Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 You can buy sealed 10ml vials on the web - transfer the test from the amps to the vials I use 28 gauge insulin needles to inject the test into the delts - no pain at all > > Hello, > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per week. > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small insulin 30G 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the fridge mixed with Bacteriostatic water. > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a clinic on Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the ass cheeks. Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot the rest goes to the garbage. > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members to help me with two things: > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of Enanthate from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store it for 3 injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should I also mix with BA water because of bacteria? > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 times per week. From what I read, most people prefer the quads, with a 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make it as painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. Can I use a smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º angle, or should I always go 45º? > > Many thanks for the help here, > twenties. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 First of all when drawing from an ampule you should always use a filter needle to avoid drawing up broken glass from the ampule. Be sure to change out the needle before injecting into the vial, or you would be shooting any broken glass fragments into the ampule. No need to refrigerate. Room temperature storage out of the light. As for injection site, the bigger the muscle the better. I assume what you refer to as " quads " is actually the vastus lateralis (the outside of the upper thigh muscle). The gluetus maximus is better if you can handle the contortion involved. 90º angle is better. I use a 1 1/2 inch 22 ga needle. Deeper is better and a larger gauge needle means you will need less pressure to inject. As far as pain goes, there aren't many nerves deep in the muscle. All the sensation is near the skin. Despite your fears a long needle hurts less. You should probably have a medical professional show you exactly where to inject to ensure you don't get near a nerve or major blood vessel. Remember to aspirate (pull back on the plunger slightly to see if there is any blood) to make sure you aren't in a large blood vessel. It wouldn't kill you to inject into a blood vessel, but you'd get a weeks worth of " T " in a few seconds. I'm thinking that would be bad. Randy Hoops > > Hello, > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per week. > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small insulin 30G 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the fridge mixed with Bacteriostatic water. > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a clinic on Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the ass cheeks. Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot the rest goes to the garbage. > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members to help me with two things: > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of Enanthate from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store it for 3 injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should I also mix with BA water because of bacteria? > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 times per week. From what I read, most people prefer the quads, with a 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make it as painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. Can I use a smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º angle, or should I always go 45º? > > Many thanks for the help here, > twenties. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 You can do this two ways one is to load up needles and keep them in a case or box you don't need to mix it with Bac. water or keep them in the fridge but you can just take it out a few hrs before your shot. Or you can buy vials and put it in them. I use a smaller 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg. needle and do my shots into my thigh. Been doing this for yrs no pain good levels the oil comes out slow so I put the amount of my shot of air in the needle then I push this into the vial and then pull the plunger all the way down and just hold it until I have my dose take about a min. or two. I do one leg the the other try to pick a diff. spot each time. In this link you can learn how to do shots but read the info page. http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm Co-Moderator Phil > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@...> > Subject: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > Hello, > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per week. > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small insulin 30G > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the fridge mixed > with Bacteriostatic water. > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a clinic on > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the ass cheeks. > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot the rest > goes to the garbage. > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members to help me > with two things: > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of Enanthate > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store it for 3 > injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should I also mix > with BA water because of bacteria? > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 times per > week. From what I read, most people prefer the quads, with a > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make it as > painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. Can I use a > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º angle, or > should I always go 45º? > > Many thanks for the help here, > twenties. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Hi Phil, I was hoping you would answer because I've been following your posts for years now, and know you're doing a similar protocol. You guys said different things. After transfering the testosterone to the vial, should I keep it in the fridge or is it okay if I keep it outside? Is there a risk of getting bacteria if kept out? Phil, when you say thigh, you mean outer quadricep right? Like the pictures show in that website show. Do you feel 1/2 " is enough??? In the website they recommend 1 " . One more thing, you do Test + Hcg two times per week right? Is it every 3.5 days, or 3 and 4 days? Thanks. > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@...> > > Subject: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > Hello, > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per week. > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small insulin 30G > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the fridge mixed > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a clinic on > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the ass cheeks. > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot the rest > > goes to the garbage. > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members to help me > > with two things: > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of Enanthate > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store it for 3 > > injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should I also mix > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 times per > > week. From what I read, most people prefer the quads, with a > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make it as > > painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. Can I use a > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º angle, or > > should I always go 45º? > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 i would not store them in needles because they are not air tight as people think. The risk of having contamination would be much greater. I would use an old testosteron vial pneumonically sealed and keep it for no more then 2 years. > > > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@> > > > Subject: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > > Hello, > > > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per week. > > > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small insulin 30G > > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the fridge mixed > > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a clinic on > > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the ass cheeks. > > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot the rest > > > goes to the garbage. > > > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members to help me > > > with two things: > > > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of Enanthate > > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store it for 3 > > > injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should I also mix > > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 times per > > > week. From what I read, most people prefer the quads, with a > > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make it as > > > painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. Can I use a > > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º angle, or > > > should I always go 45º? > > > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would keep the vial of T out of the fridge it can cristlize in the cold. Keep it in a dark place. Yes like the pic. shows and 1/2 " is good enough men do T subQ now say it works better my Dr. will not let me do this but Dr. Shippen dose this to his self the did the book " The Testosterone Syndrome " Co-Moderator Phil > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@...