Is it normal for the TRT dose to increase after some time?

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I am using compounded cream (10%) for close to 5 years; before I was in Androgel

for about 3 years. Lately, in the last 2 or 3 tubes, I have been noticing some

decline in my overall being regarding what I call T related symptoms - lack of

morning wood, declined libido, energy, increase apathy.

My last T result showed levels just below 600 when in the same dose, I used to

have them around 800. These results were from a blood sample taken 2 hours

after application of the cream. My E2 was around 22.

The doctor suggested I may need an increase in dose.

Any comments would be appreciated?

Flaco.

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Your not supposed to take a blood test after you apply cream. You should do it

before you apply and the night before or morning of you should take a good

shower and make sure you clean good where the doc takes your blood. Those

numbers are most likely off and probably alot lower than 600. If you do take

blood after application you should wait at least 6 hours.

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> I am using compounded cream (10%) for close to 5 years; before I was in

Androgel for about 3 years. Lately, in the last 2 or 3 tubes, I have been

noticing some decline in my overall being regarding what I call T related

symptoms - lack of morning wood, declined libido, energy, increase apathy.

>

> My last T result showed levels just below 600 when in the same dose, I used to

have them around 800. These results were from a blood sample taken 2 hours

after application of the cream. My E2 was around 22.

>

> The doctor suggested I may need an increase in dose.

>

> Any comments would be appreciated?

>

> Flaco.

>

[Guest guest]

My dose is around 0.3 to 0.35 ml twice a day. If I used 0.35 for more than 4

consecutive doses, I got very moody; that is why I always tailored my doses

between those 2 values. I got it to a system that would give me a T value

around 800 with no mood swings.

Right now, I have been using 0.35 for the past week and my T symptoms are not

even close to what they normally were.

Since I have been on TRT for a long time, my values should not oscillate that

much. And I know for a fact that my morning value was around 450 prior to

applying the cream since I did that test twice to see how low I was right before

applying the cream.

My main concern is that I do not feel the same even with my upper dose.

I know I could increase my dose 0.05 ml at a time for 5 days at a time and see

what happens. I know my body well enough to be able to tell if I go too far.

I just wanted to know if it is normal for the dose to increase with time; even

though I have been very consistent for a long time. Androgel was the 5 ml

packet once a day for about 3 years. Then the compounded T for about 5 years at

the same dose (which is about 7.5 to 7.75 ml of Androgel).

So, is it time for a dose increase?

Of course, I will see my doctor after I feel I have tailored the dose properly

to ensure the levels are back to normal and nothing else gets out of whack!

Thanks!

Flaco

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> > I am using compounded cream (10%) for close to 5 years; before I was in

Androgel for about 3 years. Lately, in the last 2 or 3 tubes, I have been

noticing some decline in my overall being regarding what I call T related

symptoms - lack of morning wood, declined libido, energy, increase apathy.

> >

> > My last T result showed levels just below 600 when in the same dose, I used

to have them around 800. These results were from a blood sample taken 2 hours

after application of the cream. My E2 was around 22.

> >

> > The doctor suggested I may need an increase in dose.

> >

> > Any comments would be appreciated?

> >

> > Flaco.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Flaco,

What happens to most of us after a time on gels and creams they stop working

don't get through the skin. Switch to Test C shots starting at 100 mgs / wk.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: rndchemist <no_reply >

> Subject: Is it normal for the TRT dose to increase after some

time?

>

> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:04 PM

> I am using compounded cream (10%) for

> close to 5 years; before I was in Androgel for about 3

> years.  Lately, in the last 2 or 3 tubes, I have been

> noticing some decline in my overall being regarding what I

> call T related symptoms - lack of morning wood, declined

> libido, energy, increase apathy. 

>

> My last T result showed levels just below 600 when in the

> same dose, I used to have them around 800.  These

> results were from a blood sample taken 2 hours after

> application of the cream.  My E2 was around 22.

>

> The doctor suggested I may need an increase in dose.

>

> Any comments would be appreciated?

>

> Flaco.

>

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[Guest guest]

Phil:

Thanks! I was afraid of that. I will wait and see if slowly increasing my dose

I get better response.

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> > From: rndchemist <no_reply >

> > Subject: Is it normal for the TRT dose to increase after some

time?

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:04 PM

> > I am using compounded cream (10%) for

> > close to 5 years; before I was in Androgel for about 3

> > years.  Lately, in the last 2 or 3 tubes, I have been

> > noticing some decline in my overall being regarding what I

> > call T related symptoms - lack of morning wood, declined

> > libido, energy, increase apathy. 

> >

> > My last T result showed levels just below 600 when in the

> > same dose, I used to have them around 800.  These

> > results were from a blood sample taken 2 hours after

> > application of the cream.  My E2 was around 22.

> >

> > The doctor suggested I may need an increase in dose.

> >

> > Any comments would be appreciated?

> >

> > Flaco.

> >

> >

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