New Labs

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Are you still on the three times a week? I think

it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in there!

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Are you still on the three times a week? I think

it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in there!

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Are you still on the three times a week? I think

it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in there!

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Are you still on the three times a week? I think

it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in there!

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

still the 3x3 shots they screwed up the script.

--- claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

wrote:

> Hi Connie,

> Are you still on the three times a week? I

> think

> it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in

> there!

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

still the 3x3 shots they screwed up the script.

--- claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

wrote:

> Hi Connie,

> Are you still on the three times a week? I

> think

> it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in

> there!

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

still the 3x3 shots they screwed up the script.

--- claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

wrote:

> Hi Connie,

> Are you still on the three times a week? I

> think

> it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in

> there!

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

still the 3x3 shots they screwed up the script.

--- claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

wrote:

> Hi Connie,

> Are you still on the three times a week? I

> think

> it all looks pretty good for 4 weeks. Hang in

> there!

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

hi rob thats wounderful and you have been out of meds for 4mths whats da trick

ma loads are very high and cd is 200 thou not on drugs yet

-- In cures for AIDS , " rob " <aspiringyogi@...> wrote:

>

> I got my new Lab results today I have been off my meds going on four months.

My Tcells were up 200 from 3 months ago and my Virals were at 100.

>

> Join my Group too

>

> http://www.hivunpluggedfriends.com/profile/robcook

>

>

>

> Peace

> Rob

>

[Guest guest]

Roni,

What is absolutely critical to interpreting these tests is the timing of your

last dose. If your doctor did not ask about that, there is a problem. Ideally,

you should stop taking T3 at least a day before the blood draw. Otherwise, the

spike in blood concentration following the meds will artificially suppress the

TSH. Unfortunately, TSH is rather slow to respond, so you will need to endure

some hypoT symptoms to get a proper reading.

Chuck

You wrote:

> Here are the new labs I have. Unfortunately he didn't test for RT3. I am

taking T3 only, and now he wants me to see an endo because he says I'm hyper as

per the TSH test. Grrrrrrr.

>  

> TSH     0.01  L               Range [0.40-5.00]

>  

> FreeT3       3.4              Range [2.3-4.2]

>  

> FreeT4      0.3 L            Range [0.6-1.6]

>  

> To me, this is the result we wanted by taking the T3 only in the first place.

The Free T3

> is upper range and the Free T4 is low. I don't know what the TSH is doing.

>  

> Please someone clear this up for me.

>  

[Guest guest]

I think that the test results you have now are what Chuck indicated you

should have when you're taking T3. If that is the case perhaps Chuck

can point you to something that would convince your doctor that your

numbers are fine [if that is the case]

Merry Christmas to All,

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3ANew%20Labs>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:47 pm (PST)

>

>

>

> Here are the new labs I have. Unfortunately he didn't test for RT3. I

> am taking T3 only, and now he wants me to see an endo because he says

> I'm hyper as per the TSH test. Grrrrrrr.

>

> TSH 0.01 L Range [0.40-5.00]

>

> FreeT3 3.4 Range [2.3-4.2]

>

> FreeT4 0.3 L Range [0.6-1.6]

>

> To me, this is the result we wanted by taking the T3 only in the first

> place. The Free T3

> is upper range and the Free T4 is low. I don't know what the TSH is doing.

>

> Please someone clear this up for me.

>

>

>

> Roni

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting , the support is so important to me right now.

 

I'm experiencing a great deal of edema in feet, legs, hands, face. It's so

swollen

it hurts, and I can barely get my shoes on.

 

I am so upset at this point. The endo he wants me to see is about an hour from

me in the city and I never go there on my own. I'm too afraid to do that on my

own. I don't know what to do. I hope Chuck does post about this.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re:New Labs

hypothyroidism

Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 9:00 AM

I think that the test results you have now are what Chuck indicated you

should have when you're taking T3.  If that is the case perhaps Chuck

can point you to something that would convince your doctor that your

numbers are fine [if that is the case]

Merry Christmas to All,

..

..

>

>       Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>       <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3ANew%20Labs>

>       matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

>         Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:47 pm (PST)

>

>

>

> Here are the new labs I have. Unfortunately he didn't test for RT3. I

> am taking T3 only, and now he wants me to see an endo because he says

> I'm hyper as per the TSH test. Grrrrrrr.

