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I use Quest labs but you can do Labcorp also. If you call Quest labs you can go

to there lab and they will take the blood. Here are the labs I do.

Estradiol sensitive Code #4021

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

Vit.D, 25-Hydroxy LC/MS/MS Code #17306X.

TSH

Free T4

Free T3

Total T3

Total T4

RT3

Total Iron

Iron Binding Capacity

Iron % Saturation

Ferritin

B-12

If you do the test 14966X it has everything in it Total, Free, Bio, SHBG and so

on.

I put the Iron in this but if your list is to long it can be done if he shows he

has a thyroid problem.

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> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: labs ordered

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and

> he rx's testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took

> in the long list of labs that I wanted him to have done -

> Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He wrote it

> on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the

> forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in

> his building as I wanted to check our insurance coverage.

> There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on this

> paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what

> he wrote - what is the most important things that I am

> missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him the word

> " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

> you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him

> about this forum and that doctors sometime posted, he

> thought it was great.

>

> Prolactin

> FSH

> LH

> Ferritin

> TSH

> Reverse T3

> Estrodial

> B 12

> progesterone

> DHEA

> Testosterone

>

> I know that I need to write " free " instead of just

> Testosterone. Is the correct term for E " sensitive " . I also

> want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me

> best lab to go get work done, should I write in the codes

> for that particular lab?

>

> I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of

> 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me ranges - I

> didn't think that this level was important so I didn't

> ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Do you think that I could write in " free/total T3 & T4 " ? I think that I would

have room if the lab would make sense of it written that way

>

> > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > Subject: labs ordered

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and

> > he rx's testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took

> > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to have done -

> > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He wrote it

> > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the

> > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in

> > his building as I wanted to check our insurance coverage.

> > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on this

> > paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what

> > he wrote - what is the most important things that I am

> > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him the word

> > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

> > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him

> > about this forum and that doctors sometime posted, he

> > thought it was great.

> >

> > Prolactin

> > FSH

> > LH

> > Ferritin

> > TSH

> > Reverse T3

> > Estrodial

> > B 12

> > progesterone

> > DHEA

> > Testosterone

> >

> > I know that I need to write " free " instead of just

> > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E " sensitive " . I also

> > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me

> > best lab to go get work done, should I write in the codes

> > for that particular lab?

> >

> > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of

> > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me ranges - I

> > didn't think that this level was important so I didn't

> > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Here is a list of lab corps to look at.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/recommended-labwork/

I generally use econolabs with 10% discount code. Check prices between labs as

it varies depending on the test for cheapest labs. Also one might take your

insurance so it would be cheaper, I don't have any.

Just write the extra labs on the slip. You do not need to add the CPT or test

codes. Definitely use a coma and add free to the test and sensitive to the

estradial.

Hope this helps,

Jennie

>

> Hi All, I'm pretty excited. Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and he rx's

testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took in the long list of labs that

I wanted him to have done - Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He

wrote it on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the forms as I

told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in his building as I wanted to

check our insurance coverage. There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on

this paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what he wrote - what

is the most important things that I am missing? Couple of funny things - I

taught him the word " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him about this forum and

that doctors sometime posted, he thought it was great.

>

> Prolactin

> FSH

> LH

> Ferritin

> TSH

> Reverse T3

> Estrodial

> B 12

> progesterone

> DHEA

> Testosterone

>

> I know that I need to write " free " instead of just Testosterone. Is the

correct term for E " sensitive " . I also want to write in Free T3 and Free T$.

> Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me best lab to go get

work done, should I write in the codes for that particular lab?

>

> I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of 170 tells you

anything, he didn't give me ranges - I didn't think that this level was

important so I didn't ask. Thanks Loads, Pati

>

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Altering the lab work from a Dr is not advisiable even though I used to do it in

the past because the Dr's are complete baffoons

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@>

> > > Subject: labs ordered

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and

> > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took

> > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to have done -

> > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He wrote it

> > > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the

> > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in

> > > his building as I wanted to check our insurance coverage.

> > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on this

> > > paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what

> > > he wrote - what is the most important things that I am

> > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him the word

> > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

> > > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him

> > > about this forum and that doctors sometime posted, he

> > > thought it was great.

