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[Guest guest]

,

This is a bit like handing someone an encyclopedia and asking them to

explain it all. The thyroid numbers (FT3 and TSH) are especially

problematic without the stated reference ranges. These vary from lab to

lab and especially between countries. I suggest we just focus on the

thyroid indicators or those your doctor may have talked about.

Otherwise, this seems to be a list of fairly normal indicators.

If you Google blood tests, you can find out what all the acronyms mean

and what the usual ranges are.

Chuck

You wrote:

>

>

> my daughter who is almost 12 had her thyroid test done and they also

> ran some test to see why she is so short. dose any body understand

> any of these results.

>

> free t4: 1.36 ng/dl-normal rbc morphology: normal

> tsh:0.202 ulu/ml-normal platelet: 364 k/ul

> igf-1: 149 ng/ml-low-normal diff method: automated diff

> igfbp-2:-pending monos(abs): 0.77 k/ul

> igbfp-3: 4.10 mg/l-normal lymps(abs): 2.07 k/ul

> na: 140 mmol/L-normal eos(abs): 0.44 k/ul

> cl: 103 mmol/L basos(abs): 0.09 k/ul

> Glucose: 105 mg/dl platelet est: adq

> bun: 18 mg/dl

> alb: 4.3 g/dl

> sq epi cells:<1

> triple phos cry: occ

> wbc: 7.73 k/ul

> hgb: 13.8 g/dl

> mcv: 86.9 fl

> k: 4.2 mmol/l

> co2: 26 mmol/l

> ca: 9.4 mg/dl

> phos: 3.9 mg/dl

> creat: 0.5 mg/dl

> rbc: 4.74 m/ul

> hct: 41.2%

> mch: 29.1 pg

> mchc: 33.5 g/dl

> monos: 10.0%

> lymphs: 26.8%

> neutrophil: 56.4%

> eos: 5.7%

> basos; 1.1%

>

> I am sorry this is so long but can any under stand this.

> thanks.

> stephanie

>

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Vivek,

Your message from Dec 22 just arrived. Must be a server glitch somewhere.

You wrote:

>

> T3 free 2.56 T4 free 0.7 but TSH was very high 57.

>

> My Doctor advised me to take Tab Thyrox 50 for first 3 weeks and then

> switch to Thyrox 100.

> I have been taking Thyrox 50 for last 20 days.I felt very good in

> starting but now again I feel very Slow (mind).

That is the normal effect of the titration. You won't stabilize until

the dose is properly adjusted. Thyrox is a brand name for levothyroxine,

which many of us on the list take. IIRC, it is the second or third most

prescribed medication worldwide.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Nothing to say but you are in a very tough situation. I feel for you. I

have pain and it always causes pain in a relationship – you get crabby when

it hurts and mad cause no one is helping etc. but not like that. I have a

friend that married someone with many back/leg/knee issues that got WAY

worse right after they are married. He is now in a wheelchair and the meds

are the only thing that makes his life bearable ….barely. I don’t know how

she does it.

jp

Help

Hi, my husband has had a bad back almost his whole life, he's had

fusions on his lower back and neck, a laminectomy, herniated disks and

was recently diagnosed with degenerative disk disease. He's in pain

all the time. I feel horrible to see him in pain however the narcotic

medications the doctors have given him are destroying our marriage. I

have two young children and I'm afraid to leave them alone with their

own father as he has passed out from medication with the stove on or a

cigarette in his hand. He's tried to limit the meds, but when the

pain is too much, he can't stop himself. I can't stand having a

relationship with someone who is out of it so often and undependable

because of it. Has anyone dealt with these issues or have any advice?

His newest doctor is recommending a nerve blocking electrical device,

but in the mean time they just keep giving him one narcotic after

another. Help!

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>

> hi

>

> 3 days on diet and 1st 2 i felt better - much less joint pain but

today ouch everything hurts. i had to take a tyl 3 just now as the pain

and burning is awful. is this a healing reaction?