>

> TSH     0.01  L               Range [0.40-5.00]

>

> FreeT3       3.4              Range [2.3-4.2]

>

> FreeT4      0.3 L            Range [0.6-1.6]

>

> To me, this is the result we wanted by taking the T3 only in the first

> place. The Free T3

> is upper range and the Free T4 is low. I don't know what the TSH is doing.

>

> Please someone clear this up for me.

>

>

>

> Roni

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[Guest guest]

I took my last dose of liothyronine the evening before the test, about 7pm. The

test was at 11 am the following day. No, he didn't ask me anything about when I

previously dosed. Thank you for your information.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

> Here are the new labs I have. Unfortunately he didn't test for RT3. I am

taking T3 only, and now he wants me to see an endo because he says I'm hyper as

per the TSH test. Grrrrrrr.

>  

> TSH     0.01  L               Range [0.40-5.00]

>  

> FreeT3       3.4              Range [2.3-4.2]

>  

> FreeT4      0.3 L            Range [0.6-1.6]

>  

> To me, this is the result we wanted by taking the T3 only in the first place.

The Free T3

> is upper range and the Free T4 is low. I don't know what the TSH is doing.

>  

> Please someone clear this up for me.

>  

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[Guest guest]

elevated Alk phos can also be from bone. I speak from personal and professional

experience. If you have osteoporosis, then it may be from that. there is a

specific liver function test they can run to rule out liver, a GI doc will know

about it. I can't think of it at the moment.

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:32 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: New Labs

I got the labs today. With 50 mcgs of T3 only these are the numbers.

TSH 0.02 (L) Range ).40-500

T3 Total 155 " 80-200

T4 Free 0.2 (L) " 0.6-1.6

All the other CBC tests were fine and the kidneys are fine. The only things that

were out

of range were RDW 14.8 ( H) Range 11.0 - 14.5

and Alk Phos 123 ( H ) Range 31 - 98

I looked it up, and the Alk Phosphotase is a liver function test, and the only

thing that

I matched up with is that I do have gallstones (which have not given me any

trouble).

So I took my 2nd day of the diuretic the doctor rxd for me, and although it did

take down

some of the swelling, there is a considerable amount left.

If it's not my kidneys or my liver, it could be my heart function, which he's

going to do a stress echo on the 18th.

Any ideas or comments. By the way, just to reiterate, I'm going to a new endo in

Feb, who is supposed to be up on adrenals and thyroid.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I remember reading that it might be bone. I'll have to get tested for that.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: nancie barnett <deifspirit@...>

Subject: Re: New Labs

hypothyroidism

Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 8:37 PM

elevated Alk phos can also be from bone. I speak from personal and professional

experience. If you have osteoporosis, then it may be from that. there is a

specific liver function test they can run to rule out liver, a GI doc will know

about it. I can't think of it at the moment.

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:32 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: New Labs

 

I got the labs today. With 50 mcgs of T3 only these are the numbers.

TSH           0.02  (L)             Range ).40-500

T3 Total      155                      "        80-200

T4 Free     0.2  (L)                  "        0.6-1.6

All the other CBC tests were fine and the kidneys are fine. The only things that

were out

of range were RDW       14.8  ( H)    Range    11.0 - 14.5

and         Alk Phos        123  ( H )   Range      31 - 98

I looked it up, and the Alk Phosphotase is a liver function test, and the only

thing that

I matched up with is that I do have gallstones (which have not given me any

trouble).

So I took my 2nd day of the diuretic the doctor rxd for me, and although it did

take down

some of the swelling, there is a considerable amount left.

If it's not my kidneys or my liver, it could be my heart function, which he's

going to do a stress echo on the 18th.

Any ideas or comments. By the way, just to reiterate, I'm going to a new endo in

Feb, who is supposed to be up on adrenals and thyroid.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

[Guest guest]

Roni,

Again, the critical fraction is the FT3. Since he didn't test for TT4,

you can't estimate the binding. A common cause of excess binding is

adrenal, so you will be getting that checked by the new endo.

Elevated RDW suggests anemia or perhaps a B12 issue, although this is

also common with hypoT. At the very least, this will probably mean you

need more tests to rule things out.

Chuck

You wrote:

>

>

>

> I got the labs today. With 50 mcgs of T3 only these are the numbers.

