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[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I took two sleeping pills and finally fell asleep around 5:30, then slept

practically all day. I'm trying to get out of this cycle, its sooooooooo

depressing. Luckily my husband got my son off to school this morning, but

hubby is out of town for the next 7 days, so I have to find a way to stay

awake until 6:30. What do you do? Do you end up sleeping all day too?

Sometimes I wake up and think, well what's the sense in getting up, I really

can't do anything. I'm hoping the antidepressants kick in, but I have a

feeling they are what is causing this insomnia to be worse then usual.

Anyway, I'm sending another picture, hope you have room for them. Take care.

Vicki

I sent you the waterfalls already, right?

Re: [Lyme-aid] Help

From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca)

Thanks Vicki,

I hope you finally fell asleep..

I did finally..On the couch..

But now I am up again..Oh well,I am going to try to make to the bedroom!

You know this has got to be the nicest list out there...

IWish there was something I could do for the rest of ya!!

You guys are really great..

God Bless..

Amy

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Vicki,

I cannot open the ppt form of pics...

Yes I feel like sleeping all day when I can`t sleep!!LOL!!

I do the same thing,lie awake and think,or I wake up and start

thinking..

I have several different videos that are pretty reliable to put me to

sleep,bad thing is I wake up when they are over....

I don`t think you are supposed to mix with anti depressants,but I take

St s Wort and Kava..

Haven`t been taking them lately,but they both really good...

St s Wort for depression,and Kava for reslessness and anxiety....

I highly reccomend them both,have you ever used either?

You need to use the right brands and strengths though...

Amy

[Guest guest]

Yes I've tried the St. 's wart and was about to get Kava, but I'm going

broke and my doctor said " why not let me prescribe you something that does

the same thing, and will cost you less due to medical insurance " , so I went

for the sleeping aid - Ambien, and an anti-depressant, can't remember the

name, but its a new one that is really supposed to help both serotonin and

the other (brain cramp here) main , I think it dopamine. Which is unusual

for an antidepressant, most only deal with one. I've only been on them for

10 days, so I don't know if they are working yet or not. Anyway sorry I

sent the wrong picture format, I'll try again. I took an Ambien one hour ago

and drank a cup of Sweet Dreams tea, which really mellows me out,but I'm not

tired yet, just bad brain fog and dizziness, which I guess forces you to

bed - but sleep? I doubt. Anyway Here's to us sleeping!!!

Vicki

Re: [Lyme-aid] Help

From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca)

Vicki,

I cannot open the ppt form of pics...

Yes I feel like sleeping all day when I can`t sleep!!LOL!!

I do the same thing,lie awake and think,or I wake up and start

thinking..

I have several different videos that are pretty reliable to put me to

sleep,bad thing is I wake up when they are over....

I don`t think you are supposed to mix with anti depressants,but I take

St s Wort and Kava..

Haven`t been taking them lately,but they both really good...

St s Wort for depression,and Kava for reslessness and anxiety....

I highly reccomend them both,have you ever used either?

You need to use the right brands and strengths though...

Amy

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Vicki,

Send that pic to chorse001@... please..

That is my other address and my mailbox on this thing is tine..

I have so much saved in here already...

I joined the collidial silver list also and now I have to check my mail

every couple hrs or it fills up..

I really reccomend the Kava..

I have had really severe anxiety attacks in the past and it has even

helped with those..

I don`t like what the sleeping pills do and how they make you feel the

next day.

Never had any of that with Kava...

About to get one of my boring movies out now!<L>

I feel tired until I lay down....

Maybe I should get some housework done??

Yeah right...

Amy

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In a message dated 09/22/1999 1:18:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ferraroa@... writes:

<< I've tried the St. 's wart and was about to get Kava >>

Vicki: I just wanted to comment that the two compounds you mentioned are for

" opposite " conditions. The St. 's wort is for depression and the Kava is

for anxiety, Are you suffering from BOTH simultaneously or were you confused

as to the purpose of taking these two products ? I truly believe in natural

supplements but am concerned that sometimes we do not really know what their

functions are. Mona

[Guest guest]

Hello Group...

I am going to have to take a break for awhile to work on my health. I will

be back...Bless you all...

Hugs...Byron

Re: [Lyme-aid] Help

>From: RMcmur3194@...

>

>yes it is possible to suffer from both anxiety and depression at the same

>time.....

