Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I just found someone else asked the same question earlier today. Thanks! Donna From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Donna Iler Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:43 PM iodine Subject: HC · >>Some take HC in order to tolerate the iodine<< I am sorry, but I can’t find where in the previous e-mails it says what HC is. There are so many e-mails on this group! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 I am delighted for you and I am sure you will feel the difference. I would start on 100 mcgs L-thyroxine because once your adrenals are working efficiently, you will be able to absorb a lot more of the thyroxine than you could before, and that was the reason you keptf feeling the need to increase it. Good luck - you WILL get there! Luv - Sheila > > Hi > I spoke to Dr P this morning and he said its fine for me to try HC for > my adrenals, I just wanted to run my thoughts past him before I do > anything, although I did order some last night! > I am laying off the T4 now until it arrives and he adviced to only take > the HC on its own for about 7/10 days before re starting the T4 at a > lower dose, which I will do, just not sure what dose to start back on, > I have been on 150 for 7 weeks and a week at 175 which proved to be too > much, I am thinking of starting again at 125? Does that sound about > right to anyone? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hi Sheila Yes I did think about just taking 100mcg, its hard to tell really what is a good dose to start on, at least if I do that I can get my bloods done after 6 weeks and see what the results show and can judge it from there. I was a bit unsure about the HC but I think we are lead to believe its scarey when really in small doses its ok and wont do any harm, I will have to take the bull by the horns and just give it a go! I have always hated new meds and get myself in a right pickle worrying about it which doesnt help, but then look at all the people who take steriods for the wrong reasons? From: campaigner77 <sheilaturner@...>Subject: Re: HCthyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 11:58 AM I am delighted for you and I am sure you will feel the difference. Good luck - you WILL get there!Luv - Sheila>> Hi> I spoke to Dr P this morning and he said its fine for me to try HC for > my adrenals, I just wanted to run my thoughts past him before I do > anything, although I did order some last night!> I am laying off the T4 now until it arrives and he adviced to only take > the HC on its own for about 7/10 days before re starting the T4 at a > lower dose, which I will do, just not sure what dose to start back on, > I have been on 150 for 7 weeks and a week at 175 which proved to be too > much, I am thinking of starting again at 125? Does that sound about > right to anyone?>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hi Before seeing Sheila's response, I too would have suggested 100mcg, to avoid having a rapid 'overdose' along with the HC, even 50mcg on the first day's return to T4 then 100mcg for some days, then see how you feel from that point on. Your NHS doc will/ought to encourage ( with due care for your capacity to manage it ) self-medication through varying your meds to accommodate daily ups and downs (and/or) any other cyclical process such as periods/illness/weather/season/temperature variations in excess of about 10 degree C ~ sudden cold exposure etc. When I was very much younger, I knew nothing of these factors and expected to be able to respond, whatever happened.....I now know differently ...:-) in respect of my DW....I use no 'medications' and still try and respond as well as is sensible in later years. Antarctic expeditions being the only exception.....lol (joking here) although, you will see a lot of highly relevant research in Ant/Arctic environments with respect to thyroid and adrenal function. (Now) Prof phine Arendt (Surrey University) was active in that area some time back along with its influence upon circadian rhythm. best wishes Bob > > Hi > I spoke to Dr P this morning and he said its fine for me to try HC for my adrenals, I just wanted to run my thoughts past him before I do anything, although I did order some last night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 HI Bob Thanks, I am a bit unsure of what to do now! On 150mcg my blood results were pretty good, TSH 0.66 and T4 18.1 and doesnt T4 have a long half life so my levels wont be affected for some weeks yet will they? I also know that when I start the HC I will be able to absorb the Levo better and convert better so I understand I might not need such a high dose as before, but I feel going back to 50mcg might be not enough, dont really know what to do now, 100 or 50 or maybe 75mcg?! From: bob.m9uk <Bob.m9uk@...>Subject: Re: HCthyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 12:26 PM Hi Before seeing Sheila's response, I too would have suggested 100mcg,to avoid having a rapid 'overdose' along with the HC, even 50mcg on the first day's return to T4 then 100mcg for some days, then see how you feel from that point on.Bob>> Hi> I spoke to Dr P this morning and he said its fine for me to try HC for my adrenals, I just wanted to run my thoughts past him before I do anything, although I did order some last night!Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hi , At whatever dose you start, give it a couple of days to see what happens, then alter it in small increments, depending on the (relative) severity of any symptoms (good or bad). About 100mcg is near the mark for most women and maybe a little higher for heavier folk.... can't remember the exact numbers but it's (T4) around 2mcg/kg ~ which would equate to roughly 100mcg for someone weighing 50kg, but different if using a combination T4/T3. the long T4 half-life, 6-8 days, gives room for long-term cover best wishes Bob > > HI Bob > Thanks, I am a bit unsure of what to do now! On 150mcg my blood results were pretty good, TSH 0.66 and T4 18.1 and doesnt T4 have a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Thanks Bob, 100mcg it will be I think as I can be included in the more heavier folk! I thought someone said on here something about the half life of T4 being 6 weeks! I did think at the time that seemed a long time! From: bob.m9uk <Bob.m9uk@...