Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hi Barb, Thanks again for another great link! That web page really got me thinking about my father. He has alcoholic dementia, low T, Reynaud's disease, high BP, and a huge case of insecurity. Treatment with Androgel has greatly improved his depression. His T levels are still a bit low (around 450), but he refuses to consider shots (afraid of needles) and he is very inconsistent about applying the Androgel (he usually does it most mornings, but forgets most evenings). His Thyroid tests have always come back okay but not great (he is not on any thyroid meds). Our doctor said that treatment with testosterone can help to improve some symptoms of Reynauds due to the increase in Nitric Oxide affecting the smooth muscle tissue and therefore making his blood circulate a little better. Of course, though, he is a long term smoker, too. Recent Labs (First result from 6/2/10, Second Result from 11/9/10, and then reference range): TSH = 1.16/1.26 (0.4-5.0) Free T4 = 1.02/1.18 (0.70-1.85) Free T3 = 2.8/2.8 (2.3-4.2) Total T3 = 124/99 (60-181) Total T4 = 8.5/8.6 (5.0-11.0) (on the second set of tests from 11/9/10, he had pneumonia) I always assumed that the insecurity was just a part of the dementia (and maybe it is). Doctors have said that he knows something is wrong subconsciously, so he tries to compensate by making himself seem smarter than he actually is. Now, I am thinking about doing a little more research on the thyroid aspect. Thanks again! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Barb Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: Re: HypER-hydrosis I had cold sweaty hands and feet when my thyroid was too low. They went away as my dose was raised. Here's one site that talks about it. What's confusing is that you can have no sweating or too much, it depends on how your other hormones react to the low thyroid levels. http://www.dstartz.com/Dr_Alford.htm " What are the most common symptoms of hypothyroidism? Usually the hypothyroid patient is characterized as being slow, dull, obese with dry skin, requiring a lot of sleep. The patient may also be of the opposite extreme. Coldness is the most prominent and absolute symptom, a result of the decreased metabolic rate. If a patient's hands are cold or cool in an inappropriate setting, that patient is hypothyroid. Hypothyroid patients may be overweight or underweight; have dry or oily skin with acne in the latter instance; have dry or oily hair that may be fine or coarse; have reduced intelligence or be very intelligent; have insomnia or hypersomnia; have constipation or spastic gut; bradycardia or tachycardia; absence of sweating or hyperhidrosis; " > > Excessive sweating -- armpits--has anyone had this problem and determined if this is due, potentitally, to whacked out hormones? > > DH suffering pretty bad with this, we are considering having the surgery done where they lipo out the sweat glands...it's such an embarrassing problem that has not been resolved with the usual prescription deoderants etc. This is not a new issue, but does seem to be more of a problem in the mornings and I am just wondering if *maybe* it's adrenal in nature and that I should consider small dose supplements of Iodoral, even tho his 24 hour adrenal saliva is just marginally low in am/noon... > > Anyone have any experiences to share? Thanks! EL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 , Has his Dr. tested his Cortisol levels before I treated my low levels. I had Broncitics every winter and and off a on some yrs pneumonia. Now I never get sick with this. Also try some Life Flo Transdermal Pregnenolone cream this is helping me a lot and other men at Dr. 's forum. http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15675 Co-Moderator Phil > From: <hostmaster@...> > Subject: RE: Re: HypER-hydrosis > > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 8:58 PM > Hi Barb, > > > > Thanks again for another great link! > > > > That web page really got me thinking about my father. > He has alcoholic > dementia, low T, Reynaud's disease, high BP, and a huge > case of insecurity. > > > > Treatment with Androgel has greatly improved his > depression. His T levels > are still a bit low (around 450), but he refuses to > consider shots (afraid > of needles) and he is very inconsistent about applying the > Androgel (he > usually does it most mornings, but forgets most evenings). > > > > His Thyroid tests have always come back okay but not great > (he is not on any > thyroid meds). Our doctor said that treatment with > testosterone can help to > improve some symptoms of Reynauds due to the increase in > Nitric Oxide > affecting the smooth muscle tissue and therefore making his > blood circulate > a little better. Of course, though, he is a long term > smoker, too. > > > > Recent Labs (First result from 6/2/10, Second Result from > 11/9/10, and then > reference range): > > TSH = 1.16/1.26 (0.4-5.0) > > Free T4 = 1.02/1.18 (0.70-1.85) > > Free T3 = 2.8/2.8 (2.3-4.2) > > Total T3 = 124/99 (60-181) > > Total T4 = 8.5/8.6 (5.0-11.0) > > > > (on the second set of tests from 11/9/10, he had > pneumonia) > > > > I always assumed that the insecurity was just a part of the > dementia (and > maybe it is). Doctors have said that he knows > something is wrong > subconsciously, so he tries to compensate by making himself > seem smarter > than he actually is. Now, I am thinking about doing a > little more research > on the thyroid aspect. > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > From: > [mailto: ] > On Behalf Of Barb > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 2:32 PM > > Subject: Re: HypER-hydrosis > > > > > > I had cold sweaty