>and is quite common with lyme and other chronic ilness's according to my

>shrink.....i am on meds for both....by the way i had another letter to the

>editor published today .....concerning the targeting of my county by skb

for

>lymerix.....they have been running some very disturbing ads lately playing

on

>fear and hysteria.....full pages .....i am really suprised the paper

printed

>my rebuttal against a big advertiser but they did.......come on

people.....we

>need to continue to educate and keep lyme disease on the fore front.....if

we

>ever hope to be helped....

>Reid

>

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[Guest guest]

Mona,

That can be true..

But I have taken Kava and Sts Wort together for years..

Trust me you can have anxiety and depression together.

In fact it is a awful combonation..

Amy

[Guest guest]

Mona,

Thanks Mona, yeah my doctor told me Kava would help me sleep. I think I'm

only depressed because I so tired of being sick and feel like I'm not trying

hard enough, you know the guilt thing, then I get stressed out because of

not working, but I don't think I have anxiety attacks, so I guess I don't

need Kava, I was looking for something to help me sleep, the Ambien doesn't

work very well unless I'm already exhausted. Thanks for the input.

Vicki

Re: [ ] Help

>From: WISHXXX@...

>

>In a message dated 09/22/1999 1:18:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>ferraroa@... writes:

>

><< I've tried the St. 's wart and was about to get Kava >>

>

>Vicki: I just wanted to comment that the two compounds you mentioned are

for

> " opposite " conditions. The St. 's wort is for depression and the Kava

is

>for anxiety, Are you suffering from BOTH simultaneously or were you

confused

>as to the purpose of taking these two products ? I truly believe in

natural

>supplements but am concerned that sometimes we do not really know what

their

>functions are. Mona

>

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[Guest guest]

lovette,

i hate very little but most of all i hate when people say cure and lyme in

the same breath......there is NO CURE TO LYME......the best we can hope for

is remission....i have been there and back unfourtunatly i did not appreciate

my remission as i thought i was cured .....how could i have been so

wrong.....while everyone may not follow my pattern .....when " it(lyme " ) "

came back it was worse then it had ever been......my feeling ...and as most

of u know i try to keep positive is there is no cure....and the best we can

hope for is remission......when and if lyme returns we should make the most

out of every day....especially the " good days " as they can be few and far

between......while i hope for a cure for all......i cannot personally think

that i will ever release the binds of lyme.......even if my spiros all

finally are killed off....the remedial effects of my disease will always

haunt me ...so i am ready to live my life to the fullest with the few

resources i have left ......live for today......as i do not know waht

tomor4row brings and worrying about it wil only ruin todays moment....

between the weather.....granpas funeral...etr al....i am shot today ....but

the alternative(death ) is not an option for me today....so i shall trudge

thru what ggo has given me grastefullu.....for the newer lymies ....this does

not HAVE TO BE U.....fight to get treatment....and continue to fight ...by

being mis(un) dx'ed for three years this is where i have landed ......make

sure u do not......love to all....ur opinunated friend....Reid

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Ried,

I remember my first remission this past June - I too thought wow I'm cured!

That was only after six months of anbx, (went at least five years

misdiagnosed). Then when I got hit with it just two months later (my doctor

took me off of anbx's) I got so angry and depressed. That's when my doctor

put me on Zoloft, but when I read that it affects Libido, I said forget it!

Then finally just gave in, but he is giving me Effexor. Today was only day

14 so I don't know if its working yet. But I refuse to have to be on it

forever, I'm just trying to show my doctor that I'm trying every thing I can

to get better and take his advice. Is your wife still mad at you? Hope you

have a few good days in a row coming up for you, sounds like you are due.

Take care

Vicki

Re: [Lyme-aid] Help

>From: RMcmur3194@...

>

>lovette,

>i hate very little but most of all i hate when people say cure and lyme in

>the same breath......there is NO CURE TO LYME......the best we can hope for

>is remission....i have been there and back unfourtunatly i did not

appreciate

>my remission as i thought i was cured .....how could i have been so

>wrong.....while everyone may not follow my pattern .....when " it(lyme " ) "

>came back it was worse then it had ever been......my feeling ...and as most

>of u know i try to keep positive is there is no cure....and the best we can

>hope for is remission......when and if lyme returns we should make the most

>out of every day....especially the " good days " as they can be few and far

>between......while i hope for a cure for all......i cannot personally think

>that i will ever release the binds of lyme.......even if my spiros all

>finally are killed off....the remedial effects of my disease will always

>haunt me ...so i am ready to live my life to the fullest with the few

>resources i have left ......live for today......as i do not know waht

>tomor4row brings and worrying about it wil only ruin todays moment....

