Re: Why don't more try zinc?

January 25, 2011

Hi Nigel

How was the zinc deficiency diagnosed? Was it a serum zinc or red cell zinc or

something else?

I just had my Dr order both of these tests for me along with magnesium and

pottassium (serum and RC)

So iI will beinterested to know.

I dont suspect a deficiency as all previous serum zinc znd 1 rc zinc were in

range. I also supp between 30 to 76 mg zinc daily and have done for years.

My estradiol is high which is what I am working on with DIM and Super MiraForte

so I will know if there has been any lowering of e2 after this raft of blood

tests next week.

Kind regards

Wayne

>

> In working on my apparent severe zinc deficiency I've noticed some positive

> results. I wake up feeling refreshed, I sleep better and I need less

> Arimidex. The better control over excess estraidol is interesting as it

> seems the zinc deficiency allowed estradiol to go so wild.

>

> I also notice that I feel less stressed and need less hydrocortisone

> (although too much zinc at one time will lower my cortisol too much). My

> sense of smell is much better too.

>

> I'm going to get the zinc taste test liquid to better assess status. I found

> a study on it correlating to zinc levels, so it's not bunk. So far I just

> crush up my zinc tablets before swallowing them and can barely taste them.

> As I take more zinc throughout the day I can finally start to notice a

> tingle and a slight zinc taste after I swallow the pills. Come next morning

> they'll have no taste. I did a zinc tally a long time ago and wanted to

> vomit from the zinc taste that appeared within seconds of putting the liquid

> in my mouth, so something has changed since then.

>

> I found myself full of tons of worsened symptoms that are lifting with zinc

> when I found out my ferritin was in the 40s last summer and I started taking

> iron. My biggest complaint was waking up so dead tired, nauseous and unable

> to eat many mornings. I also started to develop angular cheilitis and I

> found wounds weren't healing so quickly.

>

> Have others looked into their zinc status? Seems like it would be pretty

> important for us as testosterone production is hurt when there's a

> deficiency.

>

> -Nigel

>

January 25, 2011

I don't have to tell you be careful to much Zinc is not good and well lower your

Copper levels. The most I ever took was 50mgs/2mgs Copper. All I take today is

what is in my Multi and the ZMA I take at bed time.

It is very hard to test Zinc every time I do labs and ask for it. The labs says

it only tests it on certain days.

I just felt if I am not take to much of it more then 50 mgs / day it's OK.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Nigel <nachonigel@...>

> Subject: Why don't more try zinc?

>

> Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:11 PM

> In working on my apparent severe zinc

> deficiency I've noticed some positive

> results. I wake up feeling refreshed, I sleep better and I

> need less

> Arimidex. The better control over excess estraidol is

> interesting as it

> seems the zinc deficiency allowed estradiol to go so wild.

>

> I also notice that I feel less stressed and need less

> hydrocortisone

> (although too much zinc at one time will lower my cortisol

> too much). My

> sense of smell is much better too.

>

> I'm going to get the zinc taste test liquid to better

> assess status. I found

> a study on it correlating to zinc levels, so it's not bunk.

> So far I just

> crush up my zinc tablets before swallowing them and can

> barely taste them.

> As I take more zinc throughout the day I can finally start

> to notice a

> tingle and a slight zinc taste after I swallow the pills.

> Come next morning

> they'll have no taste. I did a zinc tally a long time ago

> and wanted to

> vomit from the zinc taste that appeared within seconds of

> putting the liquid

> in my mouth, so something has changed since then.

>

> I found myself full of tons of worsened symptoms that are

> lifting with zinc

> when I found out my ferritin was in the 40s last summer and

> I started taking

> iron. My biggest complaint was waking up so dead tired,

> nauseous and unable

> to eat many mornings. I also started to develop angular

> cheilitis and I

> found wounds weren't healing so quickly.

>

> Have others looked into their zinc status? Seems like it

> would be pretty

> important for us as testosterone production is hurt when

> there's a

> deficiency.

>

> -Nigel

>

January 25, 2011

I have been on 30 mg zinc citrate for 18 months.

I have seen My Copper decrease. I have tested copper in serum and rbc. Both are

kinda low. This is possibly why i have had bad iron absorption in the past 18

months.

T.

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Den 25. jan. 2011 kl. 15.37 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

I don't have to tell you be careful to much Zinc is not good and well lower your

Copper levels. The most I ever took was 50mgs/2mgs Copper. All I take today is

what is in my Multi and the ZMA I take at bed time.

