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I would be one happy camper if I could just enjoy a nice intimate time with

my partner. I have suffered from ED problems for several years now. I

am a 61 yr old guy with aids. They say its a side affect from taking my hiv

meds for so long. I am a long term survivor, 20+ yrs now. I am not sure

the quantity of life is worth it without the quality. I miss the physical

part of the relationship. I have tried viagra, cialis and levitra. but none

of them seem to help much. I would like to find a doctor that might

introduce me to the injections.

Bob

In a message dated 7/28/2010 12:45:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

pmgamer18@... writes:

I had ED problems for 10 yrs until I found out my Estradiol levels were

very high. Getting them down fixed a lot of health problems I had and my ED

was gone. Problem with it working again is the worry about it working when I

went to have sex with my wife and this would kill it. So my Dr. gave me

Cialis 20 mgs told me to take it every 3 days doing this got me past the worry

and helped to keep my BP down. After about a week on this the sides were

gone. I have been on Cialis from the day it came out today my Heart Dr. has

me on it everyday 5mgs for my heart.

I know men that need to use the shot to get it up they say it's nothing

and works great but I don't need this. If he feels ok on the gel all he needs

to do is check his estradiol levels and keep them down using Arimidex.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: PatiA <_patianderson3@..._ (mailto:patianderson3@...) >

> Subject: Re: husband's labs

> _ _

(mailto: )

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

> Thanks for all the great links Phil.

> He does take Thyroid S, 3 grains. The dr. ran Free T4

> - 0.75 range 0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33 range 2.50 - 4.30. To

> his credit, he said that TSH is not a good measure of

> Thyroid function. I have talked to my husband til I am blue

> in the face about injections. He wants no part of them. I'm

> thinking that he might just change his mind after the doctor

> told him that there were penile injections that would

> produce an erection - makes me cringe and I don't even have

> a penis. Pati

>

>

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > > Subject: husband's labs

> > > _ _

(mailto: )

> > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14 AM

> > > My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half at night)

> He is

> > > applying it to his upper arms and back as far

> down as he can

> > > reach. He has been taking DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim

> gluconate,

> > > and TMG. He is not having erections and viagra

> and the other

> > > ED drugs don't work either. Here are the last

> test results

> > > -

> > >

> > > sensitive estradial 32.5 range

> > > 7.6 -42

> > >

> > > testosterone 548

> > > range 350-720 (previous 455 w/o

> > > dim)

> > >

> > > free testosterone 65 range

> > > 47-244

> > >

> > > SHBG 77 range 11- 80

> > >

> > > estrone by TMS 23 range <45 (I don't

> > > know what this is??)

> > >

> > > DHEA sulfate 49 range 51-295 dr said that it

> > > should be >300

> > >

> > > The doctor thinks his problem is sleep apnea (he

> was

> > > previously diagnosed, won't use the cpap machine

> - however

> > > he's lost a lot of weight recently and I never

> hear snoring

> > > any more, will be doing the sleep study again)

> > >

> > > Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but I feel like

> I've read

> > > that dhea can change to either estrogen or

> testosterone.

> > >

> > > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even though dr.

> said he

> > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet Mondays and

> > > thursdays. I think that I read here, with a

> > > level less than 40 he should be taking 1/4 tab

> every 2-3

> > > days. Is that how he should dose?

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your help, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Hey Phil -- I am on testosterone injections now. Have been for some

time because my testosterone was low. You are right, it is because of the

meds. But that doesn't seem to help with the ED problem. I think I am horny,

but just can perform!

Bob

In a message dated 7/28/2010 1:26:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

pmgamer18@... writes:

Hi Bob and Welcome,

You might have low low Testosterone and high Estradiol levels from AIDs

and the meds you need to take. Go to Dr. 's site at www.allthingsmale.com

and read TRT: A Recipe for Success in this are labs you need and why see

if your family Dr. will run them if he is not up on low Testosterone see if

he will work with Dr. over the phone to test and treat you.