>

> TSH 0.02 (L) Range ).40-500

>

> T3 Total 155 " 80-200

>

> T4 Free 0.2 (L) " 0.6-1.6

>

> All the other CBC tests were fine and the kidneys are fine. The only

> things that were out

> of range were RDW 14.8 ( H) Range 11.0 - 14.5

>

> and Alk Phos 123 ( H ) Range 31 - 98

>

> I looked it up, and the Alk Phosphotase is a liver function test, and

> the only thing that

> I matched up with is that I do have gallstones (which have not given me

> any trouble).

>

> So I took my 2nd day of the diuretic the doctor rxd for me, and although

> it did take down

> some of the swelling, there is a considerable amount left.

>

> If it's not my kidneys or my liver, it could be my heart function, which

> he's going to do a stress echo on the 18th.

>

> Any ideas or comments. By the way, just to reiterate, I'm going to a new

> endo in Feb, who is supposed to be up on adrenals and thyroid.

[Guest guest]

Roni,

You wrote:

>

>

> Special Note: These tests were taken in the afternoon, about 1/2 to 1

> hour after a dose of 10 mcg of T3 only.

Big mistake. FT3 is going to spike, giving your doctor a distorted view

of your " state, " unless he wanted you to do it this way and took the

spike into account. I don't know why anyone would want to do that.

>

> TSH 0.03 Range (0.34-5.6) Doctor likes

> to see 1.0

>

> FRT 3 5.2

> (2.2-4.3) 3.

>

> FRT4 < 0.25

> (0.57-1.25) 1.

>

A TSH of 1 is quite reasonable for T4 only meds. Since T3 spikes, TSH

can move more quickly than usual, giving this sort of hyperT impression.

I suggest you be very careful on future blood draws to delay taking

your meds until afterwards.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I fully intend to, and have a lab sheet from him for the next tests that I take.

I was downtown and this was the first time I've seen him, and had no idea that

he was going to have me tested then and there.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

> 

> 

> Special Note:  These tests were taken in the afternoon, about 1/2 to 1

> hour after a dose of 10 mcg of T3 only.

Big mistake. FT3 is going to spike, giving your doctor a distorted view

of your " state, " unless he wanted you to do it this way and took the

spike into account. I don't know why anyone would want to do that.

> 

> TSH    0.03                    Range (0.34-5.6)             Doctor likes

> to see 1.0

> 

> FRT 3    5.2                             

> (2.2-4.3)                                           3.

> 

> FRT4 < 0.25                             

> (0.57-1.25)                                        1.

> 

A TSH of 1 is quite reasonable for T4 only meds. Since T3 spikes, TSH

can move more quickly than usual, giving this sort of hyperT impression.

  I suggest you be very careful on future blood draws to delay taking

your meds until afterwards.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

I bet that scared you when he said 330. Mine was almost that high once. That is

when they put me on estrogen pills and didn't tell me I would need thyroid

checked more often.My cholesterol went way up there to 300.

Is your Ft4 a bit too low?

Betty

>

>

>

>

> These are the labs that were just done this week. On the 'phone the doctor

> said my total cholesterol was 330. He evidently made a mistake.

>  

>  

> CBC/Plt                  RANGE                            SCORE

>  

> WBC                      4 - 10                              H    10.5

> RBC                       4 - 5.30                           H      5.35

> Hgb                      12 - 15.0                           H      15.1

> Hct                        36.0 - 45.0                               44.5

> Mcv                       81 - 100                                   83

> MCH                     27.0 - 35.0                               28.

> MCHC                  32.0 - 37.0                              33.9

> RDW                          0 - 15.1                              14.3

> Platelet Ct.           150 - 400                                209 

>  

>  

> Diff (Abs)

>  

> Polys-auto                 2 - 7.50                                 6.99

> Lymphs                      1 - 4.50                                 2.69

> Monos                        0 - 1.40                                   .66

> Eosinophils                0 - 0.44                                  .18

> Basophils                   0- 0. 30                                0.04

>  

> CHOLESTEROL

>  

> Cholesterol               <200                              H         230

> HDL                          >59 high                                    71

> LDL                          130-159 Borderline high     H  131

> Triglycerides            <150                                          142

> VLDL(Calc)                                                                  

28

> Chol/HDL Ratio         <3.7(Below Av Risk F)           3.2

>  

> THYROID

>  

> TSH                        0.450 - 4.500                       L    0.026

> Thyroxine Fr            0.82 - 1.77                          L    0.09

> Free T3                   2.0 - 4.4                                     3.5

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> <>Roni

> Immortality exists!