It is very hard to test Zinc every time I do labs and ask for it. The labs says

it only tests it on certain days.

I just felt if I am not take to much of it more then 50 mgs / day it's OK.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Nigel <nachonigel@...>

> Subject: Why don't more try zinc?

>

> Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:11 PM

> In working on my apparent severe zinc

> deficiency I've noticed some positive

> results. I wake up feeling refreshed, I sleep better and I

> need less

> Arimidex. The better control over excess estraidol is

> interesting as it

> seems the zinc deficiency allowed estradiol to go so wild.

>

> I also notice that I feel less stressed and need less

> hydrocortisone

> (although too much zinc at one time will lower my cortisol

> too much). My

> sense of smell is much better too.

>

> I'm going to get the zinc taste test liquid to better

> assess status. I found

> a study on it correlating to zinc levels, so it's not bunk.

> So far I just

> crush up my zinc tablets before swallowing them and can

> barely taste them.

> As I take more zinc throughout the day I can finally start

> to notice a

> tingle and a slight zinc taste after I swallow the pills.

> Come next morning

> they'll have no taste. I did a zinc tally a long time ago

> and wanted to

> vomit from the zinc taste that appeared within seconds of

> putting the liquid

> in my mouth, so something has changed since then.

>

> I found myself full of tons of worsened symptoms that are

> lifting with zinc

> when I found out my ferritin was in the 40s last summer and

> I started taking

> iron. My biggest complaint was waking up so dead tired,

> nauseous and unable

> to eat many mornings. I also started to develop angular

> cheilitis and I

> found wounds weren't healing so quickly.

>

> Have others looked into their zinc status? Seems like it

> would be pretty

> important for us as testosterone production is hurt when

> there's a

> deficiency.

>

> -Nigel

>

January 25, 2011

For me we still don't know why my Ferritin and Iron levels were below normal

levels. I did test low for B-12 and Folic Acid. I tested low for Folic Acid

and read some people don't convert the supplement into folate. I was on Folic

Acid when I tested low so I started on Thorne Research - Folacal with B-12. So

I take B-12 (Brain) Methylcobalamin, 5000 mcg-lozenges every Wed. and Sun.

Still we don't know if this worked because I end up having Heart Bypass Surgery

and have to be opened up 5x's lost a lot of blood. I was told at my age it can

take 2 to 3 yrs to rebuild my blood with all my health Problems.

So I have been on Iron pills for over 5 yrs. now. My last to sets of labs my

Ferritin was up 250 on last test 300 on the one before it.

It is said if you have a Thyroid Problem you can end up with low Ferritin and

Iron levels.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Nigel <nachonigel@...>

> > Subject: Why don't more try zinc?

> >

> > Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:11 PM

> > In working on my apparent severe zinc

> > deficiency I've noticed some positive

> > results. I wake up feeling refreshed, I sleep better

> and I

> > need less

> > Arimidex. The better control over excess estraidol is

> > interesting as it

> > seems the zinc deficiency allowed estradiol to go so

> wild.

> >

> > I also notice that I feel less stressed and need less

> > hydrocortisone

> > (although too much zinc at one time will lower my

> cortisol

> > too much). My

> > sense of smell is much better too.

> >

> > I'm going to get the zinc taste test liquid to better

> > assess status. I found

> > a study on it correlating to zinc levels, so it's not

> bunk.

> > So far I just

> > crush up my zinc tablets before swallowing them and

> can

> > barely taste them.

> > As I take more zinc throughout the day I can finally

> start

> > to notice a

> > tingle and a slight zinc taste after I swallow the

> pills.

> > Come next morning

> > they'll have no taste. I did a zinc tally a long time

> ago

> > and wanted to

> > vomit from the zinc taste that appeared within seconds

> of

> > putting the liquid

> > in my mouth, so something has changed since then.

> >

> > I found myself full of tons of worsened symptoms that

> are

> > lifting with zinc

> > when I found out my ferritin was in the 40s last

> summer and

> > I started taking

> > iron. My biggest complaint was waking up so dead

> tired,

> > nauseous and unable

> > to eat many mornings. I also started to develop

> angular

> > cheilitis and I

> > found wounds weren't healing so quickly.

> >

> > Have others looked into their zinc status? Seems like

> it

> > would be pretty

> > important for us as testosterone production is hurt

> when

> > there's a

> > deficiency.

> >

> > -Nigel

> >

January 25, 2011

Phil,

I take cyano-cobalamine. Take the shots because I don't absorb anything via