If your low on Testosterone and high on Estradiol fixing this will make

you feel much better and might give you back your sex life.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: PatiA <__patianderson3@..._

(mailto:_patianderson3@...) _

> (mailto:_patianderson3@..._ (mailto:patianderson3@...) )

> >

> > Subject: Re: husband's labs

> > __ _

(mailto:_ ) _

>

> (mailto:_ _

(mailto: ) )

>

> > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

> > Thanks for all the great links Phil.

> > He does take Thyroid S, 3 grains. The dr. ran

> Free T4

> > - 0.75 range 0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33 range 2.50 -

> 4.30. To

> > his credit, he said that TSH is not a good measure of

> > Thyroid function. I have talked to my husband

> til I am blue

> > in the face about injections. He wants no part

> of them. I'm

> > thinking that he might just change his mind

> after the doctor

> > told him that there were penile injections that

> would

> > produce an erection - makes me cringe and I

> don't even have

> > a penis. Pati

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > > > Subject: husband's

> labs

> > > > __ _

(mailto:_ ) _

>

> (mailto:_ _

(mailto: ) )

>

> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14

> AM

> > > > My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> > > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half

> at night)

> > He is

> > > > applying it to his upper arms and back

> as far

> > down as he can

> > > > reach. He has been taking

> DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim

> > gluconate,

> > > > and TMG. He is not having erections

> and viagra

> > and the other

> > > > ED drugs don't work either. Here are

> the last

> > test results

> > > > -

> > > >

> > > > sensitive

> estradial 32.5 range

> > > > 7.6 -42

> > > >

> > > > testosterone 548

>

> > > > range

> 350-720 (previous 455 w/o

> > > > dim)

> > > >

> > > > free testosterone 65

> range

> > > > 47-244

> > > >

> > > > SHBG 77 range

> 11- 80

> > > >

> > > > estrone by TMS 23 range

> <45 (I don't

> > > > know what this is??)

> > > >

> > > > DHEA sulfate 49 range

> 51-295 dr said that it

> > > > should be >300

> > > >

> > > > The doctor thinks his problem is sleep

> apnea (he

> > was

> > > > previously diagnosed, won't use the

> cpap machine

> > - however

> > > > he's lost a lot of weight recently and

> I never

> > hear snoring

> > > > any more, will be doing the sleep

> study again)

> > > >

> > > > Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but

> I feel like

> > I've read

> > > > that dhea can change to either

> estrogen or

> > testosterone.

> > > >

> > > > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even

> though dr.

> > said he

> > > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet

> Mondays and

> > > > thursdays. I think that I

> read here, with a

> > > > level less than 40 he should be taking

> 1/4 tab

> > every 2-3

> > > > days. Is that how he should dose?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for all your help, Pati

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi PatiA,

I don't feel the Androgel is working 12 pumps I think is 15 grams this is 5 over

what the drug Co. says you can use. I tried doing this much and it just drove

my Estradiol and DHT levels way up. Some men can't use gels it dose not get

through the skin.

Yes his testosterone levels are up but at what cost. I would look into

switching to shots starting with 100 mgs every week have his Dr. show him how to

do them his self into his thigh. And add in some HCG do 250 IU's the 2 days

each just before his next T shot. Doing this will keep his Testis working help

his sex life and keep him leveled.

Read about it at Dr. 's site www.allthingsmale.com read TRT: A Recipe for

Success and his HCG Update he puts this out there free for you and your Dr.

He SHBG is very high is he on any kind of Thyroid med T3 only. This is why his

Free Testosterone is so low it's all bound up with his high SHBG.

Getting his Estradiol levels down will help to bring down his SHBG. He needs

his Estradiol down to about 20 pg/ml. I would not use .5 mgs 2x's a week I

would do .25 mgs every 2 days. When his levels come down he should get some

strong night time and morning involuntary nocturnal erections that appear during

REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. I call this wood for short when this happens he

is at his best levels keep taking that dose of Arimidex. But if his wood stops

this means he is going to low now he needs to stop the Arimidex until the wood

comes back in about a few days. Then that day go back on the Arimidex but do

..25 mgs every 3 days.

If he goes low again do the same thing then do every 4 days.