> It's called knowledge!

>  

> Just because something isn't seen

> doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it did. I couldn't figure out why it would have gone that high. I was

relieved to see that it

was pretty much as it was before.

<>Roni

Immortality exists!

It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: Betty <bettyflager@...>

Subject: Re: New Labs

hypothyroidism

Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 2:51 PM

I bet that scared you when he said 330. Mine was almost that high once. That is

when they put me on estrogen pills and didn't tell me I would need thyroid

checked more often.My cholesterol went way up there to 300.

Is your Ft4 a bit too low?

Betty

>

>

>

>

> These are the labs that were just done this week. On the 'phone the doctor

> said my total cholesterol was 330. He evidently made a mistake.

>  

>  

> CBC/Plt                  RANGE                            SCORE

>  

> WBC                      4 - 10                              H    10.5

> RBC                       4 - 5.30                           H      5.35

> Hgb                      12 - 15.0                           H      15.1

> Hct                        36.0 - 45.0                               44.5

> Mcv                       81 - 100                                   83

> MCH                     27.0 - 35.0                               28.

> MCHC                  32.0 - 37.0                              33.9

> RDW                          0 - 15.1                              14.3

> Platelet Ct.           150 - 400                                209 

>  

>  

> Diff (Abs)

>  

> Polys-auto                 2 - 7.50                                 6.99

> Lymphs                      1 - 4.50                                 2.69

> Monos                        0 - 1.40                                   .66

> Eosinophils                0 - 0.44                                  .18

> Basophils                   0- 0. 30                                0.04

>  

> CHOLESTEROL

>  

> Cholesterol               <200                              H         230

> HDL                          >59 high                                    71

> LDL                          130-159 Borderline high     H  131

> Triglycerides            <150                                          142

> VLDL(Calc)                                                                  

28

> Chol/HDL Ratio         <3.7(Below Av Risk F)           3.2

>  

> THYROID

>  

> TSH                        0.450 - 4.500                       L    0.026

> Thyroxine Fr            0.82 - 1.77                          L    0.09

> Free T3                   2.0 - 4.4                                     3.5

>  

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> <>Roni

> Immortality exists!

> It's called knowledge!

>  

> Just because something isn't seen

> doesn't mean it's not there<>

>

>

>       

>

>

[Guest guest]

Guys stop seeing Endo's or letting your Dr. send you to see them they are not up

on low Testosterone. I feel all they are good for is high sugar. For a Dr. to

test only Free T and this is cal. not a true test of all the Testosterone your

Testis make the Total amount only 1 to 2 % is free Bioavailable is much better

the Free. Here is what I get at Quest. With this test you evern get SHBG.

If your Total T was 800 and your Free was up past mid range your in good shape.

But if your Total is 200 and your Free it say at the top of the range your sill

in dam bad shape.

Estradiol sensitive Code #4021

Testosterone, Free, Bioavailable & Total LC/MS/MS Code # 14966X.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: bigruss200 <bigruss200@...>

> Subject: Re: new labs

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 9:14 PM

> thanks, I asked this new internal med

> Dr what my total T number was for this batch of labs when I

> went in today, and his answer was that " he doesn't test for

> total T....free T is what makes a difference. " I have had

> total T tested 3 times since January,#s 92, 268 on 5mg

> andro, 118 on 2.5mg andro) so it just didn't make sense why

> it was not tested again. When the labs were ordered I

> thought total T was ordered along with estradiol and

> cortisol. But when I went in today no total T, no estadiol,

> no cort. Sooooo frustrating! I have been to one endo and

> this is my secong Dr. I have an appt with a different endo

> in 2 weeks that is NOT in the same hospital system, so I am

> so hoping that he knows something. I am realizing I am

> probably going to end up making the 8hr drive to

> lansing....to get anywhere.

>

>

>

> >

> > > From: bigruss200 <bigruss200@...>

> > > Subject: new labs

> > >

> > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:36 PM

> > > I just had my newest batch of labs

> > > done and my FREE test came back as 118.2 (range

> 47-244

> > > pg/ml), FSH 1.1 (range 1.5-12.4), and LH 3.2

> (range

> > > 1.7-8.6). My doc thinks these number are " normal "

> and I have

> > > nothing to be concerned about. But for being a 34

> yr old guy

> > > 118.2 for free test seems a but low to me? yeah

> the 118.2 is

> > > better than the 23.8 number that I had 2.5 months

> ago....but

> > > still. I am thinking I may have to be making the

> trip to see

> > > Dr. . any thoughts on 118.2 for a free

> number?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

Here are my labs as of last week. These levels are at 60mg of TC per week with

250 iu of hcg two days before the T shot. Also, the thyroid levels are at 75mcg

& 100 mcg of Synthroid alternate days.