>between the weather.....granpas funeral...etr al....i am shot today ....but

>the alternative(death ) is not an option for me today....so i shall trudge

>thru what ggo has given me grastefullu.....for the newer lymies ....this

does

>not HAVE TO BE U.....fight to get treatment....and continue to fight ...by

>being mis(un) dx'ed for three years this is where i have landed ......make

>sure u do not......love to all....ur opinunated friend....Reid

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Sharon,

I am glad Celexa doesn't effect your libido..but it sure does mine...and it

is miserable. But I still find pleasure in knowing my husband is happy.

Sigh.....

Cyntha landon Idaho

[Lyme-aid] help

> From: " melillo " <mellillo1@...>

>

> Vicki,I have an Italian husband also and know exactly what you are talking

> about! They are true gems, not that others arent, we could certainly talk

> more about that! Such sensitive men, we are blessed.

> One good thing about the Celexa, my antidepressant, is that my libido is

not

> as affected, in fact things have been much better in that department.

But,

> as I have written before, I still hurt the next day and feel sick to my

> stomach. Poor guy, " you make me sick! " ... I would never say that and try

to

> hide it.

> One word of caution about thinking you are doing the drugs for your

doctor's

> sake...I always thought it would be temporary too. I would take myself

off

> of them when I felt better and lie to the dr. Well, it has been 8 years

on

> different antidepressents and I finally realize that my life is a lot

better

> when I do what he says. He is a wonderful psychopharmacologist and his

> specialty is brains, so why do I think I know more than him. I am finally

> resigned to the fact I need it, my serotonin is messed up and it is nice

to

> feel calm and not crying all the time. So if it works, just accept it and

> solve one problem.

> Have a good day,

> SHaron

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

I am on Paxil, and can only speak on my experience with that, but I

believe it is in the same family of drugs. I am presently on 30mg, started

with 20mg. When I first started, I did notice the lack of libido, but it

did cease, or rather my libido came back, even after the increase in dosage.

Maybe you just have to take it for awhile, or as they say sex begins in the

mind, and if you are determined to enjoy yourself, you will. Just my 2

cents.

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: " Cyntha Landon " <cyntha@...>

>

>Oh Sharon,

>

>I am glad Celexa doesn't effect your libido..but it sure does mine...and it

>is miserable. But I still find pleasure in knowing my husband is happy.

>Sigh.....

>

>Cyntha landon Idaho

[Guest guest]

Just my .02 worth....

It is possible to suffer from depression and anxiety at the same time. It

happened to me during an incredibly stressful period.

The opposite of depression (at least in bipolar disorder) is mania.

Ken

Re: [Lyme-aid] Help

> From: WISHXXX@...

>

> In a message dated 09/22/1999 1:18:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ferraroa@... writes:

>

> << I've tried the St. 's wart and was about to get Kava >>

>

> Vicki: I just wanted to comment that the two compounds you mentioned are

for

> " opposite " conditions. The St. 's wort is for depression and the Kava

is

> for anxiety, Are you suffering from BOTH simultaneously or were you

confused

> as to the purpose of taking these two products ? I truly believe in

natural

> supplements but am concerned that sometimes we do not really know what

their

> functions are. Mona

[Guest guest]

yes it is possible to suffer from both anxiety and depression at the same

time.....

and is quite common with lyme and other chronic ilness's according to my

shrink.....i am on meds for both....by the way i had another letter to the

editor published today .....concerning the targeting of my county by skb for

lymerix.....they have been running some very disturbing ads lately playing on

fear and hysteria.....full pages .....i am really suprised the paper printed

my rebuttal against a big advertiser but they did.......come on people.....we

need to continue to educate and keep lyme disease on the fore front.....if we

ever hope to be helped....

Reid

[Guest guest]

I have had blurred vision and I have heard floaters can happen too.

Holly

Amy Casca wrote:

>

> From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca)

>

> Hello everyone..

> My name is Amy Casca,and I live in Washington state.

> I thankfully do not have Lyme disease,but am writing for a friend who we

> are very certain does..