His DHEA is very low some men feel better taking DHEA or try Pregnenolone Cream

Dr. at www.allthingsmale.com has all his men on this kind of cream. It is

at the top of the hormone tree and converts down to other hormones that are low

like DHEA.

http://www.vitaminusa.com/prbocr2ozbyl.html

Also he can try taking a 25 mgs pill everyday. In men to much DHEA will convert

into Estradiol but he is very low I don't see this happening. In women that are

low on Testosterone taking a lower dose of DHEA can convert into Testosterone.

I have been told I had apnea and my wife she got the cpap machine and it drove

her nuts. After seeing what she went through trying to use this I would never

try it. When I had Heart Bypass surgery they kept putting this dam machine on

me and I would end up ripping it off my face. My wife lost 40 lbs and her apnea

stopped. I put a tennis ball in my T shirt so I will not sleep on my back and I

ware a noise strip.

When I was in the hosp. this sleep Dr. came in the room and told every new

person in the room they have apnea and need a cpap machine. After seeing this

Dr. doing this to everyone on the floor I question what Sleep Dr.'s tell people.

There is new in office surgery they do now for this problem.

This link is an old one I am sure they came a long way from the time I found

this link.

http://www.restoremedical.com/pillar-procedure/

Here are some links you can read from the links and files section we have from

the home page learn about this problem with low T so you know what to tell your

Dr. and you know your Dr. is doing right by you.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=450553

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/nov2008_Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Ag\

ing-Male_01.htm

Here is a link to a hormone tree that Dr. made.

http://tinyurl.com/2dz8ufs

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Phil

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: husband's labs

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14 AM

> My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half at night) He is

> applying it to his upper arms and back as far down as he can

> reach. He has been taking DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim gluconate,

> and TMG. He is not having erections and viagra and the other

> ED drugs don't work either. Here are the last test results

> -

>

> sensitive estradial   32.5  range 

> 7.6 -42

>

> testosterone  548       

>    range 350-720  (previous 455 w/o

> dim)

>

> free testosterone  65      range

> 47-244

>

> SHBG     77    range 11- 80

>

> estrone by TMS  23  range <45  (I don't

> know what this is??)

>

> DHEA sulfate  49  range 51-295 dr said that it

> should be >300

>

> The doctor thinks his problem is sleep apnea (he was

> previously diagnosed, won't use the cpap machine - however

> he's lost a lot of weight recently and I never hear snoring

> any more, will be doing the sleep study again)

>

> Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but I feel like I've read

> that dhea can change to either estrogen or testosterone.

>

> I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even though dr. said he

> didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet Mondays and

> thursdays.    I think that I read here, with a

> level less than 40 he should be taking 1/4 tab every 2-3

> days. Is that how he should dose?

>

> Thanks for all your help, Pati

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Thanks for all the great links Phil. He does take Thyroid S, 3 grains. The dr.

ran Free T4 - 0.75 range 0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33 range 2.50 - 4.30. To his

credit, he said that TSH is not a good measure of Thyroid function. I have

talked to my husband til I am blue in the face about injections. He wants no

part of them. I'm thinking that he might just change his mind after the doctor

told him that there were penile injections that would produce an erection -

makes me cringe and I don't even have a penis. Pati

>

> > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > Subject: husband's labs

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14 AM

> > My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half at night) He is

> > applying it to his upper arms and back as far down as he can

> > reach. He has been taking DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim gluconate,

> > and TMG. He is not having erections and viagra and the other

> > ED drugs don't work either. Here are the last test results

> > -

> >

> > sensitive estradial   32.5  range 

> > 7.6 -42

> >

> > testosterone  548       

> >    range 350-720  (previous 455 w/o

> > dim)

> >

> > free testosterone  65      range

> > 47-244

> >

> > SHBG     77    range 11- 80

> >

> > estrone by TMS  23  range <45  (I don't

> > know what this is??)

> >

> > DHEA sulfate  49  range 51-295 dr said that it

> > should be >300

> >

> > The doctor thinks his problem is sleep apnea (he was

> > previously diagnosed, won't use the cpap machine - however

> > he's lost a lot of weight recently and I never hear snoring

> > any more, will be doing the sleep study again)

> >

> > Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but I feel like I've read

> > that dhea can change to either estrogen or testosterone.

> >

> > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even though dr. said he

> > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet Mondays and

> > thursdays.    I think that I read here, with a

> > level less than 40 he should be taking 1/4 tab every 2-3

> > days. Is that how he should dose?