> > >

> > > Prolactin

> > > FSH

> > > LH

> > > Ferritin

> > > TSH

> > > Reverse T3

> > > Estrodial

> > > B 12

> > > progesterone

> > > DHEA

> > > Testosterone

> > >

> > > I know that I need to write " free " instead of just

> > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E " sensitive " . I also

> > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me

> > > best lab to go get work done, should I write in the codes

> > > for that particular lab?

> > >

> > > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of

> > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me ranges - I

> > > didn't think that this level was important so I didn't

> > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Yes I would.

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> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 9:32 AM

> Do you think that I could write in

> " free/total T3 & T4 " ? I think that I would have room if

> the lab would make sense of it written that way

>

>

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> > > Subject: labs ordered

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his

> only dr. and

> > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son)

> Anyway, I took

> > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to

> have done -

> > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it.

> He wrote it

> > > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking

> one of the

> > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to

> the lab in

> > > his building as I wanted to check our insurance

> coverage.

> > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room

> on this

> > > paper so I intend to write a couple of things -

> here's what

> > > he wrote - what is the most important things that

> I am

> > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him

> the word

> > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he

> said " wow,

> > > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist "

> I told him

> > > about this forum and that doctors sometime

> posted, he

> > > thought it was great.

> > >

> > > Prolactin

> > > FSH

> > > LH

> > > Ferritin

> > > TSH

> > > Reverse T3

> > > Estrodial

> > > B 12

> > > progesterone

> > > DHEA

> > > Testosterone

> > >

> > > I know that I need to write " free " instead of

> just

> > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E

> " sensitive " . I also

> > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can

> tell me

> > > best lab to go get work done, should I write in

> the codes

> > > for that particular lab?

> > >

> > > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone

> result of

> > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me

> ranges - I

> > > didn't think that this level was important so I

> didn't

> > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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It not important to get Total t3 or t4. In the book stop the thyroid madness it

says they are a waste of money. The ones we really need are the Frees.

Sky

________________________________

From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 11:32:20 PM

Subject: Re: labs ordered

 

Do you think that I could write in " free/total T3 & T4 " ? I think that I would

have room if the lab would make sense of it written that way

>

> > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > Subject: labs ordered

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and

> > he rx's testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took

> > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to have done -

> > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He wrote it

> > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the

> > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in

> > his building as I wanted to check our insurance coverage.

> > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on this

> > paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what

> > he wrote - what is the most important things that I am

> > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him the word

> > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

> > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him

> > about this forum and that doctors sometime posted, he

> > thought it was great.

> >

> > Prolactin

> > FSH

> > LH

> > Ferritin

> > TSH

> > Reverse T3

> > Estrodial

> > B 12

> > progesterone

> > DHEA

> > Testosterone

> >

> > I know that I need to write " free " instead of just

> > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E " sensitive " . I also

> > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me

> > best lab to go get work done, should I write in the codes

> > for that particular lab?

> >

> > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of

> > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me ranges - I

> > didn't think that this level was important so I didn't

> > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

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I don't agree with this anymore after reading what Dr. M said about this at his

forum.

Free's are a % of your Totals with low Totals you can end up with a good Free

number but it is a % of the total and if the total is low nothing from nothing

is nothing. The following is copy of just one of his postings about this.

===================================================

Many physicians gauge thyroid replacement treatment based on TSH. However, TSH

is not an accurate test when one has non-thyroid illness (such as mental

illness, diabetes, heart disease, adrenal problems, thyroid resistance, etc.)

affecting thyroid hormone function.

Free levels may also not give the full story - particularly Free T4, which tends

to be insensitive to thyroid hormone activity.

Total T4 gives one an indication of total thyroid hormone production since

almost all of thyroid hormone released by the thyroid glands is T4. Total T4,

like Total Testosteorne, is highly useful to determine how much thyroid hormone

to give. If one is using Levothyroxine for replacement or optimization of

thyroid hormone levels, then a Total T4 makes treatment very easy to determine.

I, for example, like seeing Total T4 between 8-12 (up to 14 if that person is a

female taking birth control pills).

Total T3 gives on an idea of conversion from T4 to T3. One can't get this from

Free T3 since this is only the small fraction that is not bound to a thyroid

binding protein. This would then give an indication of the presence of a

non-thyroid illness affecting thyroid function.

