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Self Injections with a 27ga X 1/2 " needle in the outer thigh is painless &

inexpensive.

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> Hello, so i am still trying to sort through my thryoid issue but i also have

testosterone issue. My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges 400-800). I am

43 year old man with hashimotos disease.

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> I have tried androgel gel and androderm patch. The gel was much better than

the patch, but i ended up getting off of it. The patch was not good at all. It

did the same thing to me that the thyroid does(sent me hypo).

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> from what my dr. tells me there is now a pellet he would like to explore for

me.

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> Thank you

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So none of the creams or pellets are good? What if I have a reaction to it

like I do the gels?

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> > Hello, so i am still trying to sort through my thryoid issue but i also

have testosterone issue. My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges 400-800). I

am 43 year old man with hashimotos disease.

> >

> > I have tried androgel gel and androderm patch. The gel was much better than

the patch, but i ended up getting off of it. The patch was not good at all. It

did the same thing to me that the thyroid does(sent me hypo).

> >

> > from what my dr. tells me there is now a pellet he would like to explore for

me.

> >

> > Thank you

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Bruce,

If you try pellets make sure they give you enough most of us trying them only

last a month on them and the cost is very high. Dr.'s that use them don't give

enough for me I need 1500 mgs of Pellets put in. They sell them in 200 mgs

pellets but Dr.'s will not do this they want you coming back every 4 to 6 weeks

taking your money. To me Pellets is the highest costing forum of TRT out there.

Some men see Dr.'s from http://www.sottopelletherapy.com/

And have good luck on them.

I can tell you with your Thyroid problems your skin is to thick to let the Patch

or gels even creams let the Testosteorne from them into your blood through your

skin. Men with Thyroid problems get a thicker skin.

If I were you figuer out why your T levels are low first if it can be fixed fix

it retest see if your T levels go back up. If not go on shots starting with 100

mgs / week have your Dr. show you how to do them your self.

I do mine into my thigh using a small 27g 1ml. x 1/2 " lg. needle works great.

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> From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...>

> Subject: bruce testosterone question

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> Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 7:39 PM

> Hello,  so i am still trying to

> sort through my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone

> issue.  My T was 215  and then it was 250 (ranges

> 400-800).  I am 43 year old man with hashimotos

> disease.

>

> I have tried androgel gel and androderm patch.  The

> gel was much better than the patch, but i ended up getting

> off of it.  The patch was not good at all.  It did

> the same thing to me that the thyroid does(sent me hypo).

>

> from what my dr. tells me there is now a pellet he would

> like to explore for me.   

>

> Thank you

>

>

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I feel your reaction is due to your levels going lower. When we have a thicker

skin doing the patch or gels even creams enough gets trough the skin to let the

brain see the T going into your blood. Yet it's not enough but enough for your

brain to slow down sending the LH and FSH message to your testis so they stop

making the T you were making before the med. I have seen men with levels at 275

go on gels and it's the starting dose 5 grams there brain would see this stop

telling there testis to make T and end up lower then they started.

Some only needed more then the starting dose of 5 grams most did better on 10

grams.

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> From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...>

> Subject: Re: bruce testosterone question

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> Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 9:41 AM

> So none of the creams or pellets are

> good?   What if I have a reaction to it like

> I do the gels?

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello,  so i am still trying to sort through

> my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone issue. 

> My T was 215  and then it was 250 (ranges

> 400-800).  I am 43 year old man with hashimotos

> disease.

> > >

> > > I have tried androgel gel and androderm

> patch.  The gel was much better than the patch, but i

> ended up getting off of it.  The patch was not good at

> all.  It did the same thing to me that the thyroid

> does(sent me hypo).

> > >

> > > from what my dr. tells me there is now a pellet

> he would like to explore for me.   

> > >

> > > Thank you

> > >

> >

>

>

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