==>Yes, , it is a healing reaction caused by candida dying off

(die-off symptoms) because it puts out a lot of toxins which the body

has to get rid of. Healing naturally is not a steady uphill climb; it

has its Ups and Downs. Eventually your good days will increase and

your bad days will decrease. Don't try to rush things however. Take

epsom salt baths to ease your pain, and also do other things

recommended in my article to help your body detoxify, i.e. dry skin

brushing, coffee enemas, electrolyte drink, etc. Hang in there girl!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear of your struggles and you are in my prayers (don't know if

that is allowed here but let's say non-denominational prayer so I don't offend

anyone).

I know folks that have been transplanted and are out living, riding motorcycles,

enjoying life -- these are folks with HCV or had HCV. The virus universally

returns after transplant so your husband will have to treat it. The good news

is there are very many drugs in clinical trials that offer the promise of

shorter treatment times with more effective results. Being on interferon and

ribavirin for a long time isn't benign anymore than being on Prednisone and

Imuran for a long time is. We all pay a price right?

There are a lot of HCV forums around. Try one of them and I think you can get

the support you need. I don't post at any of them with any regularity but some

good ones are the Hepatitis C Association's ~Voices~ and there is quite and

informative one over at Janis and Friends.

http://www.hepcassoc.org/messbrd/index.php

http://janis7hepc.com/

There are lots of kooky ones too with people promising fake cures.

Let me ask you something, if it isn't too personal: how far along is he? Does

he need a liver? I know he is on the transplant list but I am asking another

question without trying to sound like I am second guessing the doctor(s). Has

he treated for HCV? Is he on a maintenance dose of peginterferon and if not why

not? It can stave off further degeneration and buy time. Is he taking

lactulose? He should be and run it by the doctor(s) for the following reasons.

The following comes from one of the smartest researchers working at a lab I know

who deals with tests for HAV, HCV, HBV, HIV etc. and this guy has helped

developed the PCR for various diseases. In other words, he's a genius. I can't

give his name out for obvious reasons. Run this by your doctor. Is the doctor

a hepatologist? I am not trying to come off rude or second guess anyone but too

often I've seen doctors reduce dosages of medications rather than intervene with

Neupogen (for low WBC) and Procrit (for low RBC, despite the recent warnings

this can be used and should be used).

Please let me know what he says and you can email me off the list if you want.

I have been studying hepatitis intently for fives years and I don't know a lot

but I do know a little.

My sister-in-law recently went into liver failure, due to alcoholic hepatitis,

and she is also on the list but now they are questioning whether she even needs

a transplant or her liver, absent the booze, can heal itself.

Whether or not cirrhosis can be reversed is an open question/debate in science.

The material I've seen says yes, early cirrhosis can be.

" Elevated ammonia levels in the setting of cirrhosis are the result of the

reduced capacity of the liver to convert the ammonia produced by the intestinal

bacteria from protein remnants in the food to urea, which is non toxic to our

metabolism and can be excreted efficiently in the kidneys. Ammonia (and some

other ill defined toxic byproducts of intestinal bacteria metabolism) is

particular toxic to the brain and can cause, at first, mild subclinical

encephalopathy as is often seen even in compensated cirrhosis using sensitive

psychometric testing. At higher levels it can cause acute hepatic

encephalopathy, which is one of the deadly acute complications of cirrhosis. It

is treated with high dose lactulose, which has the effect to reduce the number

of ammonia producing intestinal flora in favor of lactulose (a non absorbable

harmless, nontoxic sugar, available OTC in Canada and Europe for laxative

purposes) utilizing bacteria, that are harmless and do not produce ammonia. This

is a life saving treatment. There is little reason not to use lactulose as a

preventative probiotic treatment for anyone with liver problems. "

[Guest guest]

Thank you for responding to my request. You seem knowledgeable in so many areas.

Thanks for the links, I'll check them out. I certainly don't mind answering

your questions, it

helps to talk about it. My husband has end stage liver disease(from an unknown

exposure)

and he does need a transplant. He does not drink and has never used drugs. He

is not a candidate for interferon, and yes he see's a hepatologist. We are VERY

familiar with lactulose and encephalopathy, Not to mention ascites and gastric

varices.Our doctor has him using a drug (xifaxan) which address's the intestinal

bacteria and does not have the same side effect as lactulose which is a

blessing, if you know what lactulose does to a person. I have watched my 175 lb

masters level therapist husband shrink down to a 145 lb disabled patient. Sorry

about the whining and I appreciate your prayers. Debi

Gaulke <scott_gaulke@...> wrote:

I'm sorry to hear of your struggles and you are in my prayers (don't

know if that is allowed here but let's say non-denominational prayer so I don't

offend anyone).