> >

> > Thanks for all your help, Pati

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Pati, you made me laugh with your last comment--agreed! I did want to mention a

couple of things. It looks like he could use more thyroid based on his labs.

FT4 should be about mid-range and looks like he's below. FT3 should also be

about 2/3 of range or higher, so maybe just a slight increase in dosage. With

his below range FT4 but mid-range FT3, he might even be a good converter that

could use more T4. Has his cortisol been tested? or rT3? Sleep apnea is a hypo

symptom.

DH went to injections for several reasons and would not go back to the cream.

He can now sleep in later instead of having to apply all the cream and waiting

for it to dry. When it was winter and cold, that was a real plus. I also give

him the shots in his butt, so he doesn't have to worry about it. I tried to

teach him how to do it in his thigh, but he just freaked out and was so drained

afterwards. Probably burned up any adrenal reserve he had! If you use a 25G or

higher needle, the pain is minimal, and sometimes he doesn't even feel it.

Estrone is another estrogen, E1. Estradiol is E2 and Estriol is E3.

The creams supposedly convert to E more than the shots, so that would be another

reason to switch. His total and free T are still on the low side, so adding

more cream would probably just make more E.

Barb

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@>

> > > Subject: husband's labs

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14 AM

> > > My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half at night) He is

> > > applying it to his upper arms and back as far down as he can

> > > reach. He has been taking DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim gluconate,

> > > and TMG. He is not having erections and viagra and the other

> > > ED drugs don't work either. Here are the last test results

> > > -

> > >

> > > sensitive estradial   32.5  range 

> > > 7.6 -42

> > >

> > > testosterone  548       

> > >    range 350-720  (previous 455 w/o

> > > dim)

> > >

> > > free testosterone  65      range

> > > 47-244

> > >

> > > SHBG     77    range 11- 80

> > >

> > > estrone by TMS  23  range <45  (I don't

> > > know what this is??)

> > >

> > > DHEA sulfate  49  range 51-295 dr said that it

> > > should be >300

> > >

> > > The doctor thinks his problem is sleep apnea (he was

> > > previously diagnosed, won't use the cpap machine - however

> > > he's lost a lot of weight recently and I never hear snoring

> > > any more, will be doing the sleep study again)

> > >

> > > Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but I feel like I've read

> > > that dhea can change to either estrogen or testosterone.

> > >

> > > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even though dr. said he

> > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet Mondays and

> > > thursdays.    I think that I read here, with a

> > > level less than 40 he should be taking 1/4 tab every 2-3

> > > days. Is that how he should dose?

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your help, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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I had ED problems for 10 yrs until I found out my Estradiol levels were very

high. Getting them down fixed a lot of health problems I had and my ED was

gone. Problem with it working again is the worry about it working when I went

to have sex with my wife and this would kill it. So my Dr. gave me Cialis 20

mgs told me to take it every 3 days doing this got me past the worry and helped

to keep my BP down. After about a week on this the sides were gone. I have

been on Cialis from the day it came out today my Heart Dr. has me on it everyday

5mgs for my heart.

I know men that need to use the shot to get it up they say it's nothing and

works great but I don't need this. If he feels ok on the gel all he needs to do

is check his estradiol levels and keep them down using Arimidex.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: Re: husband's labs

>

> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

> Thanks for all the great links Phil.

> He does take Thyroid S, 3 grains. The dr. ran  Free T4

> - 0.75 range 0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33 range 2.50 - 4.30. To

> his credit, he said that TSH is not a good measure of

> Thyroid function. I have talked to my husband til I am blue

> in the face about injections. He wants no part of them. I'm

> thinking that he might just change his mind after the doctor

> told him that there were penile injections that would

> produce an erection - makes me cringe and I don't even have

> a penis. Pati

>

>

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > > Subject: husband's labs

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14 AM

> > > My husband is using androgel 12 pumps

> > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other half at night)

> He is

> > > applying it to his upper arms and back as far

> down as he can

> > > reach. He has been taking DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim

> gluconate,

> > > and TMG. He is not having erections and viagra

> and the other

> > > ED drugs don't work either. Here are the last

> test results

> > > -

> > >

> > > sensitive estradial   32.5  range 

> > > 7.6 -42

> > >

> > > testosterone  548       

> > >    range 350-720  (previous 455 w/o

> > > dim)

> > >

> > > free testosterone  65      range

> > > 47-244

> > >

> > > SHBG     77    range 11- 80

> > >

> > > estrone by TMS  23  range <45  (I don't

> > > know what this is??)