>Subject: Re: HCthyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 3:39 PM Hi ,At whatever dose you start, give it a couple of days to see what happens, then alter it in small increments, depending on the (relative) severity of any symptoms (good or bad).About 100mcg is near the mark for most women and maybe a little higher for heavier folk....can't remember the exact numbers but it's (T4) around 2mcg/kg ~ which would equate to roughly 100mcg for someone weighing 50kg, but different if using a combination T4/T3.the long T4 half-life, 6-8 days, gives room for long-term coverbest wishesBob>> HI Bob> Thanks, I am a bit unsure of what to do now! On 150mcg my blood results were pretty good, TSH 0.66 and T4 18.1 and doesnt T4 have a Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 You s hould be OK at starting at 100mcgs . Luv - Sheila > > HI Bob > Thanks, I am a bit unsure of what to do now! On 150mcg my blood results were pretty good, TSH 0.66 and T4 18.1 and doesnt T4 have a long half life so my levels wont be affected for some weeks yet will they? I also know that when I start the HC I will be able to absorb the Levo better and convert better so I understand I might not need such a high dose as before, but I feel going back to 50mcg might be not enough, dont really know what to do now, 100 or 50 or maybe 75mcg?! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Side effects of oral corticosteroids Because oral corticosteroids affect your entire body instead of a particular area, this form is the most likely to cause significant side effects. Side effects depend on the dose of medication you receive. Within days or weeks of starting oral therapy, you may have an increased risk of: Elevated pressure in the eyes (glaucoma) Fluid retention, causing swelling in your lower legs Increased blood pressure Mood swings Weight gain, with fat deposits in your abdomen, face and the back of your neck When taking oral corticosteroids longer term, you may experience: Cataracts High blood sugar, which can trigger or worsen diabetes Increased risk of infections Loss of calcium from bones, which can lead to osteoporosis and fractures Menstrual irregularities Suppressed adrenal gland hormone production Thin skin, easy bruising and slower wound healing http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/steroids/HQ01431 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I find this to be true with docs as well as online--there is real confusion about using low dose cortisol. I have had none of these " side effects " . I would not be sitting here without cortef, praise goD. Gracia Side effects of oral corticosteroids Because oral corticosteroids affect your entire body instead of a particular area, this form is the most likely to cause significant side effects. Side effects depend on the dose of medication you receive. Within days or weeks of starting oral therapy, you may have an increased risk of: Elevated pressure in the eyes (glaucoma) Fluid retention, causing swelling in your lower legs Increased blood pressure Mood swings Weight gain, with fat deposits in your abdomen, face and the back of your neck When taking oral corticosteroids longer term, you may experience: Cataracts High blood sugar, which can trigger or worsen diabetes Increased risk of infections Loss of calcium from bones, which can lead to osteoporosis and fractures Menstrual irregularities Suppressed adrenal gland hormone production Thin skin, easy bruising and slower wound healing http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/steroids/HQ01431 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 hi jane ...are you taking loads of vit c, what about siberia ginseng, liquorice root, or rhodiola root? i haven't taken the latter but i think it is an adaptogen too. also do you take unrefined salt and good quality (organic) saturated fats such as butter and or coconut oil? they are all things that the adrenals love, particularly the vit c. best wishes trish > Does anyone know what more can I do to support the adrenals? Has anyone tried HC after quinolone toxicity? I looked at isocort, but the evidence for it is minimal. > Thank you! > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Have you considered high doses of vitamin C (4/5000mgs daily to bowel tolerance) and Siberian Ginseng (Siberian is the best) and also some form of liquorice - probably liquorice tincture. These will help boost your adrenals. Also do ask your GP to test your ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. If you have had these done already remind us of the results together with the ref. range for each test and we will help you interpret them. Doctors usually tell their patient their test results are normal if they appear anywhere within the range - but this is very bad and they are leaving their patients to suffer so unnecessarily. If any of these are low, no amount of thyroid hormone is going to be able to be properly absorbed into the cells. However, if you are doing better on 25mcgs of T3, then if this was me Jane, I would stick with T3 alone and forget the natural thyroid extract. have you been tested to see whether you could be suffering with reverse T3 (rT3). Genova Diagnostics do this test if the NHS does not. Can you give us the reference range for y our GENOVA adrenal tests please. Results are no good to us without the actual reference ranges. We need to know how low is 'low'. Could you be suffering with systemic candidiasis (another problem that stops thyroid hormone being absorbed). Systemic candidiasis can be caused through taking antibiotics and get into the gut. Bob (our Chemist) is not around as he has great Internet problems at the moment. Hopefully, somebody can help you with your question regarding the use of HC after quinolone toxicity. Luv - Sheila My problem is this. I have had an adverse reaction to an antibiotic : fluorquonolones (levofloxacin) and I understand that people that this has happened to must not take steroids as is exacerbates the symptoms and the damage may be permanent. However think I need more support for my adrenals. I also understand that this chemotheraputic drug further wrecks the adrenals. Does anyone know what more can I do to support the adrenals? Has anyone tried HC after quinolone toxicity? I looked at isocort, but the evidence for it is minimal. Thank you! Jane No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3099 - Release Date: 08/30/10 06:35:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Whos on HC here? How can one possible have amazing sex while on HC? Sex is a physical activity and used up cortisol... :/ Sendt fra min iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hi , I am on HC Cortef and my sex life is better on this because I don't suffer the fatigue or feel so dam tired. As for the act it's self I don't feel it makes it better or worse. Unless one has a lot of stress about ED problems when having sex this can lower your cortisol meds. Co-Moderator Phil > From: <gibcast@...> > Subject: HC > " " < > > Date: Wednesday, December 29, 2010, 9:39 PM > Whos on HC here? How can one possible > have amazing sex while on HC? Sex is a physical activity and > used up cortisol... :/ > > Sendt fra min iPhone > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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