Re: Re: Stopping testo-gel when high E2?

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What??? I take it DAILY - I just tried to explain I had to

Tale the gel in the Evening instead of

morning all 3 days before blood was drawn! I apply it every day.

NOT today. I felt if I skipped it, I would Get lower E2z

My total T is at 8000 and something. Range: 3000 - 10.000.

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Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 00.14 skrev " hardasnails1973 "

<hardasnails1973@...>:

Levels of 800 are good, but if you are doing it every 3 days then it you must be

a slow metabolizer or its over dosed, lab error. I had this happen to another

guy and it was a lab error. I would continue with the dosage you are on and

chalk it up to potential lab error. If you are on a 10% gel then it will not

cause you to go about 1100-1400 at peak. I have never seen one go any higher

then this. Continue on dr recommendations do not deviate untill you speak to

him.

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> I didn't Get to talk to Hertoghe today but I skipped My testo-gel today anyway

- Looking at my levels of T and E2 is this Safe to do?

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[Guest guest]

Yeah like why wasnt E2 raised so high this summer after being on the gel for 4-5

months? I then stopped gel for 1 month due to HCT at 60 (and felt great when I

did!) and hen started again. 1 pump daily. Now E2 is thru the roof. I feel BAD.

How do I Get SHBG up? This is all new to me... :/ I know little about these

things. Thanks for filming me in, I do appreciate it a lot!

Ps! How can I fix my EFA? Hertoghe told me to start Perilla caps, plus Flax caps

in June cause i had the same EFA analyze dine back then. I didn't start those

cause I got warnings from patients saying they could give cancer in my

prostate. (flax)

I am so confused with everything. Ypper HC to 35 mg yesterday, hoping that 2.5

mg increase will helt with something.

:-(

, severely ill for 3 full years this January.

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Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 05.45 skrev " hardasnails1973 "

<hardasnails1973@...>:

800 would be almost at the median which is a good reading, but one needs to look

at other factors that may be binding it such as SHBG, e2. Dr needs to monitor

dht since gels can raise them. Sorry I miss understood you. If your shbg is low

then e2 must also be with in close range to it other you can suffer e2

domainace. Thyroid parameters and adrenal function can also dicate testosteorne

function. Low gh levels can also impact how T can be used as well.

skipping may have lowered your t levels down to the 400-500 by next application.

As for e2 it some times have a mind of its own, but reality i saw factors in EFA

which when corrected will allow your body to balance e2 on its own.

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anyway - Looking at my levels of T and E2 is this Safe to do?

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[Guest guest]

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You can't let people on the forums tell you what to take and what not to take.

SOB people read a paper on the web by some PHD or anyone. Then to go around

playing Dr. telling every one they see not to do this or that from the dam paper

they read. RT3 is one people all over the web are hearing about RT3 having it

tested then going to the ex-stream trying to get it down and making them self's

sicker.

I would believe my Dr. long before I would listen to some one on the web. Both

Hard and myself feel into this by listening to some one saying are T levels were

too high and this is why we had a problem with Estraidol. We both cut down the

dose on are T and crashed.

All people should do is talk about what worked for them and not try to push this

on others. After all we all are not the same.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Stopping testo-gel when high E2?

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> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:18 AM

> Yeah like why wasnt E2 raised so high

> this summer after being on the gel for 4-5 months? I then

> stopped gel for 1 month due to HCT at 60 (and felt great

> when I did!) and hen started again. 1 pump daily. Now E2 is

> thru the roof. I feel BAD. How do I Get SHBG up? This is all

> new to me... :/ I know little about these things. Thanks for

> filming me in, I do appreciate it a lot!

>

> Ps! How can I fix my EFA? Hertoghe told me to start Perilla

> caps, plus Flax caps in June cause i had the same EFA

> analyze dine back then. I didn't start those cause I got

> warnings from patients saying they could give cancer

> in my prostate. (flax)

>

> I am so confused with everything. Ypper HC to 35 mg

> yesterday, hoping that 2.5 mg increase will helt with

> something.

>

> :-(

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your opinion Phil!

I am only without t-gel for my secobd day, and I feel a bit better to be honest.

Well I will take it today. If I feel worse again tomorrow I know why right?

I am trying hard to reaxh Hertoghe but he's sooooo hard to reach. I have hopes

for tomorrow though. So 9 am I will call and Get a few words from him.

My appointment is on February 16th. Hope I'll live til that day!

I will apply t-gel now Even if it's 5 pm. I hear it's not dangerous to apply it

whenever one feels like doing it. Right Phil?

My head feels sooooo weird. Like pressure and,heaviness and sleepiness. I fear

rT3 is growing and blocking T3, but it can be high E2 as well, right?

Just tired of being like this: unstable!

T.

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Den 6. jan. 2011 kl. 16.21 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

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You can't let people on the forums tell you what to take and what not to take.

SOB people read a paper on the web by some PHD or anyone. Then to go around

playing Dr. telling every one they see not to do this or that from the dam paper

they read. RT3 is one people all over the web are hearing about RT3 having it

tested then going to the ex-stream trying to get it down and making them self's

sicker.

I would believe my Dr. long before I would listen to some one on the web. Both

Hard and myself feel into this by listening to some one saying are T levels were

too high and this is why we had a problem with Estraidol. We both cut down the

dose on are T and crashed.

All people should do is talk about what worked for them and not try to push this

on others. After all we all are not the same.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Stopping testo-gel when high E2?

> " " < >

> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:18 AM

> Yeah like why wasnt E2 raised so high

> this summer after being on the gel for 4-5 months? I then

> stopped gel for 1 month due to HCT at 60 (and felt great

> when I did!) and hen started again. 1 pump daily. Now E2 is

> thru the roof. I feel BAD. How do I Get SHBG up? This is all

> new to me... :/ I know little about these things. Thanks for

> filming me in, I do appreciate it a lot!

>

> Ps! How can I fix my EFA? Hertoghe told me to start Perilla

> caps, plus Flax caps in June cause i had the same EFA

> analyze dine back then. I didn't start those cause I got

> warnings from patients saying they could give cancer

> in my prostate. (flax)

>

> I am so confused with everything. Ypper HC to 35 mg

> yesterday, hoping that 2.5 mg increase will helt with

> something.

>

> :-(

>

[Guest guest]

I know how you feel been down that road and I lived so think positive.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > From: <gibcast@...>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Stopping testo-gel

> when high E2?

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> > Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:18 AM

> > Yeah like why wasnt E2 raised so high

> > this summer after being on the gel for 4-5 months? I

> then

> > stopped gel for 1 month due to HCT at 60 (and felt

> great

> > when I did!) and hen started again. 1 pump daily. Now

> E2 is

> > thru the roof. I feel BAD. How do I Get SHBG up? This

> is all

> > new to me... :/ I know little about these things.

> Thanks for

> > filming me in, I do appreciate it a lot!

> >

> > Ps! How can I fix my EFA? Hertoghe told me to start

> Perilla

> > caps, plus Flax caps in June cause i had the same EFA

> > analyze dine back then. I didn't start those cause I

> got

> > warnings from patients saying they could give

> cancer

> > in my prostate. (flax)

> >

> > I am so confused with everything. Ypper HC to 35 mg

> > yesterday, hoping that 2.5 mg increase will helt with

> > something.

> >

> > :-(

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