Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't feel the androgel did this to you if your Dr. changed your thyroid meds. How did you feel the problem with men on Androgel is they start on a low dose in your case 5 grams. When your brain sees the testosterone from this it will stop telling your testis to make the Testosterone they were making and all your left with is what the gel is going. So if the gel is not getting through your skin and it does not for most men with a Thyroid problem. You end up going down in your levels and feel like crap. Men with a Thyroid Problem get a thicker skin and gels and creams don't get through the skin as well. You might have had a base level of say 300 not on the 5 grams of gel you left with a lower level like 200. Now your Dr. is telling you do to less with out doing labs to see what is going on and you now can fall even lower then your were on 5 grams. Men need to retest when they start on 5 grams of Andorgel so they know it's working. You need to do this after 2 weeks or your going to feel dam bad until you see this Dr. and do labs in the time he says to come back. I have seen Dr.'s out men on a low dose like this and tell them to come back in 2 to 3 months this is nuts. If I were your I would call your Dr. tell him what I told you and go higher on the gel. See if you feel better this way. I have been hyper on my Thyroid meds lately and know how it feels I sweat like a pig have feelings of panic and my BP is high with a high heart rate if I track this by taking my temps after I am up 3 hrs 3 x's a day every 3 hrs the add them up and div. by 3 if your temps are up mine were on avg. 98.4 now they are 99.2 I had to cut back on my Thyroid meds. Tell me how your feeling. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel > last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt > the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? > Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I > feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other > half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or > something? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Phil, So it's possible for test to drop in 3 days after starting androgel? Maybe I should start again with full packet instead of taking his advice with half and retest levels in 2 weeks? > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel > > last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt > > the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? > > Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I > > feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other > > half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or > > something? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 which size packet?  androgel comes in 2.5 g packets  and 5 g packets     From: andrenym007 <no_reply > Subject: Androgel Packets Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM  O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 5 g packets. My test levels were 157, test was at 3pm, usually 220 when taken in the morning. > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > Â > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 It's up to you I just give avice here I am not a Dr. I would call him and tell him what you learned here. And yes this can happen buy 3 days how did you feel and what kind of Thyroid meds are you and how much did he up the dose. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:18 PM > Phil, > > So it's possible for test to drop in 3 days after starting > androgel? Maybe I should start again with full packet > instead of taking his advice with half and retest levels in > 2 weeks? > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel > > > last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that > maybe it wasnt > > > the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were > adjusted? > > > Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet > and see how I > > > feel and then after a week go up to full packet. > Will other > > > half of packet be ok the next day as far as it > spoiling or > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I never seen a Dr. start a man on 2.5 grams if this Dr. did this he needs to find a better Dr. that would be NUTS. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I > stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it > was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me > to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then > after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet > be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I can't remember what this is called but men with a Thyroid problem get a thicker skin and gels at this dose don't work some men can't do gels need shots. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:25 PM > 5 g packets. My test levels were 157, > test was at 3pm, usually 220 when taken in the morning. > > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I > stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it > was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me > to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then > after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet > be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well I was on 250 synthroid and felt pretty good with tsh at .019 and free t4 was at 1.3. I lowered it to 225 because I was having palpitations and then I wasnt feeling so good and my tsh went to 8! I'm now on 250 again. > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 11:41 AM > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel > > > > last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that > > maybe it wasnt > > > > the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were > > adjusted? > > > > Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet > > and see how I > > > > feel and then after a week go up to full packet. > > Will other > > > > half of packet be ok the next day as far as it > > spoiling or > > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 When you get your Testosterone in check we will take about Synthroid and how most people don't do well on it. Better to day a natural dessicated thyroid we use to do great on Armour but now can't get it. We now use ERFA Thyroid. http://www.universaldrugstore.com/medications/Thyroid/60mg When you get time read this link about Adrenals and Thyroid some people on Synthroid stress out there Adrenals and end up with low Cortisol levels. http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/ Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:35 PM > Well I was on 250 synthroid and felt > pretty good with tsh at .019 and free t4 was at 1.3. I > lowered it to 225 because I was having palpitations and then > I wasnt feeling so good and my tsh went to 8! I'm now on 250 > again. > > > > > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > > > > Subject: Androgel > Packets > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 11:41 > AM > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel > > > > > last week so I stopped. I'm thinking > now that > > > maybe it wasnt > > > > > the gel and it was my thyroid meds > which were > > > adjusted? > > > > > Anyway doc told me to start with half a > packet > > > and see how I > > > > > feel and then after a week go up to > full packet. > > > Will other > > > > > half of packet be ok the next day as > far as it > > > spoiling or > > > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I started again this morning with the 5g packets. Crossing my fingers. I accidentally got some on my face and neck, no big deal right? > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Neck and face try not to get it on there every time you put on the gel but once in a wile will not hurt. Co-Moderator Phil > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets > > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 10:25 AM > I started again this morning with the > 5g packets. Crossing my fingers. I accidentally got some on > my face and neck, no big deal right? > > > > > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week > so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel > and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc > told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and > then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of > packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 not a big deal at all  just keep it on back, shoulders if possible and wait awhile; other people (e.g. spouse or children) could pick some up if it wasn't dry. 5 mins it is usually dry.     From: andrenym007 <no_reply > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 7:25 AM  I started again this morning with the 5g packets. Crossing my fingers. I accidentally got some on my face and neck, no big deal right? > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply@group s.com> > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Even when it's dry if you don't have a shirt on it can put testosterone on them. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets > > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 7:25 AM > > > > > > > I started again this morning with the 5g packets. Crossing > my fingers. I accidentally got some on my face and neck, no > big deal right? > > > > > > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply@group > s.com> > > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week > so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel > and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc > told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and > then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of > packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 The compounds in Androgel that facilitates the transport of testosterone into the skin are alcohol and isopropyl myristate. The alcohol evaporates fairly quickly as you know, but the second ingredient, often found in hand creams and hair conditioners, stays on your skin a lot longer. It's a liquid at room temperature but has a very low vapor pressure which means it doesn't evaporate very much at all, thus leaving transferable testosterone on your skin. From: andrenym007 <no_reply > Subject: Re: Androgel Packets Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 3:25 PM  I started again this morning with the 5g packets. Crossing my fingers. I accidentally got some on my face and neck, no big deal right? > > > > > > From: andrenym007 <no_reply@group s.com> > > Subject: Androgel Packets > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 8:41 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > O so I had a bad reaction to androgel last week so I stopped. I'm thinking now that maybe it wasnt the gel and it was my thyroid meds which were adjusted? Anyway doc told me to start with half a packet and see how I feel and then after a week go up to full packet. Will other half of packet be ok the next day as far as it spoiling or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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