> > >

> > > DHEA sulfate  49  range 51-295 dr said that it

> > > should be >300

> > >

> > > The doctor thinks his problem is sleep apnea (he

> was

> > > previously diagnosed, won't use the cpap machine

> - however

> > > he's lost a lot of weight recently and I never

> hear snoring

> > > any more, will be doing the sleep study again)

> > >

> > > Dr. wants him to supplement DHEA, but I feel like

> I've read

> > > that dhea can change to either estrogen or

> testosterone.

> > >

> > > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even though dr.

> said he

> > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet Mondays and

> > > thursdays.    I think that I read here, with a

> > > level less than 40 he should be taking 1/4 tab

> every 2-3

> > > days. Is that how he should dose?

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your help, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Hi Bob and Welcome,

You might have low low Testosterone and high Estradiol levels from AIDs and the

meds you need to take. Go to Dr. 's site at www.allthingsmale.com and read

TRT: A Recipe for Success in this are labs you need and why see if your family

Dr. will run them if he is not up on low Testosterone see if he will work with

Dr. over the phone to test and treat you.

If your low on Testosterone and high on Estradiol fixing this will make you feel

much better and might give you back your sex life.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: PatiA <_patianderson3@..._

> (mailto:patianderson3@...)

> >

> >  Subject: Re: husband's labs

> > _ _

>

> (mailto: )

>

> >  Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

> > Thanks for all the great  links Phil.

> > He does take Thyroid S, 3 grains. The dr. ran 

> Free  T4

> > - 0.75 range 0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33 range 2.50 -

> 4.30.  To

> > his credit, he said that TSH is not a good measure of

> >  Thyroid function. I have talked to my husband

> til I am blue

> > in the  face about injections. He wants no part

> of them. I'm

> > thinking that he  might just change his mind

> after the doctor

> > told him that there were  penile injections that

> would

> > produce an erection - makes me cringe and  I

> don't even have

> > a penis. Pati

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: PatiA  <patianderson3@...>

> > > > Subject: husband's 

> labs

> > > > _ _

>

> (mailto: )

>

> >  > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:14

> AM

> > > > My husband  is using androgel 12 pumps

> > > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the other  half

> at night)

> > He is

> > > > applying it to his upper arms  and back

> as far

> > down as he can

> > > > reach. He has been  taking

> DIM/indoplex, D-calcuim

> > gluconate,

> > > > and TMG.  He is not having erections

> and viagra

> > and the other

> > > >  ED drugs don't work either. Here are

> the last

> > test results

> >  > > -

> > > >

> > > > sensitive 

> estradial   32.5  range

> > > > 7.6  -42

> > > >

> > > > testosterone  548 

>    

> > > >    range

> 350-720   (previous 455 w/o

> > > > dim)

> > > >

> > > >  free testosterone  65 

>     range

> > > >  47-244

> > > >

> > > > SHBG   77    range

> 11- 80

> > > >

> > >  > estrone by TMS  23  range

> <45  (I don't

> > >  > know what this is??)

> > > >

> > > > DHEA  sulfate  49  range

> 51-295 dr said that it

> > > > should  be >300

> > > >

> > > > The doctor thinks his problem  is sleep

> apnea (he

> > was

> > > > previously diagnosed, won't  use the

> cpap machine

> > - however

> > > > he's lost a lot of  weight recently and

> I never

> > hear snoring

> > > > any more,  will be doing the sleep

> study again)

> > > >

> > > > Dr.  wants him to supplement DHEA, but

> I feel like

> > I've read

> > >  > that dhea can change to either

> estrogen or

> > testosterone.

> >  > >

> > > > I did get dr. to rx Arimidex, even

> though  dr.