I know folks that have been transplanted and are out living, riding motorcycles,

enjoying life -- these are folks with HCV or had HCV. The virus universally

returns after transplant so your husband will have to treat it. The good news is

there are very many drugs in clinical trials that offer the promise of shorter

treatment times with more effective results. Being on interferon and ribavirin

for a long time isn't benign anymore than being on Prednisone and Imuran for a

long time is. We all pay a price right?

There are a lot of HCV forums around. Try one of them and I think you can get

the support you need. I don't post at any of them with any regularity but some

good ones are the Hepatitis C Association's ~Voices~ and there is quite and

informative one over at Janis and Friends.

http://www.hepcassoc.org/messbrd/index.php

http://janis7hepc.com/

There are lots of kooky ones too with people promising fake cures.

Let me ask you something, if it isn't too personal: how far along is he? Does he

need a liver? I know he is on the transplant list but I am asking another

question without trying to sound like I am second guessing the doctor(s). Has he

treated for HCV? Is he on a maintenance dose of peginterferon and if not why

not? It can stave off further degeneration and buy time. Is he taking lactulose?

He should be and run it by the doctor(s) for the following reasons. The

following comes from one of the smartest researchers working at a lab I know who

deals with tests for HAV, HCV, HBV, HIV etc. and this guy has helped developed

the PCR for various diseases. In other words, he's a genius. I can't give his

name out for obvious reasons. Run this by your doctor. Is the doctor a

hepatologist? I am not trying to come off rude or second guess anyone but too

often I've seen doctors reduce dosages of medications rather than intervene with

Neupogen (for low WBC) and Procrit (for low RBC,

despite the recent warnings this can be used and should be used).

Please let me know what he says and you can email me off the list if you want. I

have been studying hepatitis intently for fives years and I don't know a lot but

I do know a little.

My sister-in-law recently went into liver failure, due to alcoholic hepatitis,

and she is also on the list but now they are questioning whether she even needs

a transplant or her liver, absent the booze, can heal itself.

Whether or not cirrhosis can be reversed is an open question/debate in science.

The material I've seen says yes, early cirrhosis can be.

" Elevated ammonia levels in the setting of cirrhosis are the result of the

reduced capacity of the liver to convert the ammonia produced by the intestinal

bacteria from protein remnants in the food to urea, which is non toxic to our

metabolism and can be excreted efficiently in the kidneys. Ammonia (and some

other ill defined toxic byproducts of intestinal bacteria metabolism) is

particular toxic to the brain and can cause, at first, mild subclinical

encephalopathy as is often seen even in compensated cirrhosis using sensitive

psychometric testing. At higher levels it can cause acute hepatic

encephalopathy, which is one of the deadly acute complications of cirrhosis. It

is treated with high dose lactulose, which has the effect to reduce the number

of ammonia producing intestinal flora in favor of lactulose (a non absorbable

harmless, nontoxic sugar, available OTC in Canada and Europe for laxative

purposes) utilizing bacteria, that are harmless and do not produce ammonia.

This is a life saving treatment. There is little reason not to use lactulose as

a preventative probiotic treatment for anyone with liver problems. "

[Guest guest]

Best wishes to you and your husband, Debi.

Harper

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I didn't know lactulose had side effects. What are they?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I guess I miss spoke (in regard to lactulose) I said " side effect " I meant

" effect " . Which is

debilitating diarrhea, until you get the dose correct.Debi

Gaulke <scott_gaulke@...> wrote:

I didn't know lactulose had side effects. What are they?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I guess I miss spoke (in regard to lactulose) I said " side effect " I meant

" effect " . Which is

debilitating diarrhea, until you get the dose correct.Debi

-----------------

Well, without getting too personal I already have diarrhea but it isn't

debilitating yet! My super-genius researcher gives it to his kid for breakfast

so he must know the right dose?

Hope you're doing fine and thanks to the post(s).

