil > From: Dave <dcbaden@...> > Subject: How to inject Test. > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 7:23 PM > Guys, > > I need a quick lesson. > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to shots. > > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda yes'd > him because I was in a rush to get out of there. > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to > time, but hearing from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > Side of thigh okay? > Aspirate or not? > > Any other suggestions? > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read > enough stuff here to know that's not good, so I asked him > about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told me to split it > up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per > week. Sound okay? > > Thanks in advance > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Randy it's all good there is not right or wrong way as long as you get good levels. Dr. Shippen does his own shots subQ and feels this holds down the converting of the Test C into Estradiol. So when the word came out he does this a lot of men now shoot subQ. Co-Moderator Phil > From: k0cm <Randy@...> > Subject: Re: How to inject Test. > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 9:58 PM > You should probably get a nurse to > help you do the first injection or so. > > I'm sure Phil will explain how he does it with small > needles. > > Depo Testosterone is designed to be injected deeply into a > large muscle, like the Gluetus Maxiumus or Vastus > Lateralis. If you don't know where these muscles are, > Google is your friend. Youtube probably has " howto's " > also. > > The idea here is that is will disperse very slowly and thus > even out the amount in the bloodstream. > > If you cup your butt cheek in you hand, the place to inject > will be between your middle and ring finger, close to the > web between them. > > The vastus lateralis is on the outside part of your thigh. > I go slightly outside of the midline, and a little closer to > the hip than to the knee. > > I use a 22 ga 1 1/2 inch detachable needle. I have a > box of 18 ga needles and use them to draw the testosterone, > then re-attach the 1 1/2 " 22 ga needle for injection. > I " dart " the needle in, then aspirate. In nearly 3 > years I've never seen blood upon aspiration. If you see > blood you should try another spot. > > I do 1/2 ml every Saturday. My wife is an RN and > gives me the shot in the Gluetus Maximus, alternating right > and left cheeks. > > If she is not available I inject myself into the vastus > lateralis. > > I'll be the first to admit the 1 1/2 " needle looks wicked, > but in well over 100 injections, it only hurt once, when, I > suppose, we got too close to a nerve. > > Phil and I have explained our different methods several > times and agree to disagree. He uses small short > needles and slowly pushes them in. I use long, larger > gauge needles and " dart " them in. Phil says his method > doesn't hurt, and I say my method doesn't hurt. C'est La > Vie! > > Randy > > > > > > Guys, > > > > I need a quick lesson. > > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to > shots. > > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda > yes'd him because I was in a rush to get out of there. > > > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to > time, but hearing from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > > > Side of thigh okay? > > Aspirate or not? > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read > enough stuff here to know that's not good, so I asked him > about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told me to split it > up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per > week. Sound okay? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Thank you gentlemen! Good info. Knew I could count on you all to come through! > > > From: Dave <dcbaden@...> > > Subject: How to inject Test. > > > > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 7:23 PM > > Guys, > > > > I need a quick lesson. > > I finally got my doc to switch me from gel to shots. > > > > He asked me if I knew how to inject, and I just kinda yes'd > > him because I was in a rush to get out of there. > > > > I keep animals, that I inject antibiotics from time to > > time, but hearing from you guys wouldn't hurt. > > > > Side of thigh okay? > > Aspirate or not? > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > BTW, he put me on 400mg 1x per month. I've read > > enough stuff here to know that's not good, so I asked him > > about weekly and he kinda shrugged and told me to split it > > up however I liked. I plan on doing 100mg 1x per > > week. Sound okay? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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