Re: Estrogen Test Results - How bad is bad?

[Guest guest]

I have one Question do you get involuntary nocturnal erections that appear

during REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. If not with your Total E's this high I

would say your Estradiol levels are high. Total E's in men are not a good test

because it is a women's test and they don't make Estradiol from the same place

as men we make it from the Testosterone are testis make not the same still I am

betting your high. Take this brand of Indolplex/DIM at dinner with some TMG at

bedtime.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.myvitanet.com/tmgtr75120ca.html

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

High Estradiol levels in men can make there Testosterone low.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

Show this to your Dr.

and this.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/nov2008_Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Ag\

ing-Male_01.htm

If you try the DIM get the link I gave you there is a lot of junk out there and

keep me up to date how your doing.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: robert_vetcher <robert_vetcher@...>

> Subject: Estrogen Test Results - How bad is bad?

>

> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 1:08 PM

> I have had night sweats for over a

> year and am thankful to all of you who have responded to my

> questions.  I received more than one response

> suggesting it was too much Estrogen or Estradiol.  With

> this information, I convinced my physician to run a blood

> test on Estrogen as well as Testosterone, although he did so

> only to appease me.  I told him specifically what tests

> I wanted for Estrogen (and that fell on deaf ears), he just

> gave me a test for total Estrogen period.  My results

> came back and he neglected to tell me over the phone how the

> result for Estrogen came out, only that the results were

> nothing to be concerned about.  I requested a copy of

> my blood test and was disturbed by the finding, even though

> my doctor again reassured me that the result was nothing to

> be concerned about. 

>

> My total estrogen result was 172 pg/ml.  The range on

> the blood test for normal was 40 -115 for an adult

> male.  First, just how significant is this, and second,

> I was trying to work with my doctor, I don't know if this is

> ego, ignorance, or if he truly believes this is nothing to

> be concerned about.  To a point, I was happy with my

> doctor because he fought with my insurance company to get me

> the androgel. 

>

> I also know I can treat myself.  Any advise would be

> appreciated.  I have to make my own decisions, but my

> real concern here is if this test result is

> significant?  If it is, then I guess its time for me to

> move to some other doctor.  Your advise is very much

> appreciated.

>

> Thank you all in advance,   Bob Vetcher

>

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[Guest guest]

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:08:21 -0000, you wrote:

>I also know I can treat myself. Any advise would be appreciated. I have to

make my own decisions, but my real concern here is if this test result is

significant? If it is, then I guess its time for me to move to some other

doctor. Your advise is very much appreciated.

There are documents in the files section on the negative impacts of e2

on men. Go through those, print them for him and try to wake him up.