[Guest guest]

How much do you take daily? Are you taking it to ward of encephalopathy? Have

you heard of Xifanan? It absolutely keeps my husband free of encephalopathy. Why

would your friend give it to his kid? Does he have a liver disease or just to

keep him regular? Not to be too personal. Debi

Gaulke <scott_gaulke@...> wrote: Hi ,

I guess I miss spoke (in regard to lactulose) I said " side effect " I meant

" effect " . Which is

debilitating diarrhea, until you get the dose correct.Debi

-----------------

Well, without getting too personal I already have diarrhea but it isn't

debilitating yet! My super-genius researcher gives it to his kid for breakfast

so he must know the right dose?

Hope you're doing fine and thanks to the post(s).

[Guest guest]

Hey Relax, When I was pregnant I had low blood sugar too. Especially when i

was in my first trimester. What helped allot was munching on almonds though out

the day. They naturally stabilize your blood sugar. I also made sure I snacked

though out the day on slices of cheese, whole grain crackers and small amounts

of fruit(like 1/2 apple or 1/2 of a banana). the thing that worked the best was

the almonds. Good luck.

Cassandra VanKeuren

Stuck <Sstuck@...> wrote: I just found out Ia m about 6 weeks pg and my

sugar is low. I don't eat sugar and theya re going to want to do the soda drink

with me to see how my pancerase is and put ne on a different diet and such. i

think I hadn't eaten when my blood was taken so ofcourse it would be low. I had

gd with my first twp atthe end. this has already been much different then my

girls I am scared I am going to end up with it perminatly.

I go to the doctor next Friday. for the ultra sound and such. should be

interesting.

Stuck

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hello jennifer, i'm susan, i know how you feel. i have systemic candida which

is so bad that i have a brain lesion, fatty liver, diabetes and high

cholesterol, i suffered for over 10 years and thought i was going to die. please

keep

up the diet, you don't want to be sick like me. use stevia instead of sugar,

it's great and it's even better than sugar. i love salads and even adding

salmon or roast beef to it is wonderful. a few days ago there was a link to a

website on the candida group for a " miracle " pasta that has no carbs,

sugar

or calories. i will email this to you. i wish you all the best, love, susan

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>

> I've been on the anti-candida diet for 8 days now. I had sugar

> cravings during this time but none that top the one I'm having today.

> I made a beef roast which I was looking so forward to eating and I

> overcooked it. That event triggered emotions and I have been crying

> ever since. I don't want anything else to eat today except a

chocolate sundae. I believe in the reasons I am on this diet, tho. I

feel very alone in this and very weak. It's hard to believe in the

reasons while I'm feeling like this. I'm very upset (still crying) and

looking for support, encouragement, information, any response, really.

Thank you.

==>Hi . Congratulations on following the diet for 8 days.

Well done my friend! It isn't easy. Sometimes when you are trying so

hard such an event can trigger a flood of emotions and the first thing

we think of is comfort foods. Cravings created by candida are not a

sign of weakness, it's part of the illness which is tough to overcome.

Crying is sometimes very healing because it releases pent up emotions.

Go with the flow and and just know that " this too shall pass " .

==>In the meantime pamper yourself by taking a nice hot Epsom salts

bath. The magnesium in it will help you relax and it helps pull toxins

out of your body. Also do deep breathing exercises which switches off

adrenaline: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_4_1.php

==>One of the easiest things to do when you feel so bad is to do this

for 15 minutes every day. Lie on the floor with your feet on a chair so

your thighs are at a right angle to the seat of the chair and the

calves of your legs are lying across the seat of the chair. It is as

simple as that.

==>Hang in there . We're here for you!

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

--- " jennifer.chicago " <jennifer.chicago@...>

wrote:

> I've been on the anti-candida diet for 8 days now. I

> had sugar

> cravings during this time but none that top the one

> I'm having today.

> I made a beef roast which I was looking so forward

> to eating and I

> overcooked it.

To get through sugar cravings I eat more of the food

that is allowed on this diet and make myself full from

those and it helps me feel like I don't have room for

anything else.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

-------------

To be myself is to say what I mean, make decisions without fear, and

give up pleasing people just to gain approval.

