RE: I Stopped HcG completely???

December 10, 2010

I've been doing a lot of reading about hCG lately, but I should warn you that

I'm still a newbie to all of this.

Some docs say hCG is a good way to administer TRT, either alone or in

combination with T supplementation, because:

1) hCG continues to stimulate the testes. This prevents shrinkage and keeps the

testes working. There may be unknown benefits to keeping up your own production

(besides avoiding atrophy).

2) hCG will stimulate all of the other LH receptors in the body, including the

brain and adrenal glands, which would otherwise be deprived of any source of

stimulation (since exogenous T shuts down LH production).

Dr. Crisler suggests there are various possible benefits to hormone regulation

by continuing with hCG, but I think that is mostly informed speculation rather

than confirmed fact.

If it's any consolation, I'm asking the exact opposite question: does taking hCG

involve any risks?

This being a new field, which is just beginning to get the attention from

researchers that it deserves, at this point no one can really say what's best.

I'm glad the wife is happy.

CH

> > >

> > > I'm under the care of Dr. Crisler, which includes

> > injecting HCG two days and one day prior to injecting Test

> > Cyp. I inject 250IU at a time.

> > >

> > > I'm wondering, though, if there's any advantage or

> > disadvantage to injecting 125IU for the four days prior to

> > the Test Cyp? Does anyone have any experience in this area?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Jim

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

December 10, 2010

No I went on 23 yrs doing TRT with out HCG when I went on the HCG my testis were

the size of small grapes. Doing the HCG they came back up in size after 23 yrs

of not working.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: master_trancer <master_trancer@...>

> > Subject: Re: HCG dosage and frequency

> question

> >

> > Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 7:17 PM

> > I have seen from other posters that

> > they have gotten a boost in libido from doing a

> smaller,

> > more frequent HCG shot. I believe thats the case for

> me as

> > well.

> >

> > I am doing 150iu ED for now, and I may go down to

> 100iu and

> > see what that does. I do my T-Cyp shot every 3 days.

> >

> > As far as E2, I think I have had trouble with that

> since

> > day 1 of starting TRT. I wish I knew to have had my

> E2

> > checked before even starting TRT, but I just didnt

> know

> > about it. Without having it under control before using

> HCG

> > probably hasnt helped. I think I am finally getting

> close to

> > having it at the right level.

> >

> > I am sure by you having the good DR.C as your doc, you

> will

> > be just fine.

> >

> > >

> > > I'm under the care of Dr. Crisler, which

> includes

> > injecting HCG two days and one day prior to injecting

> Test

> > Cyp. I inject 250IU at a time.

> > >

> > > I'm wondering, though, if there's any advantage

> or

> > disadvantage to injecting 125IU for the four days

> prior to

> > the Test Cyp? Does anyone have any experience in this

> area?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Jim

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

December 10, 2010

I am searching for a good doc, but in the meantime want to start shots

after 15 yrs of Androgel. Lousy labs, low libido, exhausted when I wake

up. Cognitive issues, the biggest change is not real interested in sex.

: (

I am waiting for an order of Enzymatic therapy Pure Rip w/DIM and want

to start shots. Please explain a little about shots; dosage, how many