Free T3 gives information about how much thyroid hormone activity there is in

the body. It may, however, be different in the brain (since it is in a separate

compartment from the body). If one assumes they are similar, Free T3 can be a

useful level to manipulate to optimize thyroid hormone. Free T3 is most affected

when one gives Armour Thyroid or Cytomel (T3) since they have a greater

percentage of T3 than what the thyroid gland outputs. Realize that Free T3 is

also determined by the signals that determine how much thyroid binding proteins

to produce. Estrogen, for example, increases thyroid binding globulin

production, which can lower Free T3. Thus, Free T3 is determined by more than

one hormone.

Frequently, a person would have adequate T4 (8-12) but low Free T3 or low Total

T3. This person has non-thyroid illness affecting thyroid hormone signaling.

Reverse T3 may be high in this situation. It can give more information, but I

haven't found it as useful since I can tell it from Free T3 or Total T3 and the

history and physical exam. Thus I don't use Reverese T3 often. Once one has this

information, then the more important treatment is to find and treat the

non-thyroid illness rather than adding more thyroid hormone. I've often found

that I can add too much thyroid hormone, causing the person to become

hyperthyroid, once the non-thyroid illness is treated, forcing me to reduce the

dose. Thus, when total T4 is 8-12, I generally would hesitate and consider the

other options before considering adding more thyroid hormone to try and improve

a person's health. These days, what is the point of overshooting the mark and

having to backtrack on the dose

because it causes complications down the line when a person is suppose to be

consistently getting better? It is far easier and less complicated to set the

target dose, then track down and target the causes of non-thyroid illness. Once

that is done, then the foundation is set for further increasing thyroid hormone

without complications such as hyperthyroidism.

__________________

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only, is not medical advice, does not create a doctor/patient relationship or

liability, is not exhaustive, does not cover all conditions or their treatment,

and will change as knowledge progresses. Always seek the advice of your

physician or other qualified health provider before undertaking any diet,

exercise, supplement, medical, or other health program.

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> From: SKY JONES <subhadradasi2000@...>

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 PM

> It not important to get Total t3 or

> t4. In the book stop the thyroid madness it says they are a

> waste of money. The ones we really need are the Frees.

>

> Sky

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 11:32:20 PM

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

>  

> Do you think that I could write in " free/total T3 &

> T4 " ? I think that I would have room if the lab would make

> sense of it written that way

>

>

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > > Subject: labs ordered

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his

> only dr. and

> > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son)

> Anyway, I took

> > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to

> have done -

> > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it.

> He wrote it

> > > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking

> one of the

> > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to

> the lab in

> > > his building as I wanted to check our insurance

> coverage.

> > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room

> on this

> > > paper so I intend to write a couple of things -

> here's what

> > > he wrote - what is the most important things that

> I am

> > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him

> the word

> > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he

> said " wow,

> > > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist "

> I told him

> > > about this forum and that doctors sometime

> posted, he

> > > thought it was great.

> > >

> > > Prolactin

> > > FSH

> > > LH

> > > Ferritin

> > > TSH

> > > Reverse T3

> > > Estrodial

> > > B 12

> > > progesterone

> > > DHEA

> > > Testosterone

> > >

> > > I know that I need to write " free " instead of

> just

> > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E

> " sensitive " . I also

> > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can

> tell me

> > > best lab to go get work done, should I write in

> the codes

> > > for that particular lab?

> > >

> > > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone

> result of

> > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me

> ranges - I

> > > didn't think that this level was important so I

> didn't

> > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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Crap, I didn't write total on that rx - just the free's. Anyway, I called the

drs. office to ask if I could write in the free's and cpt codes for quest to

make sure they got it right. Figured I would have to wait for the dr. to call

back, but the assistant said go ahead, just write in black like dr. did! Guess

Totals will have to wait as were not self treating anyway. Pati

> > >

> > > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > > > Subject: labs ordered

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his

> > only dr. and

> > > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son)

> > Anyway, I took

> > > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to

> > have done -

> > > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it.

> > He wrote it

> > > > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking

> > one of the

> > > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to

> > the lab in

> > > > his building as I wanted to check our insurance

> > coverage.

> > > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room

> > on this

> > > > paper so I intend to write a couple of things -

> > here's what

> > > > he wrote - what is the most important things that

> > I am

> > > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him

> > the word

> > > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he

> > said " wow,

> > > > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist "

> > I told him

> > > > about this forum and that doctors sometime

> > posted, he

> > > > thought it was great.