> He does not have a computer and his vision has gotton very bad so that

> is why I am writing for him..

> He has been fighting this for about 4 years..

> He was bitten by a tick and his friend remembers a very strange

> rash(bite happened on a hunting trip and in a place he could not see,I

> think the back of his neck)

> He has seen every kind of Dr imajinable and been tested twice for

> Lyme,with negative results.

> At this point he needs a walker to get even to the bathroom...Whatever

> this is has basically destroyed his life..He has lost his wife,his

> business etc...

> He is now staying in a back room at his brothers house.And ends up

> spending most of his time alone.

> He says that he can see but it is very blurred and things " move around "

> Have any of you experienced this.

> He also has a great deal of symptoms of lyme.His Drs seem to be giving

> up on him,he has been tested for everything..

> Their last ditch effort is to put him on Chemo therapy.They can find NO

> cancer,but his Dr says that it may help whatever the problem is..

> I think this sounds crazy..

> Does ANYONE have any advice???

> They want to start chemo on Monday,I am asking him to delay it until we

> can find a Dr to explore Lyme better first.

> Any advice is a god send,and I will print responses and read to him

> Thank you all

> Amy

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[Guest guest]

Chemo destroys the immune system. It wld be the absolutely worse thing

he ever did bec his body wld then not be able to cope with the lyme

bacteria.

Amy Casca wrote:

>

> From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca)

>

> ,

> My friends name is Les..

> I think the chemo idea sounds very irresponsible,without the presence of

> cancer.

> The doc says if it is lyme,the chemo would help that also...

> I have done alot of research on the internet about lyme,and NOWHERE does

> anyone make mention of chemo??

> I went and saw him again last night and it was so heartbreaking....

> He seems to have gotton worse in just the last few days.

> His very worst complaint is constant dizziness and he says that

> everything moves around,like being in an earthquake,24 hrs a day..We are

> begging him to just say no top the chemo,but the Drs have told him this

> is his last hope basically...

> I dont know why they won`t just try the antibiotics and see...

> I would see that as a much more prudent step than chemo.

> But he has been laying there so long he is willing to do anything.

> I read somewhere that some people are getting their antibiotics from Vet

> suppy and treating themselves.

> We are horse people,Les also..

> And him and my husband said they would even try that.They are both very

> used to doctoring the animals and could give the shots..

> I think this is a very bad idea!!

> I told them I will not give them the name of the drugs to do

> that,(neither know enough about the comp. to find for themselves,and Les

> cannot see the T.V screen let alone read the small print of the

> computer}}but I can see the desperation.

> And how much crazier than chemo therepy is that???

> I am due to have a baby on Oct 10th so I am worried about Les during

> that time..

> If anyone will write him a letter,I will PROMISE to take it directly to

> him and read it,I think it would mean alot to him..

> Thanks,here I go crying again so I will close for now..

> Amy

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[Guest guest]

Amy,

Have him get tested at the Gensys lab to see if maybe they get a better

result. They are supposed to have excellent testing.

Holly

Amy Casca wrote:

>

> From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca)

>

> Hello everyone....

> I just got back from spending the evening with Les and I have bad news..

> Not to long after I talked to him this morning,the doc called back,and

> said that the results from his 2nd set of Lyme tests had came back

> negative.

> Basically I told yoou so the first time..

> He rammed it down his and his moms throat that he is a LYME

> specialist!!!!!!!!!

> And if the nest says negative,YOU DO NOT HAVE LYME!!!Basically, can you

> understand that simple language???

> This is your last hope and you better take it,he went in and let them do

> it....

> He told me if he is going to die anyway that he might as well get it

> over with then...

> This has been a bad night all around,when my husband got home,he is so

> mad...

> He just feels like giving up on him...

> All I know now is he is laying there shot up full of chemo,and this doc

> is bent on killing his immune system,and Les is maybe sorry now that he

> did it,but it sure is a crappy deal...

> Sorry I don`t have something better to say....

> You all have been so wonderful and I feel like after all the time that

> many of you have spent to write etc...

> That I have failed....

> Just letting ya know...

> What a bunch of bull this is!!!

> I feel like going to this Dr myself or something..

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi lymies, got a question. I have a lump on my neck beside my spine, its

sore and the soreness goes up into my scalp. I went to my PCP and he said

that it was a pulled muscle, and muscle spasms. I am not sure this sounds

right.. it is a hard, pea sized lump. What do u think??