Now I think I will have to increase my TC to 100mg per week.

TSH (3rd Gen) - 2.6 (Ref:0.4 - 4.5 mIU/L)

T3 Free 308 - (Ref: 230- 420 pg/dl)

T4 Free 1.3 - (Ref: 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dl)

My doc did not order reverse T3 & T4 for what ever the reason.

Testosterone, Total - 599 (Ref: 250 - 1100ng/dl)

Testosterone, Free - 109 (Ref: 46 - 224 pg/ml)

Testosterone, Bioavailable - 219.4 (Ref: 110 - 575 ng/dl)

E2 - 39, (Ref: 13 - 54 pg/ml)

I will have another set of labs for Testosterone done 3.5 days after the Test

shot only with 1 tab of DIM a day.

Based on these two I will get my 3rd set then my 4th and the 5th set.

So I will know what exactly is my dose and if DIM is good enough or arimidex is

needed etc. My doc is really cooperative to order these many labs and review

them.

I appreciate all your suggestions.

Thank you Phil and Barb and all others once again.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Barb. My doc gave me Cytomel 5mg last year but I felt its making my

knees pain so he asked me to stop. But may be I will try again and see. Also,

the reason that I am taking alternate doses of synthroid is that I got some from

India and the brand name called " Thyronorm " and it comes in 25mcg, 50, 75, 100

doses. The cost is much cheaper and the quality is very good. A 100 day supply

cost me about $5.00 and instead of paying everymonth a copay of $5, I am taking

some help from friends who travel frequently to India.

My Ferritin and Cortisol levels were not checked last week but they were checked

about 15days ago and they are good. I will check my labs and will post the

numbers.

Finally, the frequency of shots, I dont like the shots that much so I want to

keep them at minimum. I use a 26 gauge needle for my T shots and am thinking of

trying much smaller needles here after. Sometimes I think there is no way that

the Test will be delivered with a smaller needle.

Thank you,

Joe

> >

> > Hello Barb,

> >

> > Here are my labs as of last week. These levels are at 60mg of TC per week

with 250 iu of hcg two days before the T shot. Also, the thyroid levels are at

75mcg & 100 mcg of Synthroid alternate days.

> >

> > Now I think I will have to increase my TC to 100mg per week.

> >

> > TSH (3rd Gen) - 2.6 (Ref:0.4 - 4.5 mIU/L)

> >

> > T3 Free 308 - (Ref: 230- 420 pg/dl)

> >

> > T4 Free 1.3 - (Ref: 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dl)

> >

> > My doc did not order reverse T3 & T4 for what ever the reason.

> >

> > Testosterone, Total - 599 (Ref: 250 - 1100ng/dl)

> > Testosterone, Free - 109 (Ref: 46 - 224 pg/ml)

> > Testosterone, Bioavailable - 219.4 (Ref: 110 - 575 ng/dl)

> >

> > E2 - 39, (Ref: 13 - 54 pg/ml)

> >

> > I will have another set of labs for Testosterone done 3.5 days after the

Test shot only with 1 tab of DIM a day.

> >

> > Based on these two I will get my 3rd set then my 4th and the 5th set.

> >

> > So I will know what exactly is my dose and if DIM is good enough or arimidex

is needed etc. My doc is really cooperative to order these many labs and review

them.

> >

> > I appreciate all your suggestions.

> >

> > Thank you Phil and Barb and all others once again.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Joe I have been using a smaller needle for yrs. I use a 27g 1ml x 1/2 " lg.

needle and shoot into my thigh doing my Test C shot every 3 days. To get the

oil out of the vial I just pull the plunger all the way down and hold it takes

about a min. to get .4 mls. When you use a small needle and do the shot it

comes out slow and this is what you want.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: inc_100 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: New Labs

>

> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 10:03 PM

> Thank you Barb. My doc gave me

> Cytomel 5mg last year but I felt its making my knees pain so

> he asked me to stop. But may be I will try again and see.

> Also, the reason that I am taking alternate doses of

> synthroid is that I got some from India and the brand name

> called " Thyronorm " and it comes in 25mcg, 50, 75, 100 doses.