> > > >

> > > > Prolactin

> > > > FSH

> > > > LH

> > > > Ferritin

> > > > TSH

> > > > Reverse T3

> > > > Estrodial

> > > > B 12

> > > > progesterone

> > > > DHEA

> > > > Testosterone

> > > >

> > > > I know that I need to write " free " instead of

> > just

> > > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E

> > " sensitive " . I also

> > > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can

> > tell me

> > > > best lab to go get work done, should I write in

> > the codes

> > > > for that particular lab?

> > > >

> > > > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone

> > result of

> > > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me

> > ranges - I

> > > > didn't think that this level was important so I

> > didn't

> > > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

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If your talking about the test for Testosterone and you put this #14966X in you

will get Total, Free, Bio, SHBG and some others.

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> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 10:00 AM

> Crap, I didn't write total on that rx

> - just the free's. Anyway, I called the drs. office to ask

> if I could write in the free's and cpt codes for quest to

> make sure they got it right. Figured I would have to wait

> for the dr. to call back, but the assistant said go ahead,

> just write in black like dr. did! Guess Totals will have to

> wait as were not self treating anyway. Pati

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > > > > Subject: labs ordered

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56

> AM

> > > > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > > > Yesterday, my son (age 24,

> kleinfelters)

> > > > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who

> is his

> > > only dr. and

> > > > > he rx's testosterone injections for my

> son)

> > > Anyway, I took

> > > > > in the long list of labs that I wanted

> him to

> > > have done -

> > > > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't

> believe it.

> > > He wrote it

> > > > > on a prescription pad, rather than just

> checking

> > > one of the

> > > > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be

> going to

> > > the lab in

> > > > > his building as I wanted to check our

> insurance

> > > coverage.

> > > > > There's a bit he missed and a little

> blank room

> > > on this

> > > > > paper so I intend to write a couple of

> things -

> > > here's what

> > > > > he wrote - what is the most important

> things that

> > > I am

> > > > > missing? Couple of funny things - I

> taught him

> > > the word

> > > > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the

> list, he

> > > said " wow,

> > > > > you're going to turn me into an

> endocrinologist "

> > > I told him

> > > > > about this forum and that doctors

> sometime

> > > posted, he

> > > > > thought it was great.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prolactin

> > > > > FSH

> > > > > LH

> > > > > Ferritin

> > > > > TSH

> > > > > Reverse T3

> > > > > Estrodial

> > > > > B 12

> > > > > progesterone

> > > > > DHEA

> > > > > Testosterone

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that I need to write " free "

> instead of

> > > just

> > > > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for

> E

> > > " sensitive " . I also

> > > > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free

> T$.

> > > > > Also, wondering if there is anything

> that you can

> > > tell me

> > > > > best lab to go get work done, should I

> write in

> > > the codes

> > > > > for that particular lab?

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know if his last lab - total

> testosterone

> > > result of

> > > > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't

> give me

> > > ranges - I

> > > > > didn't think that this level was

> important so I

> > > didn't

> > > > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------

> ------

> > > > >

> > > > >

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What a " quest " at Quest labs today when I took my son in for his blood work. Had

the codes written down that you told me about.....the lady there said " we don't

use codes, it's just for billing " After pleading my case, she did look a few

things up, kept telling me that there was only estradiol and ultra sensitive

estradiol (that was only for those under 18) she got so frustrated after making

calls to who ever, she finally turned the computer screen towards me and said,

this is what I have, what do you want - surprise there was #4021, so we got that

but were only able to get free and total testosterone - not the code that you

recommended. She also told me that there was no way to get the results except

thru the doctor as it was " his property " and unless he wrote on rx, record to

patient I would not be able to get them. I've never encountered that before.

Pati

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 11:32:20 PM

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

>  

> Do you think that I could write in " free/total T3 & T4 " ? I think that I would

have room if the lab would make sense of it written that way

>

>

> >

> > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > > Subject: labs ordered

> > >

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is his only dr. and

> > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son) Anyway, I took

> > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him to have done -

> > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe it. He wrote it

> > > on a prescription pad, rather than just checking one of the

> > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be going to the lab in

> > > his building as I wanted to check our insurance coverage.

> > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank room on this

> > > paper so I intend to write a couple of things - here's what

> > > he wrote - what is the most important things that I am

> > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught him the word

> > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list, he said " wow,

> > > you're going to turn me into an endocrinologist " I told him

> > > about this forum and that doctors sometime posted, he

> > > thought it was great.

> > >

> > > Prolactin

> > > FSH

> > > LH

> > > Ferritin

> > > TSH

> > > Reverse T3

> > > Estrodial

> > > B 12

> > > progesterone

> > > DHEA

> > > Testosterone

> > >

> > > I know that I need to write " free " instead of just

> > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E " sensitive " . I also

> > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > Also, wondering if there is anything that you can tell me

> > > best lab to go get work done, should I write in the codes

> > > for that particular lab?

> > >

> > > I don't know if his last lab - total testosterone result of

> > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give me ranges - I

> > > didn't think that this level was important so I didn't

> > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >

> > >

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This happens back in the day until I found my Dr. I had to go through this every

time I did labs and if I did not do it the wrong lags were done.

Go to Dr. 's forum and look up JanSz send him a PM and he will give you a

long list of codes for the labs that have nothing to do with billing.

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2

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Phil

> From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> Subject: Re: labs ordered

>

> Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 4:42 PM

>

> What a " quest " at Quest labs today when I took my son in

> for his blood work. Had the codes written down that you told

> me about.....the lady there said " we don't use codes, it's

> just for billing " After pleading my case, she did look a few

> things up, kept telling me that there was only estradiol and

> ultra sensitive estradiol (that was only for those under 18)

> she got so frustrated after making calls to who ever, she

> finally turned the computer screen towards me and said, this

> is what I have, what do you want - surprise there was #4021,

> so we got that but were only able to get free and total

> testosterone - not the code that you recommended. She also

> told me that there was no way to get the results except thru

> the doctor as it was " his property " and unless he wrote on

> rx, record to patient I would not be able to get them. I've

> never encountered that before. Pati

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: PatiA <patianderson3@...>

> >

> > Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 11:32:20 PM

> > Subject: Re: labs ordered

> >

> >  

> > Do you think that I could write in " free/total T3

> & T4 " ? I think that I would have room if the lab would

> make sense of it written that way

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > From: PatiA <patianderson3@ ...>

> > > > Subject: labs ordered

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 8:56 AM

> > > > Hi All, I'm pretty excited.

> > > > Yesterday, my son (age 24, kleinfelters)

> > > > had an appt. with our neurologist (who is

> his only dr. and

> > > > he rx's testosterone injections for my son)

> Anyway, I took

> > > > in the long list of labs that I wanted him

> to have done -

> > > > Doctor was so open to it, I couldn't believe

> it. He wrote it

> > > > on a prescription pad, rather than just

> checking one of the

> > > > forms as I told him that we wouldn't be

> going to the lab in

> > > > his building as I wanted to check our

> insurance coverage.

> > > > There's a bit he missed and a little blank

> room on this

> > > > paper so I intend to write a couple of

> things - here's what

> > > > he wrote - what is the most important things

> that I am

> > > > missing? Couple of funny things - I taught

> him the word

> > > > " aromatize " and when he looked at the list,

> he said " wow,

> > > > you're going to turn me into an

> endocrinologist " I told him

> > > > about this forum and that doctors sometime

> posted, he

> > > > thought it was great.

> > > >

> > > > Prolactin

> > > > FSH

> > > > LH

> > > > Ferritin

> > > > TSH

> > > > Reverse T3

> > > > Estrodial

> > > > B 12

> > > > progesterone

> > > > DHEA

> > > > Testosterone

> > > >

> > > > I know that I need to write " free " instead

> of just

> > > > Testosterone. Is the correct term for E

> " sensitive " . I also

> > > > want to write in  Free T3 and Free T$.

> > > > Also, wondering if there is anything that

> you can tell me

> > > > best lab to go get work done, should I write

> in the codes

> > > > for that particular lab?

> > > >

> > > > I don't know if his last lab - total

> testosterone result of

> > > > 170  tells you anything, he didn't give

> me ranges - I

> > > > didn't think that this level was important

> so I didn't

> > > > ask.  Thanks Loads, Pati

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > > >

> > > >

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