Guest guest Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 High cortisol can cause reverse T3, and it looks like that wasn't tested. If your cortisol is still high at night, melatonin lowers cortisol and can help you sleep. Sometimes you only need .5 mg. > > I am a 55 yr old male on TRT for 3 years now. I am still getting extreme fatigue, brain fog,low libido and ED. I take 40 mg inj. test cyp Q 4 days,.25 mg arimidex 2X weekly, and just started on hcg 500 mg 2X weekly . my body temp in am was at 96.2,has drifted up to 97.3 while on 2 grains naturethroid for the last 6 weeks. saliva cortisol 2 years ago showed all 4 samples extremely elevated, especially at night. sleep has been very difficult.latest bloods: > > iron 138ug/dl 45-170 > Ferritin 37 ng/ml 20-380 > ft3 372pg/dl 230-420 > t3 r (uptake) 32.2% 27.2-40.7 > t4 free 1.0 ng/dl .8-1.8 > > estradiol 34pg/ml > > test. total 403ng/dl > test.%free 2.51% > test. free 101.2 pg/ml > > new salivary cortisols are pending. Can persistent hypothyroid block the benefits of trt therapy ? Help please. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi and Welcome, Your Total T is still very low you need to get them levels up into the upper 1/3 of our labs range then go by how you feel. Some of us men need more we eat up the T as fast as we take it I am one of them. Your Estradiol is still on the high side if mine is this high I have Panic attacks. Your Cortisol levels being high across the day on that old test are the first stages of Adrenal Fatigue. If you can't change what is making this that high they will wear out and your Cortisol levels will fall as you can see in this link. http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html Your Ferritin is low needs to be over 70 to feel best my Thyroid is I feel why my levels are low. Here is a link to how I get started treating my Adrenals and Thyroid you can't take more NTH if your Cortisol levels are low you need this to carry the Thyroid hormone out of your blood into your cells. I use my Temps avg. to tell if my Adrenals are supported on HC meds. If your avg. that you will read about in the link goes up or down more then 2ths your adrenals are not supported. The avg. starting dose of Test C shots is 100mgs/ week your doing less then this. I do 80 mgs every 3 days my TT is 850 I feel great as long as I keep my Estradiol in the sweet spot. Here is a copy from a file I made on how to keep in the sweet spot of your Estradiol on arimidex. =================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. Co-Moderator Phil > From: yinyang42b <acupet@...> > Subject: help with control > > Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:52 PM > I am a 55 yr old male on TRT for 3 > years now. I am still getting extreme fatigue, brain fog,low > libido and ED. I take 40 mg inj. test cyp Q 4 days,.25 mg > arimidex 2X weekly, and just started on hcg 500 mg 2X weekly > . my body temp in am was at 96.2,has drifted up to 97.3 > while on 2 grains naturethroid for the last 6 weeks. saliva > cortisol 2 years ago showed all 4 samples extremely > elevated, especially at night. sleep has been very > difficult.latest bloods: > > iron 138ug/dl 45-170 > Ferritin 37 ng/ml 20-380 > ft3 372pg/dl 230-420 > t3 r (uptake) 32.2% 27.2-40.7 > t4 free 1.0 ng/dl .8-1.8 > > estradiol 34pg/ml > > test. total 403ng/dl > test.%free 2.51% > test. free 101.2 pg/ml > > new salivary cortisols are pending. Can persistent > hypothyroid block the benefits of trt therapy ? Help > please. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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