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This may be a issue of fitness & endurance in general not just Sexual

Fitness.

K Ullis, MD

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Barb <baba@...> wrote:

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>

> Just curious if anyone could guess why a man would be fatigued the day

> after sex? Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to have

> sex, right? He has morning wood. Last thyroid labs looked pretty good. A

> morning blood cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other hormones

> he should have checked out like DHEA?

>

> Barb

>

>

>

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Only things I can think of is IGF-1 testing Growth Hormone is he on HC for

Adrenals if not a morning blood test can be high because of the needle taking

blood do a 4x's in a day Saliva test to see what his rhythm looks like. I was

low on DHEA most of my adult life taking it never fixed my Fatigue. Also there

is Ferritin levels I was below normal went on iron pills and in about 3 months

started having much more angry

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Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Fatigue After Sex

>

> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> Just curious if anyone could guess

> why a man would be fatigued the day after sex? 

> Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> have sex, right?  He has morning wood.  Last

> thyroid labs looked pretty good.  A morning blood

> cortisol was at the top of the range.  Are there other

> hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

>

> Barb

>

>

>

>

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Is he fatigued after a good, intense exercise bout?

k ullis md

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> Only things I can think of is IGF-1 testing Growth Hormone is he on HC for

> Adrenals if not a morning blood test can be high because of the needle

> taking blood do a 4x's in a day Saliva test to see what his rhythm looks

> like. I was low on DHEA most of my adult life taking it never fixed my

> Fatigue. Also there is Ferritin levels I was below normal went on iron pills

> and in about 3 months started having much more angry

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

> > From: Barb <baba@... <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > < %40>

> > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

>

> > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex?

> > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > have sex, right? He has morning wood. Last

> > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A morning blood

> > cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other

> > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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I'm not and expert by any means, but I get the same way and I suffer from

adrenal fatigue.

If you're on Hydrocortisone treatment, you may have to stress dose either

the day or of the next day.

But again, I'm not an expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Karlis C. Ullis, M.D.

<kullismd@...>wrote:

> Is he fatigued after a good, intense exercise bout?

> k ullis md

>

> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:54 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...

> >wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Only things I can think of is IGF-1 testing Growth Hormone is he on HC

> for

> > Adrenals if not a morning blood test can be high because of the needle

> > taking blood do a 4x's in a day Saliva test to see what his rhythm looks

> > like. I was low on DHEA most of my adult life taking it never fixed my

> > Fatigue. Also there is Ferritin levels I was below normal went on iron

> pills

> > and in about 3 months started having much more angry

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

> >

> > > From: Barb <baba@... <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > < %40>

> > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> >

> > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex?

> > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > > have sex, right? He has morning wood. Last

> > > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A morning blood

> > > cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other

> > > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> > >

> > > Barb

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

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I am on Cortef 30 mgs a day I find that if you need to stress dose a lot your

not on enough HC a day. I started at 20 mgs 5 mgs every 4 hrs then one day I

was working in the yard and over did it ended up in the ER it was lucky for me I

had a card on my wallet saying I suffer from Hypopituitary and listed the meds I

was on they seen I was on 20 mgs a day of cortef and gave me a big shot of

Medrol. After this my Dr. upped my dose to 25 mgs a day but it happened again I

ended up in the ER needed Medrol again the Dr. in the ER told me go up to 30 mgs

a day after this I don't feel the need to stress dose. I go to the gym 3 x's a

week and work out 90 min.'s I recover well and don't get shaky, weak or sick to

my stomach. It's safe to take HC up to 40 mgs a day if you need it. I am on HC

for life.

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Phil

> > >

> > > > From: Barb <baba@...

> <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > >

> < %40>

> > > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > >

> > > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > > why a man would be fatigued the day after

> sex?

> > > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad,

> if he was able to

> > > > have sex, right?  He has morning

> wood.  Last

> > > > thyroid labs looked pretty good.  A

> morning blood

> > > > cortisol was at the top of the range. 