hands and feet when my thyroid was too > low. They went away > as my dose was raised. Here's one site that talks about it. > What's confusing > is that you can have no sweating or too much, it depends on > how your other > hormones react to the low thyroid levels. > > http://www.dstartz.com/Dr_Alford.htm > > " What are the most common symptoms of hypothyroidism? > Usually the > hypothyroid patient is characterized as being slow, dull, > obese with dry > skin, requiring a lot of sleep. The patient may also be of > the opposite > extreme. Coldness is the most prominent and absolute > symptom, a result of > the decreased metabolic rate. If a patient's hands are cold > or cool in an > inappropriate setting, that patient is hypothyroid. > Hypothyroid patients may > be overweight or underweight; have dry or oily skin with > acne in the latter > instance; have dry or oily hair that may be fine or coarse; > have reduced > intelligence or be very intelligent; have insomnia or > hypersomnia; have > constipation or spastic gut; bradycardia or tachycardia; > absence of sweating > or hyperhidrosis; " > > > > > > Excessive sweating -- armpits--has anyone had this > problem and determined > if this is due, potentitally, to whacked out hormones? > > > > DH suffering pretty bad with this, we are considering > having the surgery > done where they lipo out the sweat glands...it's such an > embarrassing > problem that has not been resolved with the usual > prescription deoderants > etc. This is not a new issue, but does seem to be more of a > problem in the > mornings and I am just wondering if *maybe* it's adrenal in > nature and that > I should consider small dose supplements of Iodoral, even > tho his 24 hour > adrenal saliva is just marginally low in am/noon... > > > > Anyone have any experiences to share? Thanks! EL > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 The only way to tell is test his Cortisol levels first doing a 4x's in a day Saliva test if he is low treat this I take Cortef for this. Here is a link about this testing and where you can buy it your self. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ If he is low treat this first see if it helps him. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/how-to-treat/ If he still has a problem read the following links. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15454 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15453 http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15450 Here is a FAQ's about low cortisol levels. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq/ Co-Moderator Phil > From: mbmom123 <lathe30248@...> > Subject: Re: HypER-hydrosis > > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 9:24 AM > Thanks very much for this Phil, I > have begun to wonder lately about a deeper issue like > aldosterone; salt cravings (we use sea salt, but every time > I turn around he is after pretzels/crackers, hugely sweating > after yard work, sweating after breakfast (protein mostly) > until about noon, armpits exclusively. We were getting ready > for Xmas party last evening (stress for him) and his pits > were just dripping wet...EL > > > > > > > From: mbmom123 <lathe30248@...> > > > Subject: HypER-hydrosis > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 2:44 PM > > > Excessive sweating -- armpits--has > > > anyone had this problem and determined if this is > due, > > > potentitally, to whacked out hormones? > > > > > > DH suffering pretty bad with this, we are > considering > > > having the surgery done where they lipo out the > sweat > > > glands...it's such an embarrassing problem that > has not been > > > resolved with the usual prescription deoderants > etc. This is > > > not a new issue, but does seem to be more of a > problem in > > > the mornings and I am just wondering if *maybe* > it's adrenal > > > in nature and that I should consider small dose > supplements > > > of Iodoral, even tho his 24 hour adrenal saliva > is just > > > marginally low in am/noon... > > > > > > Anyone have any experiences to share? Thanks! EL > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Your welcome hope it all helps. Co-Moderator Phil > From: mbmom123 <lathe30248@...> > Subject: Re: HypER-hydrosis > > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:51 PM > Thanks Phil, I think we need to do > another saliva test and do the > aldosterone/renin/sodium/potassium tests to see if this is > possibly a portion of the issue! Thanks for all the reading > material, much appreciated..EL > > > > > > > > > > > From: mbmom123 <lathe30248@> > > > > > Subject: HypER-hydrosis > > > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 2:44 > PM > > > > > Excessive sweating -- armpits--has > > > > > anyone had this problem and determined > if this is > > > due, > > > > > potentitally, to whacked out hormones? > > > > > > > > > > > DH suffering pretty bad with this, we > are > > > considering > > > > > having the surgery done where they lipo > out the > > > sweat > > > > > glands...it's such an embarrassing > problem that > > > has not been > > > > > resolved with the usual prescription > deoderants > > > etc. This is > > > > > not a new issue, but does seem to be > more of a > > > problem in > > > > > the mornings and I am just wondering if > *maybe* > > > it's adrenal > > > > > in nature and that I should consider > small dose > > > supplements > > > > > of Iodoral, even tho his 24 hour > adrenal saliva > > > is just > > > > > marginally low in am/noon... > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any experiences to share? > Thanks! EL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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