> > said he

> > > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet 

> Mondays and

> > > > thursdays.    I think that I

> read  here, with a

> > > > level less than 40 he should be taking

> 1/4  tab

> > every 2-3

> > > > days. Is that how he should  dose?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for all your help, Pati 

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > 

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If you have good levels of Total and Free testosteone with lower levels of

Estradiol it might be your meds giving you ED problems there is a shot you can

do into your penis that will give you wood for a few hrs. It's called Trimix

go to the files section at this link and read about it.

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> >

> > > From: PatiA <__patianderson3@..._

>

> (mailto:_patianderson3@...)

> _

> >  (mailto:_patianderson3@..._

> (mailto:patianderson3@...)

> )

> >  >

> > >  Subject: Re: husband's labs

> >  > __ _

>

> (mailto:_ )

> _

> > 

> > (mailto:_ _

>

> (mailto: )

> )

> > 

> > >  Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:36 AM

> > >  Thanks for all the great  links Phil.

> > > He does take Thyroid  S, 3 grains. The dr.

> ran

> > Free  T4

> > > - 0.75 range  0.84 - 2.26, Free T3 3.33

> range 2.50 -

> > 4.30.  To

> > > his  credit, he said that TSH is not a good

> measure of

> > >  Thyroid  function. I have talked to my

> husband

> > til I am blue

> > > in  the  face about injections. He

> wants no part

> > of them. I'm

> >  > thinking that he  might just change

> his mind

> > after the  doctor

> > > told him that there were  penile

> injections  that

> > would

> > > produce an erection - makes me cringe 

> and  I

> > don't even have

> > > a penis. Pati

> > > 

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > From:

> PatiA   <patianderson3@...>

> > > > > Subject:   husband's

>

> > labs

> > > > > __ _

>

> (mailto:_ )

> _

> > 

> > (mailto:_ _

>

> (mailto: )

> )

> > 

> > >  > > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010,

> 9:14

> >  AM

> > > > > My husband  is using androgel 12

> pumps

> >  > > > daily ( 1/2 morning and the

> other  half

> > at  night)

> > > He is

> > > > > applying it to his upper 

> arms  and back

> > as far

> > > down as he can

> > >  > > reach. He has been  taking

> > DIM/indoplex,  D-calcuim

> > > gluconate,

> > > > > and TMG.  He is  not having

> erections

> > and viagra

> > > and the other

> >  > > >  ED drugs don't work either.

> Here are

> > the  last

> > > test results

> > >  > > -

> > >  > >

> > > > > sensitive

> >  estradial   32.5  range

> > > > > 7.6   -42

> > > > >

> > > > > testosterone   548

> >   

> > > > >     range

> > 350-720   (previous 455 w/o

> > > >  > dim)

> > > > >

> > > > >  free  testosterone  65

>

> >     range

> > > >  >  47-244

> > > > >

> > > > >  SHBG   77 

>   range

> > 11- 80

> > > >  >

> > > >  > estrone by TMS  23 

> range

> >  <45  (I don't

> > > >  > know what this  is??)

> > > > >

> > > > > DHEA 

> sulfate   49  range

> > 51-295 dr said that it

> > > > >  should  be >300

> > > > >

> > > > > The  doctor thinks his

> problem  is sleep

> > apnea (he

> > >  was

> > > > > previously diagnosed, won't  use

> the

> >  cpap machine

> > > - however

> > > > > he's lost a lot  of  weight

> recently and

> > I never

> > > hear snoring

> >  > > > any more,  will be doing the

> sleep

> > study  again)

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr.  wants him to  supplement

> DHEA, but

> > I feel like

> > > I've read

> > >  >  > that dhea can change to

> either

> > estrogen or

> >  > testosterone.

> > >  > >

> > > > > I did  get dr. to rx Arimidex,

> even

> > though  dr.

> > > said  he

> > > > > didn't need it. - he said 1/2 tablet

> >  Mondays and

> > > > > thursdays.    I think

> that  I

> > read  here, with a

> > > > > level less than 40 he  should be

> taking

> > 1/4  tab

> > > every 2-3

> > >  > > days. Is that how he should 

> dose?

> > > > > 

> > > > > Thanks for all your help, Pati 

> > >  > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >  > 

> ------------------------------------

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

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