> Are there other

> > > > hormones he should have checked out like

> DHEA?

> > > >

> > > > Barb

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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Yeah, I'm still in the process of finding a good dose for me. I have

digestion problems, so I think that I don't always digest and absorb a

consitant amount of HC. I'm currently on 40 mg of compounded HC and my doc

wants to push me up to 50 mg. So, hopefully that will help. Thanks for the

advice, Phil.

Mike

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:18 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> I am on Cortef 30 mgs a day I find that if you need to stress dose a lot

> your not on enough HC a day. I started at 20 mgs 5 mgs every 4 hrs then one

> day I was working in the yard and over did it ended up in the ER it was

> lucky for me I had a card on my wallet saying I suffer from Hypopituitary

> and listed the meds I was on they seen I was on 20 mgs a day of cortef and

> gave me a big shot of Medrol. After this my Dr. upped my dose to 25 mgs a

> day but it happened again I ended up in the ER needed Medrol again the Dr.

> in the ER told me go up to 30 mgs a day after this I don't feel the need to

> stress dose. I go to the gym 3 x's a week and work out 90 min.'s I recover

> well and don't get shaky, weak or sick to my stomach. It's safe to take HC

> up to 40 mgs a day if you need it. I am on HC for life.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: Barb <baba@... <baba%40cfl.rr.com>

> > <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > > > < %40>

> > < %40>

> > > > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > > >

> > > > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > > > why a man would be fatigued the day after

> > sex?

> > > > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad,

> > if he was able to

> > > > > have sex, right? He has morning

> > wood. Last

> > > > > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A

> > morning blood

> > > > > cortisol was at the top of the range.

> > Are there other

> > > > > hormones he should have checked out like

> > DHEA?

> > > > >

> > > > > Barb

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Shoot... I thought it was a good thing when you fell asleep after sex.

After all sex relaxes every muscle in the body. When I was married it was

our favorite way to end the day... we both conked out shortly after...

usally her going first.

Re: Fatigue After Sex

Only things I can think of is IGF-1 testing Growth Hormone is he on HC for

Adrenals if not a morning blood test can be high because of the needle

taking blood do a 4x's in a day Saliva test to see what his rhythm looks

like. I was low on DHEA most of my adult life taking it never fixed my

Fatigue. Also there is Ferritin levels I was below normal went on iron pills

and in about 3 months started having much more angry Co-Moderator Phil

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He was on HC and once we lowered thyroid, was able to wean off. His original

salivary cortisol test showed him low at noon, his ferritin level was about 100

last time, and I'm thinking, after reading some other posts, that his adrenals

are still tender and can't take much excitement.

Thanks,

Barb

>

> > From: Barb <baba@...>

> > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> >

> > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex? 

> > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > have sex, right?  He has morning wood.  Last

> > thyroid labs looked pretty good.  A morning blood

> > cortisol was at the top of the range.  Are there other

> > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Can't do intense exercise; still recovering from trashed adrenals (PTSD from

paranoid schizophrenic psycho at work).

There was a time when neither of us could walk around the block, and we're up to

3x now, so I guess if he can ever get his regular exercise stamina back, then

having sex won't wear him out either.

Thanks,

Barb

> >

> > > From: Barb <baba@... <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > < %40>

> > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> >

> > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex?

> > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > > have sex, right? He has morning wood. Last

> > > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A morning blood

> > > cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other

> > > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> > >

> > > Barb

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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But you have the same symptom, so thanks for posting. He did take an Isocort

right before.

> > >

> > > > From: Barb <baba@... <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > > < %40>

> > > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > >

> > > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex?

> > > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > > > have sex, right? He has morning wood. Last

> > > > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A morning blood

> > > > cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other

> > > > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> > > >

> > > > Barb

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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Sounds like you're on the right track to finding out why he's so fatigued. If

it was primarily sexual fatigue with inability to get hard for a day or two, I

would wonder what his prolactin level would be, too. I recall a fascinating

study linking men who could last sexually for several rounds with a lower

prolactin response after ejaculation.