Most people won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the pain of

change. Being willing to delay pleasure for a greater result is a sign of

maturity. -- Dave Ramsey

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Bee ~

Thank you for your response. It helps a lot. In the past I wasn't able to take

baths with any kind of bubble bath or oil, etc. because anything besides plain

water caused my (vaginal) yeast infection (which I believe I've always had

lingering) to worsen. I just want to make sure Epsom Salt won't do the same. Can

you confirm? Thanks!!!

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> I've been on the anti-candida diet for 8 days now. I had sugar

> cravings during this time but none that top the one I'm having today.

> I made a beef roast which I was looking so forward to eating and I

> overcooked it. That event triggered emotions and I have been crying

> ever since. I don't want anything else to eat today except a

chocolate sundae. I believe in the reasons I am on this diet, tho. I

feel very alone in this and very weak. It's hard to believe in the

reasons while I'm feeling like this. I'm very upset (still crying) and

looking for support, encouragement, information, any response, really.

Thank you.

==>Hi . Congratulations on following the diet for 8 days.

Well done my friend! It isn't easy. Sometimes when you are trying so

hard such an event can trigger a flood of emotions and the first thing

we think of is comfort foods. Cravings created by candida are not a

sign of weakness, it's part of the illness which is tough to overcome.

Crying is sometimes very healing because it releases pent up emotions.

Go with the flow and and just know that " this too shall pass " .

==>In the meantime pamper yourself by taking a nice hot Epsom salts

bath. The magnesium in it will help you relax and it helps pull toxins

out of your body. Also do deep breathing exercises which switches off

adrenaline: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_4_1.php

==>One of the easiest things to do when you feel so bad is to do this

for 15 minutes every day. Lie on the floor with your feet on a chair so

your thighs are at a right angle to the seat of the chair and the

calves of your legs are lying across the seat of the chair. It is as

simple as that.

==>Hang in there . We're here for you!

Luv & Hugs, Bee

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[Guest guest]

Debby ~

Thank you!! Nice saying below.

~

Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

--- " jennifer.chicago " <jennifer.chicago@...>

wrote:

> I've been on the anti-candida diet for 8 days now. I

> had sugar

> cravings during this time but none that top the one

> I'm having today.

> I made a beef roast which I was looking so forward

> to eating and I

> overcooked it.

To get through sugar cravings I eat more of the food

that is allowed on this diet and make myself full from

those and it helps me feel like I don't have room for

anything else.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

-------------

To be myself is to say what I mean, make decisions without fear, and

give up pleasing people just to gain approval.

Most people won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the pain of

change. Being willing to delay pleasure for a greater result is a sign of

maturity. -- Dave Ramsey

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Autos.

---------------------------------

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~

Thank you so much. I'm sorry to hear you have systemic. I have read about it

and it is not pretty. Glad you're on this diet! Thanks also for the food tips

and will look forward to the pasta information.

~

onespookygal@... wrote:

hello jennifer, i'm susan, i know how you feel. i have systemic

candida which

is so bad that i have a brain lesion, fatty liver, diabetes and high

cholesterol, i suffered for over 10 years and thought i was going to die. please

keep

up the diet, you don't want to be sick like me. use stevia instead of sugar,

it's great and it's even better than sugar. i love salads and even adding

salmon or roast beef to it is wonderful. a few days ago there was a link to a

website on the candida group for a " miracle " pasta that has no carbs,

sugar

or calories. i will email this to you. i wish you all the best, love, susan

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee ~

>

> Thank you for your response. It helps a lot. In the past I wasn't

able to take baths with any kind of bubble bath or oil, etc. because

anything besides plain water caused my (vaginal) yeast infection

(which I believe I've always had lingering) to worsen. I just want to

make sure Epsom Salt won't do the same. Can you confirm? Thanks!!!

==>Hi . Epsom salts will help vaginal yeast. Baking soda and

Epsom salts are good too (mix 50/50 in a cup).

Bee

[Guest guest]

The only exam in California is the one given by PTCB. Go to www.ptcb.org

to find the dates and sites.

Fred

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jigna shah

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:55 PM

Subject: help

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org> > wrote: From my

perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

________________________________

From:

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[mailto:

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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Hi Fred

Thank you very much for your co-operation.

Which book I have to refer for the preparation of exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...> wrote:

The only exam in California is the one given by PTCB. Go to

www.ptcb.org

to find the dates and sites.