> > Subject: Re: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:00 PM > Hi Phil, > > I was hoping you would answer because I've been following > your posts for years now, and know you're doing a similar > protocol. > > You guys said different things. After transfering the > testosterone to the vial, should I keep it in the fridge or > is it okay if I keep it outside? Is there a risk of getting > bacteria if kept out? > > Phil, when you say thigh, you mean outer quadricep right? > Like the pictures show in that website show. > Do you feel 1/2 " is enough??? > In the website they recommend 1 " . > One more thing, you do Test + Hcg two times per week right? > Is it every 3.5 days, or 3 and 4 days? > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@...> > > > Subject: can I store Testosterone > Enanthate in vial? > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > > Hello, > > > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per > week. > > > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small > insulin 30G > > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the > fridge mixed > > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a > clinic on > > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the > ass cheeks. > > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot > the rest > > > goes to the garbage. > > > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members > to help me > > > with two things: > > > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of > Enanthate > > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store > it for 3 > > > injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should > I also mix > > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 > times per > > > week. From what I read, most people prefer the > quads, with a > > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make > it as > > > painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. > Can I use a > > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º > angle, or > > > should I always go 45º? > > > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 That sounds like it could happen thinks for the heads up good to see you back here. Co-Moderator Phil > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...> > Subject: Re: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 3:05 PM > i would not store them in needles > because they are not air tight as people think. The risk of > having contamination would be much greater. > > I would use an old testosteron vial pneumonically sealed > and keep it for no more then 2 years. > > > > > > > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@> > > > > Subject: can I store > Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu > HCG per week. > > > > > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with very > small insulin 30G > > > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in > the fridge mixed > > > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > > > > > For the testosterone injections I always > visit a clinic on > > > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in > the ass cheeks. > > > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg > shot the rest > > > > goes to the garbage. > > > > > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT > members to help me > > > > with two things: > > > > > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg > of Enanthate > > > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and > store it for 3 > > > > injections? Should I store in the fridge? > Should I also mix > > > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps > 2 times per > > > > week. From what I read, most people prefer > the quads, with a > > > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to > make it as > > > > painless as possible, and not hitting a > nerve. Can I use a > > > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a > 90º angle, or > > > > should I always go 45º? > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Sounds good. I think I'll try first 1 " or 5/8 " , and then I might go down to 1/2 " . Have you ever hit a nerve and your leg started kicking like crazy? I hear that happens a lot with quad injections... And Phil, can you please tell me what your protocol is like nowadays. Are you doing Test every 3 days or every 3.5 days? And how is your arimidex dosage? Sorry if I as many questions as a child > > > > > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@> > > > > Subject: can I store Testosterone > > Enanthate in vial? > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x 250iu HCG per > > week. > > > > > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with very small > > insulin 30G > > > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store it in the > > fridge mixed > > > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > > > > > For the testosterone injections I always visit a > > clinic on > > > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me it in the > > ass cheeks. > > > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the 80mg shot > > the rest > > > > goes to the garbage. > > > > > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT members > > to help me > > > > with two things: > > > > > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the 250mg of > > Enanthate > > > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, and store > > it for 3 > > > > injections? Should I store in the fridge? Should > > I also mix > > > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, perhaps 2 > > times per > > > > week. From what I read, most people prefer the > > quads, with a > > > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm trying to make > > it as > > > > painless as possible, and not hitting a nerve. > > Can I use a > > > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go with a 90º > > angle, or > > > > should I always go 45º? > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 No I never hit a nerve I do shots every 3 days and I do HCG the day before my Test C shot. Arimidex right now I am doing .25 mgs every other day and some days that are bad I will take an extra .25 mgs. For me Estradiol never stays the same it's up or down from week to week it's hard to stay on one does my Dr. lets me dose by how I feel. Co-Moderator Phil > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@...> > Subject: Re: can I store Testosterone Enanthate in vial? > > Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 6:00 PM > Sounds good. > > I think I'll try first 1 " or 5/8 " , and then I might go down > to 1/2 " . > Have you ever hit a nerve and your leg started kicking like > crazy? I hear that happens a lot with quad injections... > > And Phil, can you please tell me what your protocol is like > nowadays. Are you doing Test every 3 days or every 3.5 days? > And how is your arimidex dosage? > > Sorry if I as many questions as a child > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ttwenties <ttwenties@> > > > > > Subject: can I store > Testosterone > > > Enanthate in vial? > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 6:01 PM > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I do TRT with 80mg Enanthate and 2x > 250iu HCG per > > > week. > > > > > > > > > > I do the HCG injections myself with > very small > > > insulin 30G > > > > > 5/16 " needles. It's painless. I store > it in the > > > fridge mixed > > > > > with Bacteriostatic water. > > > > > > > > > > For the testosterone injections I > always visit a > > > clinic on > > > > > Monday morning and the nurse gives me > it in the > > > ass cheeks. > > > > > Since I buy 250mg ampoules, after the > 80mg shot > > > the rest > > > > > goes to the garbage. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to ask the more senior TRT > members > > > to help me > > > > > with two things: > > > > > > > > > > 1 - Can I transfer the contents of the > 250mg of > > > Enanthate > > > > > from the ampoule to a multi-dose vial, > and store > > > it for 3 > > > > > injections? Should I store in the > fridge? Should > > > I also mix > > > > > with BA water because of bacteria? > > > > > 2 - I'd like to do the shots myself, > perhaps 2 > > > times per > > > > > week. From what I read, most people > prefer the > > > quads, with a > > > > > 1 " needle. I'm a slim guy and I'm > trying to make > > > it as > > > > > painless as possible, and not hitting a > nerve. > > > Can I use a > > > > > smaller needle, maybe 1/2 " , if I go > with a 90º > > > angle, or > > > > > should I always go 45º? > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for the help here, > > > > > twenties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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