~Xian

> > >

> > > > From: Barb <baba@ <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > > > < %40>

> > > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > >

> > > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex?

> > > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he was able to

> > > > have sex, right? He has morning wood. Last

> > > > thyroid labs looked pretty good. A morning blood

> > > > cortisol was at the top of the range. Are there other

> > > > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> > > >

> > > > Barb

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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Yes a few people on HC need more because a lot of it gets killed in there

stomach. My Dr. has me take my morning dose 10 mgs at about 6am then I do a

feasting labs at about 9am testing morning cortisol as long as I show a levels

he knows I am not shut down. I have a range doing this from 7 to 15 it's all

about how much stess you in when doing this but if my levels came back say 2 he

would know I am on to much HC.

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Phil

> > > > >

> > > > > > From: Barb <baba@...

> <baba%40cfl.rr.com>

> > > <baba%40cfl.rr.com>>

> > > > > > Subject: Fatigue

> After Sex

> > > > > > < %40>

> > > < %40>

> > > > > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35

> PM

> > > > >

> > > > > > Just curious if anyone could

> guess

> > > > > > why a man would be fatigued the

> day after

> > > sex?

> > > > > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be

> too bad,

> > > if he was able to

> > > > > > have sex, right?  He has

> morning

> > > wood.  Last

> > > > > > thyroid labs looked pretty

> good.  A

> > > morning blood

> > > > > > cortisol was at the top of the

> range.

> > > Are there other

> > > > > > hormones he should have checked

> out like

> > > DHEA?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Barb

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Me too I here in the movies and men posting how they go 2 to 3 x's a night I

could never do this even when I was a kid.

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> From: Prunty <allen@...>

> Subject: RE: Fatigue After Sex

>

> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 9:05 PM

> Shoot... I thought it was a good

> thing when you fell asleep after sex.

> After all sex relaxes every muscle in the body.  When

> I was married it was

> our favorite way to end the day... we both conked out

> shortly after...

> usally her going first.

>

>

>

> Re: Fatigue After Sex

>

> Only things I can think of is IGF-1 testing Growth Hormone

> is he on HC for

> Adrenals if not a morning blood test can be high because of

> the needle

> taking blood do a 4x's in a day Saliva test to see what his

> rhythm looks

> like.  I was low on DHEA most of my adult life taking

> it never fixed my

> Fatigue. Also there is Ferritin levels I was below normal

> went on iron pills

> and in about 3 months started having much more angry

> Co-Moderator Phil

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Yes this is very possible one of the best mods that helped me with Adrenal

Fatigue she stopped HC a few times and labs were good but if she got upset she

would get weak, shaky and sick to her stomach this is the start of Adrenal

Crisis.  So she stays on HC some of use need to be on it for life we were to

long if finding out the adrenals were over worked and they don't come back.

You might know her Val. at

NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: Fatigue After Sex

>

> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 9:47 PM

> He was on HC and once we lowered

> thyroid, was able to wean off.  His original salivary

> cortisol test showed him low at noon, his ferritin level was

> about 100 last time, and I'm thinking, after reading some

> other posts, that his adrenals are still tender and can't

> take much excitement.

>

> Thanks,

> Barb

>

>

> >

> > > From: Barb <baba@...>

> > > Subject: Fatigue After Sex

> > >

> > > Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:35 PM

> > > Just curious if anyone could guess

> > > why a man would be fatigued the day after sex? 

> > > Testosterone/estrogen must not be too bad, if he

> was able to

> > > have sex, right?  He has morning wood.  Last

> > > thyroid labs looked pretty good.  A morning

> blood

> > > cortisol was at the top of the range.  Are there

> other

> > > hormones he should have checked out like DHEA?

> > >

> > > Barb

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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