Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Dear Mike; I have not read the article. All things in excess are toxic. The best level of testosterone is at the top of the normal range, not in the middle. You need the top level to fire on all cylinders. Also circulating DHT (not locally acumulated DHT) needs to be high end for good function of male equipment. Quareetz > > Hey Group, > > I found this article and I'm hoping that one of the good docs who are on > this group (or anyone for that matter) can comment. I don't have a > subscription to pub med, so I wasn't able to see how much testosterone they > were feeding the cells. So, at the moment, I'm not able to translate that > amount to the amounts we give ourselves. Thanks for the info... > > > http://www.jbc.org/content/281/35/25492.abstract > > Regards, > > > > -- > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks for the response, Quareetz. My concern lies with the injectable testosterone. Since we inject a large dose initially to sustain us for a week, would this initial dose cause any damage? I'm not that familiar with how IM shots get disseminated in the body. Is is gradually absorbed or all at once? I think it is gradually but I would like to get a definitive answer. Thanks for any clarification. Regards, MIke On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:23 PM, parashont <saltflat@...> wrote: > > > Dear Mike; > I have not read the article. All things in excess are toxic. The best level > of testosterone is at the top of the normal range, not in the middle. You > need the top level to fire on all cylinders. Also circulating DHT (not > locally acumulated DHT) needs to be high end for good function of male > equipment. > > Quareetz > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > I found this article and I'm hoping that one of the good docs who are on > > this group (or anyone for that matter) can comment. I don't have a > > subscription to pub med, so I wasn't able to see how much testosterone > they > > were feeding the cells. So, at the moment, I'm not able to translate that > > amount to the amounts we give ourselves. Thanks for the info... > > > > > > http://www.jbc.org/content/281/35/25492.abstract > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 In this link it's for women becoming men but it's full of info Test C and Test E shots are in oil and last about 8 days. After your shot the levels in your blood for Testosterone will peak then start falling off so by your next shot in 7 days your on the low side. This is why doing shots every 2 weeks does not work. http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#cypionate Men with low T get damaged you need Testosterone to keep your joints and muscles healthy with out it you will suffer bone loss and many other problems. Anyone can over do it with Testosterone and end up with problems. I don't know of any men having damgae to there body from being on TRT with a good Dr. The only bad side is your blood can get thicker this is rare and you can get high Estradiol levels. But a lot of older men not on TRT have higher Estradiol levels Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > Dear Mike; > > I have not read the article. All things in excess are > toxic. The best level > > of testosterone is at the top of the normal range, not > in the middle. You > > need the top level to fire on all cylinders. Also > circulating DHT (not > > locally acumulated DHT) needs to be high end for good > function of male > > equipment. > > > > Quareetz > > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > I found this article and I'm hoping that one of > the good docs who are on > > > this group (or anyone for that matter) can > comment. I don't have a > > > subscription to pub med, so I wasn't able to see > how much testosterone > > they > > > were feeding the cells. So, at the moment, I'm > not able to translate that > > > amount to the amounts we give ourselves. Thanks > for the info... > > > > > > > > > http://www.jbc.org/content/281/35/25492.abstract > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Thanks Phil! On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:58 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote: > > > In this link it's for women becoming men but it's full of info Test C and > Test E shots are in oil and last about 8 days. After your shot the levels in > your blood for Testosterone will peak then start falling off so by your next > shot in 7 days your on the low side. This is why doing shots every 2 weeks > does not work. > http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#cypionate > > Men with low T get damaged you need Testosterone to keep your joints and > muscles healthy with out it you will suffer bone loss and many other > problems. Anyone can over do it with Testosterone and end up with problems. > I don't know of any men having damgae to there body from being on TRT with a > good Dr. > > The only bad side is your blood can get thicker this is rare and you can > get high Estradiol levels. But a lot of older men not on TRT have higher > Estradiol levels > Co-Moderator > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mike; > > > I have not read the article. All things in excess are > > toxic. The best level > > > of testosterone is at the top of the normal range, not > > in the middle. You > > > need the top level to fire on all cylinders. Also > > circulating DHT (not > > > locally acumulated DHT) needs to be high end for good > > function of male > > > equipment. > > > > > > Quareetz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Group, > > > > > > > > I found this article and I'm hoping that one of > > the good docs who are on > > > > this group (or anyone for that matter) can > > comment. I don't have a > > > > subscription to pub med, so I wasn't able to see > > how much testosterone > > > they > > > > were feeding the cells. So, at the moment, I'm > > not able to translate that > > > > amount to the amounts we give ourselves. Thanks > > for the info... > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jbc.org/content/281/35/25492.abstract > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mike > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 They fed them a ton. Therefore, the " study " has no value in the real world-other than to brainwash conventional doctors who won't apply a brain cell of their own to its validity. It's like saying aspirin, or Coumadin, or any other drug, at huge dose will hurt you, so they are all bad ay any dose. I cannot believe that garbage even got funded. Be well! Regards, Crisler, DO Anti-Aging Medicine The information contained in this message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above, and is protected by state and federal law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately, and delete the original message. We would certainly do the same for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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