Deb- Richmond VA

Husband hunts on deer populated area, this where I believe the tick came from

First contracted Lyme 1989, bull's eye rash on stomach, flu-like symptoms,

treated with Doxy for 21 days and recovered.

Re-bitten in Sept, 1998, ringworm like rash, flu-like symptoms in 11-98, went

undiagnosed until Aug 1999, symptoms multiplied and become worse. Started on

Amoxicillin 500mg and Probenicid 500mg, developed an ulcer. I am now taking

IV Rocephen

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I have oodles of articles saved in word that will help you. And you know all

of us will help you. I never say anything that I can't back up, so that is

why I've been keeping all these articles. Just let me know and I will help.

Vicki

>From: " Barbara Fitzmaurice " <blfitzma@...>

>

>If I have to answer questions because of

>my letter I may be hopelessly lost

[Guest guest]

lol. barb i thought the same thing!

here i was sending out 75 emails inviting people to ask for info if they

want!

oh well, maybe it will be a good day. if not i am going to open a new folder

and drop them in until i can manage a complete answer.

peace,

kay

[Guest guest]

Barb,

This is a problem many of us face, at least you have a scientific-medical

background, so you can come off a bit more convincing than most of us. I

have noticed that just like good eyesight days, I have good brain days. Now

if I could just use one of those days to accumulate some data, and

understand it. Problem is when those days come along, I am usually having a

bad energy day. You just can't win.

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: " Barbara Fitzmaurice " <blfitzma@...>

>

>If I have to answer questions because of

>my letter I may be hopelessly lost. I

>should have put together a folder that

>will explain why I said and wrote what I

>did. With mush for brains it is near

>impossible to even remember what I wrote

>let alone why!

>

>Barb

>blfitzma@...

>

[Guest guest]

I went into aol search and typed these names and the websites popped up - it

was pretty easy - I couldn't find anything on Nord except www.nord.com

(driving gears?)

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Information to health care professionals, patients and the public about

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/14/0 06:32:52, ulftage@... writes:

<< I am no expert on this, but one concern would be that the bacteria

should survive through the stomach (the acid could kill the bacteria

from what I understand). >>

If you are going to get your " probiotics " through yogurt, you have to eat the

yogurt soon, while the probiotics are still viable. As I understand it,

they die off rather quickly after opening and you can tell if they are still

living by how strong the smell of the yogurt is. (You may have noticed that

if you leave yogurt in the refrigerator for a long time it loses the smell).

Some people respond well to yogurt even if they have a problem with dairy,

because it is already somewhat predigested, unlike other milk products.

Bernard Jensen himself is a big proponent of yogurt. Other people do not

fare so well. (Bob on this list recently recounted his allergy to yogurt).

Guy, where did you hear that you should stick to acidophilus alone rather

than several strains of " friendly " bacteria? According to Randolph Meltzer,

D.C. in New York, you should look for a product that has several strains.

That way you will be sure to get the one(s) your own body responds well to.

These products will probably be more expensive than the others but worth it.

Meltzer incorporated such products into my regime when I was his patient and

we successfully treated candida and CFIDS.

Meltzer's probiotics were in capsule form. Other brands which have been

highly recommended to me in health food stores were liquid. I can't remember

the names now (sorry), and I really don't know which of the many brands are

the " best " , but I don't think it matters so much whether they are capsule or

liquid as long as they are kept refrigerated.

Aside from yogurt, two other foods which have probiotics are carrots and

cabbage. However, I don't really undertand the mechanism by which you get

them from carrots since I would think they would get lost in the washing

and/or peeling?

Robin G.

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Help

USANA from a Physician's Perspective

by Ray Strand, M.D.

> Olle Persson

> Aadvanced Nutrition Pty Ltd

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> Phone: +61 7 5571 5555

Page 1 of 2

This text is taken from an audio cassette prepared by Dr. Strand. His views come

from the perspective of a practicing physician who has experience with USANA

products.

I am Dr. Ray Strand, a family physician who has been in private practice for

over 23 years. I have a busy family practice in a rural community in the upper

Midwest. I love caring for my patients and have dedicated my professional life

to protecting their health. Most physicians are disease-oriented and lack the

time or the interest to become involved in preventive medicine or nutrition.