> The cost is much cheaper and the quality is very good. A 100

> day supply cost me about $5.00 and instead of paying

> everymonth a copay of $5, I am taking some help from friends

> who travel frequently to India.

>

> My Ferritin and Cortisol levels were not checked last week

> but they were checked about 15days ago and they are good. I

> will check my labs and will post the numbers.

>

> Finally, the frequency of shots, I dont like the shots that

> much so I want to keep them at minimum. I use a 26 gauge

> needle for my T shots and am thinking of trying much smaller

> needles here after. Sometimes I think there is no way that

> the Test will be delivered with a smaller needle.

>

> Thank you,

> Joe

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello Barb,

> > >

> > > Here are my labs as of last week. These levels

> are at 60mg of TC per week with 250 iu of hcg two days

> before the T shot. Also, the thyroid levels are at 75mcg

> & 100 mcg of Synthroid alternate days.

> > >

> > > Now I think I will have to increase my TC to

> 100mg per week.

> > >

> > > TSH (3rd Gen) - 2.6 (Ref:0.4 - 4.5 mIU/L)

> > >

> > > T3 Free 308 - (Ref: 230- 420 pg/dl)

> > >

> > > T4 Free 1.3 - (Ref: 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dl)

> > >

> > > My doc did not order reverse T3 & T4 for what

> ever the reason.

> > >

> > > Testosterone, Total - 599 (Ref: 250 - 1100ng/dl)

> > > Testosterone, Free  -  109  (Ref:

> 46 - 224 pg/ml)

> > > Testosterone, Bioavailable - 219.4 (Ref: 110 -

> 575 ng/dl)

> > >

> > > E2 - 39, (Ref: 13 - 54 pg/ml)

> > >

> > > I will have another set of labs for Testosterone

> done 3.5 days after the Test shot only with 1 tab of DIM a

> day.

> > >

> > > Based on these two I will get my 3rd set then my

> 4th and the 5th set.

> > >

> > > So I will know what exactly is my dose and if DIM

> is good enough or arimidex is needed etc. My doc is really

> cooperative to order these many labs and review them.

> > >

> > > I appreciate all your suggestions.

> > >

> > > Thank you Phil and Barb and all others once

> again.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Phil and others. I use a 27 g needle for my Hcg but a 26 g for my TC.

It takes a long time for the med to go in using a 27g but I think I will try it

next time. I can handle 27g but 26 is kind of painful to me. (I dont like

needles)

For that reason I like to take my shots every week or 10days. But may be over

the time I may get used to them.

I will also contact Dr. to see if he thinks jumpstarting is a good idea for

me.

Also, I tried the HBOT today and I think I will start the therapy from Monday.

I want to see if something works....

Joe

> > > >

> > > > Hello Barb,

> > > >

> > > > Here are my labs as of last week. These levels

> > are at 60mg of TC per week with 250 iu of hcg two days

> > before the T shot. Also, the thyroid levels are at 75mcg

> > & 100 mcg of Synthroid alternate days.

> > > >

> > > > Now I think I will have to increase my TC to

> > 100mg per week.

> > > >

> > > > TSH (3rd Gen) - 2.6 (Ref:0.4 - 4.5 mIU/L)

> > > >

> > > > T3 Free 308 - (Ref: 230- 420 pg/dl)

> > > >

> > > > T4 Free 1.3 - (Ref: 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dl)

> > > >

> > > > My doc did not order reverse T3 & T4 for what

> > ever the reason.

> > > >

> > > > Testosterone, Total - 599 (Ref: 250 - 1100ng/dl)

> > > > Testosterone, Free  -  109  (Ref:

> > 46 - 224 pg/ml)

> > > > Testosterone, Bioavailable - 219.4 (Ref: 110 -

> > 575 ng/dl)

> > > >

> > > > E2 - 39, (Ref: 13 - 54 pg/ml)

> > > >

> > > > I will have another set of labs for Testosterone

> > done 3.5 days after the Test shot only with 1 tab of DIM a

> > day.

> > > >

> > > > Based on these two I will get my 3rd set then my

> > 4th and the 5th set.

> > > >

> > > > So I will know what exactly is my dose and if DIM

> > is good enough or arimidex is needed etc. My doc is really

> > cooperative to order these many labs and review them.

> > > >

> > > > I appreciate all your suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you Phil and Barb and all others once

> > again.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >