RE: Re: cycling testosterone and hcg

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Can you share the " benefits " you experienced while on HCG? From top till bottom

Sakurai... thanks

Re: cycling testosterone and hcg

I have been doing something like this for several months with positive results.

I never go off Test, but I cycle HCG. I found out by accident. I had an initial

round of HCG that had a significant impact for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of no

noticeable benefit. It took a few weeks for me to get all my ducks in a row

(doc's script, pharmacy, mail-order syringes/needles) and the same thing

happened. Fabulous 2 weeks and " nothing " 2 weeks. So I set on a 2 week on, 2

week off protocol.

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> Saw this thread on Meso

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http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/testosterone-and-hcg-cycle-1342\

77281.html

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> anyone have thoughts on this - running your normal testosterone dose for 4-6

weeks then running just hcg for 4-6 weeks

>

> would that be an improvement on running both at the same time? or is this

just not make any sense?

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If your on TRT you don't need a lot of HCG if your on gels do HCG every 3 days

100 to 250 IU's. If on shots once a week do 100 to 250 IU's the 2 days each

before your next Test C shot. If your doing Test C shots 2x's per week do your

HCG the day before your Test C shot. If your doing Test C every 3 days do your

HCG shot the day before your Test C shot.

When you do labs do your labs the morning of your next Test C shot but before

the shot and don't do the HCG the days before your labs it will spike up your

labs both T and E2.

Now about mixing HCG mix it the day before you start a new vial put it in the

fridge over nigh so you know it's mixed good. If you mix a now vial and do a

shot at the same time your giving your self a huge shot of unmixed HCG. Then

your next shots are weaker.

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Phil

> From: mach_sakurai <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: cycling testosterone and hcg

>

> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 11:22 PM

> I have been doing something like this

> for several months with positive results.  I never go

> off Test, but I cycle HCG.  I found out by

> accident.  I had an initial round of HCG that had a

> significant impact for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks of no

> noticeable benefit.  It took a few weeks for me to get

> all my ducks in a row (doc's script, pharmacy, mail-order

> syringes/needles) and the same thing happened. 

> Fabulous 2 weeks and " nothing " 2 weeks.  So I set on

> a  2 week on, 2 week off protocol. 

>

>

>

> >

> > Saw this thread on Meso

> >

> >

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/testosterone-and-hcg-cycle-1342\

77281.html

> >

> > anyone have thoughts on this - running your normal

> testosterone dose for 4-6 weeks then running just hcg for

> 4-6 weeks

> >

> > would that be an improvement on running both at the

> same time? or is this just not make any sense?

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Please guys don't cycle your TRT you can stop and start HCG but don't do this

with your Test C shots or gels.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mach_sakurai <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: cycling testosterone and hcg

>

> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 1:07 AM

> I would say, in no particular

> order.  Increased energy and feeling of well-being,

> increased blood volume - significantly so. I could hold a

> pump for several days.  Something I have not been able

> to do for over 20 years.  My muscles were full of

> blood., increased ejaculate volume, increased testicle size,

> increased sex drive, and increased appetite.

>

> I wouldn't say erection quality was changed much. 

> It's been pretty good the last few years. I am

> hypo-pituitary, but I don't have any significant issues with

> E2.  I am on T3/T4, HC, T, Vit D, mirtazapine, many OTC

> supplements, I have a script for Levitra, but do not need

> and rarely use it.

>

> All this only lasted for 2 weeks, except testicle

> size.  They kept up for a bit longer.  It all came

> back after a few weeks off and starting up again. 

>

> That's me.  I'm not advising this.  This is what

> I found works best for me.  I used less Test

> also.  I went down to about 50mg 2x weekly. Like Phil

> and others do here,  I shot/shoot the HCG the day

> before Test.

>

> I have never thought of cycling off Test, however. 

>

>

> >

> > Can you share the " benefits " you experienced while on

> HCG? From top till bottom Sakurai... thanks

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

So take a HCG shot and then wait 3 days later to take another?

So if I mix my HCG this evening, I have to wait Sunday evening to actually take

it again?

Re: cycling testosterone and hcg

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> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 11:22 PM

> I have been doing something like this

> for several months with positive results.  I never go

> off Test, but I cycle HCG.  I found out by

> accident.  I had an initial roun

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[Guest guest]

No yours is premixed if you add a 1ml. of Bac. water just swirl it and do your

shot. It's for HCG that needs to be mixed with Bac. water that comes with a

vial of HCG powder in the vial.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: mach_sakurai <no_reply >

> > Subject: Re: cycling testosterone and

> hcg

> >

> > Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 11:22 PM

> > I have been doing something like this

> > for several months with positive results.  I never

> go

> > off Test, but I cycle HCG.  I found out by

> > accident.  I had an initial roun

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Confusing! I have bac water and HCG 2000- both came in vials. Now what? Can I

mix it tonight and take a shot or wait via cooler until tomorrow?

Re: Re: cycling testosterone and

> hcg

>

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> If your on TRT you don't need a lot of HCG if your on gels

> do HCG every 3 days 100 to 250 IU's. If on shots once a week

> do 100 to 250 IU's the

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[Guest guest]

OK my HCG is called Novarel it comes in two vials one has Bac. water in it and

the other has HCG in it but it's not liquid it's a powder. All I am saying is

if you have this kind you need to mix it the night before so you know it mixed

good.

Your is Premixed the HCG is liquid all ready you can do the shots with out

adding Bac. water it's just a smaller shot. When I mix my Novarel it is 10,000

IU's in a 10 ml. vial. This ='s 1000 IU's / ml.

With your premixed HCG it is 2000 IU's / ml so if you add in one more ml it's

1000 IU's / ml like mine. So for talk sake we are on the same page. If you use

it the way it came not adding 1ml. of Bac. water your shot size would be .12 mls

to = 250 IU's. If you add 1ml of water your shot size would be .25 mls = 250

IU's. It's just easier to dose when it's 1000 IU's per ml. Some men do 350

IU's this would be .35 mls on my mix on yours if you don't add the water it

would be .175 mls it's just easier to figure out your dose.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > From: uu1845@...

> <uu1845@...>

> > Subject: RE: Re: cycling testosterone

> and hcg

> >

> > Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 1:01 PM

> > So take a HCG shot and then wait 3

> > days later to take another?

> >

> > So if I mix my HCG this evening, I have to wait

> Sunday

> > evening to actually take it again? 

> >

> > Re: Re: cycling testosterone

> and

> > hcg

> >

> >

> > If your on TRT you don't need a lot of HCG if your on

> gels

> > do HCG every 3 days 100 to 250 IU's. If on shots once

> a week

> > do 100 to 250 IU's the

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