Though I have always been involved with preventive medicine, I have never been

too excited about nutrition. Over the years, many of my patients have asked me

if they should take any nutritional supplements. My standard reply would be to

tell them that if they would choose and eat the proper food, nutritional

supplements would not be necessary.

A few years ago, articles began appearing in our medical journals on the subject

of " free radicals " and their relationship to degenerative diseases. At first, I

didn't get too excited about these studies because I didn't feel they were

applicable to the every day practice of medicine. However, in the past year

there have been some major authorities in preventive medicine who have been

speaking out on this subject. One of the most notable is Dr. who

started the aerobic exercise movement some twenty years ago. He has recently

released his book, " The Antioxidant Revolution. " In this book, Dr.

carefully lays out the medical evidence that leads him to conclude that everyone

should be on an antioxidant supplement. This is a bold statement coming from a

physician who is so well respected in the medical community. I have to admit

that this was the catalyst that started my new found interest and research into

nutritionals.

What are " free radicals " and how do they relate to degenerative diseases? This

question must be answered first if we are going to be able to understand the

need for nutritional supplements.

Free radicals are released during normal metabolism in your body, as your body's

cells turn your food into energy. There are several different kinds of free

radicals, but by definition they are molecules that have an unpaired electron in

their outer orbit. This is essentially a charged molecular bandit that is

seeking out another molecule with which it can combine. These unstable molecules

are actually bouncing around crashing into other particles and tissue. Chemical

studies have shown that the impac t of these particles has produced bursts of

light. Free radicals are good in the fact that they help regulate the tone of

your smooth muscles, fight inflammation, and kill bacteria. However, the key to

the safe operation of free radicals in the body is balance. Many things greatly

increase the number of free radicals in our body and throw off this delicate

balance. These are pollutants in our air, water and food. Additionally,

ultraviolet light from the sun, cigarette smoke, radiation, excessive exercise

and stress cause an increase in the number of free radicals in our body. These

excessive free radicals have been found to cause significant damage to the cell

and even the DNA structure of the cell.

The body produces its own antioxidants that can neutralize these free radicals

and render them harmless. However, into today's environment the body is not able

to produce all of the antioxidants that we need and we have to rely on our diet

to furnish the rest. These external antioxidants are primarily Vitamin C,

Vitamin E, and Beta Carotene. When the body is not able to handle these free

radicals, they are free to run wild and cause devastating damage to healthy and

unhealthy parts of the body. This ultimately leads to many degenerative diseases

and premature death. Solid medical research indicates that these outlaw

molecules are involved in the process of cancer initiation, atherosclerosis

(hardening of the arteries), cataracts, premature aging, Parkinson's disease and

the list goes on and on.

Dr. Lester Packer, a biochemist at the University of California at Berkeley,

began to demonstrate in his research that free radicals are a major threat to

our health. Dr. Packer pointed to the very volatile hydroxyl free radical as one

of the main culprits in the initiation and promotion of cancer. The primary way

in which these free radicals cause cancer is by launching an attack on the

nucleus of the cells and damaging the DNA, which may lead to the mutation of the

cell and cancerous growths.

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> 2) It's true that the PTU is probably causing cancer?

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You and your wife are facing a really complex and emotional decision. Here's a

first step that I would highly recommend. BOth of your questions have been

addressed at length on the National Graves Disease Bulletin Board. The address

is http://209.114.200.77/bb/new.asp

The NGDF BB has an excellent search engine. Just click on " search " and type in

" pregnancy and Graves " and later, " PTU and cancer. "

Let me explain why I think this is the best way to answer your question. Dozens

of women have debated the questions you're asking on this BB. They posted their

thoughts, doctor's opinions, results of their research, etc. One or two posts

alone won't give you a full picture, but if you take the time to read through

all the posts on pregnancy and Graves -- and next, PTU and cancer -- you'll have

a comprehensive picture of the risks associated with pregnancy and Graves; the

positive and negative aspects of different treatments on pregnancy; the role of

PTU and its toxicity in a pregnancy (not much discussion on this there, but

enough); and finally, the personal stories of women struggling with these

decisions and through pregnancies.

There is no easy answer, there are without question distinct risks during a

pregnancy for a woman with Graves -- especially if the illness isn't solidly in

remission and it sounds like your wife's isn't.

Again, searching and reading the BB will take some time, but it will be well

worth it.