Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I do .25 g of arimidex on the day of the T injection. Is it ok to take DIM (pills) every day between? I read the benefits of DIM are outstanding. Thank you. ________________________________ From: Bill F <bfwl54@...> Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 5:10:23 PM Subject: RE: Arimidex Phil, What is the online site where you get Arimidex? Bill From: pmgamer18@... Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:52:21 -0800 Subject: Re: Adrenal Fatigue Vicky, I feel you missing the point here when your on HC meds it will not show up on a morning fasting blood test when you test cortisol on HC meds it will show you if your on too much shutting down your Adreanls from working. So my Dr. runs this test after I take 10 mgs of Cortef HC in the morning about 6 am I then go do my labs at 8am as long as my cortiosl levels come back showing a level I am not over doing the dose of Cortef or shutting down my ACTH what little my Pituitary sends to my Adreanls. So my labs every 6 to 8 weeks show my morning fasting Cortisol levels at about what I first tested before going on Cortef 9 to 12. Also people like us can have low Aldosterone levels and this dumps our sodium big time making us feel dam bad. So I am on .1 mgs of Florinef with 1/2 a tsp full of good Sea Salt added to my water 3x's / day. You need to have this checked and if your testosterone levels are low you need to get on Testosterone now not later when you feel you have your Adrenals supported the longer you go with low Testosterone the more the stress of this is going to eat up your HC or Cortef meds. Even Dr. seen this happening to his men and started treating both at the same time and if ones thyroid is low he now treats this to. He feels if the 3 are bad and you only treat one the guy suffers. Taking cortef or HC meds at therapeutic dose's is very safe. Here are some links about low Aldosterone levels I was on HC meds not feeling much better until we tested this seen it was low and treated it. In this link it' all about being Hypopituitary. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12 & sid=00e91d54c66c0d75d2ae595\ fdd8a60a7 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15454 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15453 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15450 Some people have only a few hormone problems being Hypopituitary but you need to check them all. And try adding 1/4 to 1/2 a tsp full of good Sea Salt to a glass of water first thing in the morning see if this makes you feel better. Co-Moderator Phil > From: vickydee32 <vickydee32@...> > Subject: Re: Adrenal Fatigue > > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 4:53 AM > Hi Phil, > Thank you for your very comprehensive response. I did TRT > for about 1 year before deciding to come off it because I > still had issues with my overall health. At that time I was > not on cortisol. After doing a low dose ACTH stimulation > test (which is a more sensitive test if you secondary) it > was clear that my adrenals were not producing enough > cortisol due to the pituitary not releasing sufficient ACTH. > Since the adrenal issues are life threatening, I decided to > come off TRT and sort out the Adrenal issue first. Maybe at > some later time I will go back to TRT. > > Phil, from what I've read I understand that you are > currently doing 30mg of cortef and 15mg of pregnenolone and > you are still no were near your morning cortisol target of > 25. . Are you doing any DHEA? I also got issues with > psorisis which has improved somewhat since being on > cortisol. > > Keep up the good work. > Thanks > Vicky > > > > > > > > From: vickydee32 <vickydee32@...> > > > Subject: Adrenal Fatigue > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 4:33 AM > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am from South Africa and have been diagnosed > with > > > secondary adrenal fatigue and currently doing > 20mg (10/5/5) > > > corvocot(cortef equivalent) per day. I am also > taking T4/T3 > > > for being hypothyroid. Only recently( 1month) > after > > > doing some research I decided to take DHEA > (started low and > > > now at 25mg/d) for symptoms of fatigue. The DHEA > it seems > > > has helped with the fatigue. My concern is my > labs. Morning, > > > midday, afternoon serum cortisol results and > thyroid results > > > are, > > > > > > Serum cortisol = 271/175/140 nmol/l still very > low > > > TSH = 0.46 miu/l > > > FT4 = 14.5 pmol/l > > > FT3 = 4.3 pmol/l > > > DHEA-S prior to taking DHEA = 5.29 umol/l > > > > > > I still have fatigue symptoms, low libido etc. > I'm afraid > > > my endo will want to increase cortisol further, a > path don't > > > want to go down further suppressing ACTH .After > reading > > > Chilln's info on pregnenolone or progesterone > > > supplementation(muscle chatroom website) I will > try and > > > convince my doc opt for either of these. > > > Has anyone used either of these prohormones and > come of > > > cortisol successful and what is the protocol? > Also which is > > > better? FYI, I was previously on TRT(test cyp) > and my lab > > > results were great, but still had symptoms of > just not > > > feeling well. > > > Thanks > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 You can try doing this it did not work out for me I got a bad rash on the back of my lower legs doing this. We did not know it was adding the DIM to the Arimidex my Dr. just figured this was work great. I ran out of the DIM it was on back order my rash went away. When I got the DIM and went back on it the rash came back. I know men doing both if you try this don't take both in the same day see how it goes. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > From: vickydee32 <vickydee32@...> > > > Subject: Re: Adrenal Fatigue > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 4:53 AM > > > Hi Phil, > > > Thank you for your very comprehensive response. I did > TRT > > > for about 1 year before deciding to come off it > because I > > > still had issues with my overall health. At that time > I was > > > not on cortisol. After doing a low dose ACTH > stimulation > > > test (which is a more sensitive test if you secondary) > it > > > was clear that my adrenals were not producing enough > > > cortisol due to the pituitary not releasing sufficient > ACTH. > > > Since the adrenal issues are life threatening, I > decided to > > > come off TRT and sort out the Adrenal issue first. > Maybe at > > > some later time I will go back to TRT. > > > > > > Phil, from what I've read I understand that you are > > > currently doing 30mg of cortef and 15mg of > pregnenolone and > > > you are still no were near your morning cortisol > target of > > > 25. . Are you doing any DHEA? I also got issues with > > > psorisis which has improved somewhat since being on > > > cortisol. > > > > > > Keep up the good work. > > > Thanks > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: vickydee32 <vickydee32@...> > > > > > Subject: Adrenal Fatigue > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 4:33 AM > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I am from South Africa and have been > diagnosed > > > with > > > > > secondary adrenal fatigue and currently > doing > > > 20mg (10/5/5) > > > > > corvocot(cortef equivalent) per day. I am > also > > > taking T4/T3 > > > > > for being hypothyroid. Only > recently( 1month) > > > after > > > > > doing some research I decided to take DHEA > > > (started low and > > > > > now at 25mg/d) for symptoms of fatigue. The > DHEA > > > it seems > > > > > has helped with the fatigue. My concern is > my > > > labs. Morning, > > > > > midday, afternoon serum cortisol results > and > > > thyroid results > > > > > are, > > > > > > > > > > Serum cortisol = 271/175/140 nmol/l still > very > > > low > > > > > TSH = 0.46 miu/l > > > > > FT4 = 14.5 pmol/l > > > > > FT3 = 4.3 pmol/l > > > > > DHEA-S prior to taking DHEA = 5.29 umol/l > > > > > > > > > > I still have fatigue symptoms, low libido > etc. > > > I'm afraid > > > > > my endo will want to increase cortisol > further, a > > > path don't > > > > > want to go down further suppressing ACTH > .After > > > reading > > > > > Chilln's info on pregnenolone or > progesterone > > > > > supplementation(muscle chatroom website) I > will > > > try and > > > > > convince my doc opt for either of these. > > > > > Has anyone used either of these prohormones > and > > > come of > > > > > cortisol successful and what is the > protocol? > > > Also which is > > > > > better? FYI, I was previously on TRT(test > cyp) > > > and my lab > > > > > results were great, but still had symptoms > of > > > just not > > > > > feeling well. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Vicky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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