Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 This is from Dr. no's site explaining the connection between low thyroid, low cortisol, high epinephrine (anxiety), and low iron/ferritin. If you donate blood more than twice a year, you will deplete your ferritin. Dr. no prefers a ferritin of 150 in men. http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133 & highlight=Iron\ +works+c\ ellular+metabolic <http://www.definitivemind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133 & highlight=Iro\ n+works+cellular+metabolic> " When a person develops hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis dysregulation, which lowers cortisol production, norepinephrine signaling may end up being high - particularly at night. One of the reasons norepinephrine signaling is highest at night, I suspect, is that a defensive behavioral program is being triggered by the immune system, via pro-inflammatory signals. Pro-inflammatory signals are also released by the brain when norepinephrine signaling is high. Norepinephrine is the primary signal for stress. The purpose of high norepinephrine signaling at night is to cause a person to be awake at night. This is an old program which may deal with watching out for predators at night. Unfortunately, this causes dysfunction in the modern world. Cortisol/hydrocortisone, is one of the control signals on norepinephrine. It breaks the norepinephrine positive feedback loop with CRH (Corticotropin releasing hormone), which tends to keep norepinephrine at high levels. Generally, one of the reasons norepinephrine signaling is high is to compensate for impaired energy production that is caused by the lack of thyroid hormone production and impaired energy production that is caused by a deficit in iron stores (low ferritin level). Norepinephrine, itself, is not only a signal for distress and wakefulness, it is also a signal for energy. Excessive norepinephrine signaling leads to an activation of the immune system via an increase in brain pro-inflammatory cytokine signaling and direct norepinephrine signaling to immune system cells, which then release more pro-inflammatory cytokine signals. This in turn triggers defensive programs in the brain. One of them leads to adrenal problems - via hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis dysregulation. Generally, I do not see improvement in adrenal function unless iron stores become optimized (e.g. in women this is a ferritin of about 100-120). Treatment with cortisol/hydrocortisone primarily is a bandage treatment when cellular metabolism, itself, is impaired by suboptimal iron stores. When hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis dysregulation is significant, thyroid treatment becomes intolerable. A TSH > 5 indicates a huge deficit in thyroid signaling. The problem is that so long as a thyroid signal deficit is present, norepinephrine signaling remains compensatorily high, and HPA Axis dysregulation continues. Generally, once adrenal function is supported adequately, thyroid treatment may be started. However, if metabolic-nutritional problems exist, they would have to be addressed first, before adrenal function can be restored. With significant adrenal signaling problems, Levothyroxine is a more tolerable solution than one containing T3. In women, progesterone is an option for adrenal signaling support. It provides precursors for the other signals including cortisol. It also helps reduce norepinephrine signaling via its metabolites, such as allopregnenolone, which works by increasing GABA sensitivity in the nervous system. As such it provides multiple pathways to treating HPA Axis dysregulation. " Romeo B. no, MD, physician, psychiatrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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