Fred

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jigna shah

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:55 PM

Subject: help

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org> > wrote: From my

perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

________________________________

From:

<mailto:%40>

[mailto:

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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Okay the plot " sickens " even more.

I teach in California and I am a real stickler for the exact definitions so

that student grads like Irena ( she is not my grad to my knowledge) do not get

further confused.

To be registered in Ca you MUST either

1. have proof of passing PTCB and be a current CPhT

OR

2. haver graduated from an approved state accredited pharm tech

program/school.

NOW to be a state approved/accredited PROGRAM/school, the program or school

MUST have a final exam that meets the state criteria, thus taking the place of

a state exam.

So in essence to be a tech in CA you must taket the PTCB exam or complete a

state approved pharm tech program; which includes the passing of a final test.

Certifciation is refering to the passing of PTCB exam and becoming a certified

pharmacy technician.

Registration is refering to the process of becoming a person who is on a list

of people who are deemed qualified to practice as a pharmacy technician (in

CA).

Registration comes under the licensing of Consumer Affairs' state board of

pharmacy. the registration looks identical to licenses for Registered

pharmacists and cosmetologists (hairdressers), except it will have the word

'registration' instead of license.

License implies a universal state exam was given and passed. Such as a

licensed pharmacist or licensed nurse.

Techs are not licensed or certified IN California, but may be certified by

PTCB and this certification can be used to qualify one to be registered in

order to work as a tech in CA.

Hope this helps you Irena,

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner of this site

Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...> wrote:

The only exam in California is the one given by PTCB. Go to www.ptcb.org

to find the dates and sites.

Fred

________________________________

From:

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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:55 PM

Subject: help

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org> > wrote: From my

perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

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Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

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Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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Hi jigna shah,

Please go to the files section and find the study guide book list that I have

placed there. It will help you to review the books that are out there.

Any one or two on the list is great and will help you along with the tutorials

on this site and this site message board.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator

Founder/Owner of this site

jigna shah <jigu_14_80@...> wrote:

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...> wrote:

From my perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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Dear Jigna Shah,

Also by now as a new member much has been emailed automatically to you

to get you started.

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

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Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

Hi jigna shah,

Please go to the files section and find the study guide book list that I have

placed there. It will help you to review the books that are out there.

Any one or two on the list is great and will help you along with the

tutorials on this site and this site message board.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Pharm Tech Educator

Founder/Owner of this site

jigna shah <jigu_14_80@...> wrote:

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...> wrote:

From my perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

________________________________

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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There are a couple of books I like, Jigna. Check on Joe Medina's book

and info by going to Tech Lectures:

New Tech Lectures email address: joemedina@...

<mailto:joemedina@...>

You can also try Noah Riefman's book, which is available at

www.pharmacytechnician.com

Also, Jeanetta always has great info and help on this chat group site.

Fred

________________________________

From:

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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:46 PM

Subject: RE: help

Hi Fred

Thank you very much for your co-operation.

Which book I have to refer for the preparation of exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org> > wrote:

The only exam in California is the one given by PTCB. Go to www.ptcb.org

to find the dates and sites.

Fred

________________________________

From:

<mailto:%40>

[mailto:

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of jigna

shah

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:55 PM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: help

Hi

Can you help me? I wants to appear for the pharmacy technician exam in

California. what are the procedure for that?

And which book is helpful for me for the preparation of the Pharmacy

technician exam?

Jigna

" Shackelford, Fred " <fred.shackelford@...

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org>

<mailto:fred.shackelford%40methodisthospital.org> > wrote: From my

perspective, there is no real difference in California. I work

in California. The terms are used interchangeably by most Pharmacy

people here. I heard a talk from a pharmacist/lawyer a few years ago. He

claimed that the way the law is interpreted in California, being

" registered " is the same as being " certified " . The official word in the

law book is " registered " .

Fred

________________________________

From:

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

[mailto:

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

Gingers

Garden

Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:29 PM

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:%40>

Subject: Licensed vs certified?

Hello,

I am in California and just about done with school. I have my final

next week. Would someone kindly explain to me what is the difference

between being licensed vs certified?

Thanks,

Irena

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