Re: Gels - do they always result in diminishing returns?

[Guest guest]

I have read this also but don't feel it's the Testosteone it's the skin it stops

letting the T in. Shots don't do this one of the guys here had this problem

with gels little by little his levels started going down.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...>

> Subject: Gels - do they always result in diminishing returns?

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> Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 4:53 PM

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> I read so many people on the boards who start on gels and

> are happy with them for a period (say 2 years or so) then

> people claim they don't work the same and then turn to

> injections.

>

> 1. Is this true - do gels only work for a certain period of

> time?

>

> 2. If so why would this be? (would the absorption rates

> decrease for some reason?..)

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> 3. Does the same effect happen with injections? (maybe to a

> lesser degree i.e. they work better for longer)

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>

> Chris

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[Guest guest]

I've been using Androgel for 4 years now and it still works well.  In fact,

when I added HCG to my regimen, I had to decrease the dose from 10 g to 7.5 g

because my testosterone went too high.

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From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...>

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 4:53:25 PM

Subject: Gels - do they always result in diminishing returns?

 

I read so many people on the boards who start on gels and are happy with them

for a period (say 2 years or so) then people claim they don't work the same and

then turn to injections.

1. Is this true - do gels only work for a certain period of time?

2. If so why would this be? (would the absorption rates decrease for some

reason?..)

3. Does the same effect happen with injections? (maybe to a lesser degree i.e.

they work better for longer)

Chris

[Guest guest]

Thanks guys - I always thought it may cause the skin to thicken and absorption

would decrease over time but again the below response proves it varies markably

from person to person.

Although 4 years would still be considered fairly early given that TRT is a

generally a lifelong commitment.

Ed - did you add hCG yourself or did your doctor prescribe it?

and how were your DHT levels on 10g of Androgel?

Not too many docs in the UK (or anywhere for that matter) would prescribe 10g of

Androgel (highest dosage) AND hCG.

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> I've been using Androgel for 4 years now and it still works well.  In fact,

when I added HCG to my regimen, I had to decrease the dose from 10 g to 7.5 g

because my testosterone went too high.

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> From: chrisdl2008 <chrisdl2008@...>

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> Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 4:53:25 PM

> Subject: Gels - do they always result in diminishing returns?

>

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> I read so many people on the boards who start on gels and are happy with them

for a period (say 2 years or so) then people claim they don't work the same and

then turn to injections.

>

> 1. Is this true - do gels only work for a certain period of time?

>

> 2. If so why would this be? (would the absorption rates decrease for some

reason?..)

>

> 3. Does the same effect happen with injections? (maybe to a lesser degree i.e.

they work better for longer)

>

> Chris

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[Guest guest]

Hi Spadeboy

Sounds like you have the perfect doc. I am in the UK and know I will face an

uphill battle to get the correct treatment to say the least and my symptoms have

been getting worse so need to seek out help this year definitely.

May I ask what hospital you doc is registered at? (if you don't want to name him

on board or even better of you could email name)

I would not necessarily us your doc as prob bit away from me but always good to

know as a last measure.

Did he also give you a proper diagnosis as to why you have low T?

Cheers

Chris

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> Hi there Chris

>

> My doc is in the UK (which figures I suppose given that so am I) and he

prescribes Testogel (Androgel in the US), HCG (Choragon) and Arimidex without

any problem. I take 10g of the gel (which amounts to two sachets). He goes a

lot by the lab results and will prescribe as much as he likes in order to get

the levels correct.

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> Hope it all goes well for you

>

> Ade

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