Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Good now post this so when Hardasnails comes back he will see this. He called me yesterday I was telling him about you he said the name of your problem with not being able to take thyroid meds it much the same as I was telling you. But he is better at this them me. Co-Moderator Phil > From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...> > Subject: Bruce Labs > > Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 9:08 PM > I was able to upload my labs > > http://chrismcelroydesigns.com/bruce/labs.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying to sort > through > > > my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone > issue. > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with hashimotos > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel and > androderm > > > patch. The gel was much better than the patch, > but i > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch was not > good at > > > all. It did the same thing to me that the > thyroid > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me there is now > a pellet > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 im curious... I started thyroid again yesterday. tiny amount .25 im exhausted today. ears ringing etc. sucks. im going to see my dr. tomorrow and talk to her about testosterone. Ive tried the gel and the patch. What exactly should i tell her that i want tested? should i ask her if she is willing to do shots(or pellet under lip) with me or something? what is that pellet called that just came out? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying to sort > > through > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone > > issue. > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with hashimotos > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel and > > androderm > > > > patch. The gel was much better than the patch, > > but i > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch was not > > good at > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that the > > thyroid > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me there is now > > a pellet > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hey Bruce, I do shots. They suck at first but once you get used to them, they aren't that bad. Plus they are cheaper than gels. Mike On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:47 AM, brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...>wrote: > > > im curious... I started thyroid again yesterday. tiny amount .25 im > exhausted today. ears ringing etc. sucks. > > im going to see my dr. tomorrow and talk to her about testosterone. Ive > tried the gel and the patch. What exactly should i tell her that i want > tested? should i ask her if she is willing to do shots(or pellet under lip) > with me or something? > > what is that pellet called that just came out? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying to sort > > > through > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone > > > issue. > > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with hashimotos > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel and > > > androderm > > > > > patch. The gel was much better than the patch, > > > but i > > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch was not > > > good at > > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that the > > > thyroid > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me there is now > > > a pellet > > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 The pellet you put on your gums is crap if it falls off you need to put on a new one every dam time I ate or drink water it fell off. Nice house no one home. You did not do good on the patch or gels so it's your skin is to thick from your bad Thyoid so try doing shots get Testosterone cypionate in a vial 200 mgs / ml. start with .5mls or 100 mgs shots every week do them your self in about 6 to 8 weeks go do labs see how your feeling. I use a 27g 1ml. x 1/2 " lg. needle and shoot into my thigh. Read this link on it and the info page. http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm What most men shoot for with levels is to try to get your Total T levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range or when you feel good what ever comes first. And test your Estraidol and keep it down to about 20 pg/ml this is about all you need to do. Co-Moderator Phil > From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...> > Subject: Re: Bruce Labs > > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 12:47 PM > im curious... I started thyroid again > yesterday. tiny amount .25 im > exhausted today. ears ringing etc. sucks. > > im going to see my dr. tomorrow and talk to her about > testosterone. Ive tried the gel and the patch. > What exactly should i tell her that i want tested? > should i ask her if she is willing to do shots(or pellet > under lip) with me or something? > > what is that pellet called that just came out? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying > to sort > > > through > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have > testosterone > > > issue. > > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 > (ranges > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with > hashimotos > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel > and > > > androderm > > > > > patch. The gel was much better than > the patch, > > > but i > > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch > was not > > > good at > > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that > the > > > thyroid > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me > there is now > > > a pellet > > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 my fear is doing the shot and then finding out i dont like them and you have the stuff inside of you and cant take it back out. bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying to sort > > > > through > > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have testosterone > > > > issue. > > > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 (ranges > > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with hashimotos > > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel and > > > > androderm > > > > > > patch. The gel was much better than the patch, > > > > but i > > > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch was not > > > > good at > > > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that the > > > > thyroid > > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me there is now > > > > a pellet > > > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I started thyroid hormone yesterday and feel like total ass. I went completely hypo from it. Im going to follow your lead here phil with the lab test, but do you think i should get thyroid under control first>? also thanks mikee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying > > to sort > > > > through > > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have > > testosterone > > > > issue. > > > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 > > (ranges > > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with > > hashimotos > > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel > > and > > > > androderm > > > > > > patch. The gel was much better than > > the patch, > > > > but i > > > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch > > was not > > > > good at > > > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that > > the > > > > thyroid > > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me > > there is now > > > > a pellet > > > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Bruce, Try doing a low dose shot and see what it does to you. I actually only take 60 mg per week. Just a thought. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:46 PM, brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...>wrote: > > > I started thyroid hormone yesterday and feel like total ass. I went > completely hypo from it. Im going to follow your lead here phil with the lab > test, but do you think i should get thyroid under control first>? > > also thanks mikee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am still trying > > > to sort > > > > > through > > > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also have > > > testosterone > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > My T was 215 and then it was 250 > > > (ranges > > > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old man with > > > hashimotos > > > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried androgel gel > > > and > > > > > androderm > > > > > > > patch. The gel was much better than > > > the patch, > > > > > but i > > > > > > > ended up getting off of it. The patch > > > was not > > > > > good at > > > > > > > all. It did the same thing to me that > > > the > > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. tells me > > > there is now > > > > > a pellet > > > > > > > he would like to explore for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 That my friend is why you need to find out why your low first. Yes going on TRT is for life but if your low Primary meaning your Testis don't work or Secondary meaning your Pituitary is not working right. And your very low your taking time off the back of your life and your not going to feel good off TRT. So find out why your low and if it can't be fixed try TRT. Co-Moderator Phil > From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...> > Subject: Re: Bruce Labs > > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:44 PM > my fear is doing the shot and then > finding out i dont like them and you have the stuff inside > of you and cant take it back out. > > bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i > am still trying to sort > > > > > through > > > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also > have testosterone > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > My T was 215 and then > it was 250 (ranges > > > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year > old man with hashimotos > > > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried > androgel gel and > > > > > androderm > > > > > > > patch. The gel was much > better than the patch, > > > > > but i > > > > > > > ended up getting off of > it. The patch was not > > > > > good at > > > > > > > all. It did the same > thing to me that the > > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. > tells me there is now > > > > > a pellet > > > > > > > he would like to explore for > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 If you need Testosterone meds and I can tell you there are some men not many that fixed there Thyroid and there Testosteone levels went up. Problem being it takes a long time to get leveled off on Thyroid. And if your Dr. is not up on Thyroid you might never get leveled. I know good Dr.'s that feel when one tests low for Testosterone, Cortisol and Thyroid and he finds nothing wrong lowering ones Testosteone he treats all 3 at the same time. He feels the stress of one or the other keeps the rest down. And I agree with this. Co-Moderator Phil > From: brucergoldberg <brucergoldberg@...> > Subject: Re: Bruce Labs > > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 6:46 PM > I started thyroid hormone yesterday > and feel like total ass. I went completely > hypo from it. Im going to follow your lead here phil > with the lab test, but do you think i should get thyroid > under control first>? > > also thanks mikee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, so i am > still trying > > > to sort > > > > > through > > > > > > > my thryoid issue but i also > have > > > testosterone > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > My T was 215 and then it > was 250 > > > (ranges > > > > > > > 400-800). I am 43 year old > man with > > > hashimotos > > > > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried > androgel gel > > > and > > > > > androderm > > > > > > > patch. The gel was much > better than > > > the patch, > > > > > but i > > > > > > > ended up getting off of it. > The patch > > > was not > > > > > good at > > > > > > > all. It did the same thing > to me that > > > the > > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > does(sent me hypo). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from what my dr. > tells me > > > there is now > > > > > a pellet > > > > > > > he would like to explore for > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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