Re: Even thicker blood! Help!

[Guest guest]

I can't tell you what to do but if I were you I would give some blood you have

your Dr. take it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Even thicker blood! Help!

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

> The analyze I did on 15th of August,

> 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it was a lab

> error and the REAL answer is

> 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I DO?

> HELP!!!

>

>

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>      

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[Guest guest]

Dr's office closes at 3 pm, it's 4 pm now.

He just called me, my GP, and said I will go to a hospital tomorrow morning.

They will test my blood for whatever.

See what worries me is this: ADRENAL FATIGUE is not a real diganose in the

world's public health system. HYPOTHYROIDISM TYPE 2 (w/ cell risistance to T3)

is not a real diagnose either.

I am, in other words, HEALTHY. I am on HC and ERFA Thyroid, amongst other

things. What if they remove my meds? While I am in a coma or something?

I mean... I feel like the Dr's are gonna kill me!

AND WHAT ABOUT MY THEORY: (This is a theory only!)I am drinking more and more

plan water without salt now. My body won't hold onto the water cause I am not

getting enough salt. My body does not hold onto salt either. As a result,

drinking more and more water will DEHYDRATE ME causing my blood to become

THICKER like it is now. Is this a possible theory???

Hertoghe's clinic just rejected me on the phone leaving me furious. They don't

wanna talk to me on the phone, telling me " I am too worried and this is my only

problem! " WTF???????

> From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

> Subject: Even thicker blood! Help!

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

> The analyze I did on 15th of August,

> 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it was a lab

> error and the REAL answer is

> 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I DO?

> HELP!!!

>

>

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before I checked in to the Hosp. I would make it very clear not to change my

meds without going over it with me or my wife. If they stoped your HC you can

go into Adrenal Crisis don't tell them you have Adrenal Fatigue this is a bad

name for it. Tell them you suffer from Adrenal Insufficiency.

Yes if your sodium levels are low drinking water can make you more DEHYDRATED.

Read this link.

http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

===================================================

In adrenal fatigue, the craving for salt is a direct result of the lack of

adequate aldosterone. As mentioned above, aldosterone controls sodium, potassium

and fluid volumes in your body. When aldosterone secretions are normal,

potassium, sodium and fluid levels are also normal. When aldosterone is high,

sodium is kept high in the fluids circulating in your body.

However, as circulating aldosterone levels fall, sodium is removed from your

bloodstream as it passes through the kidneys and is excreted in the urine. When

sodium is excreted it takes water with it. Initially, there is some loss of

volume of your body fluids but it does not become severe unless the condition

worsens. Once your circulating sodium level drops to about 50% of its original

concentration in body fluids, even a small loss of sodium or sodium restriction

in your diet begins to have severe consequences. Tiny fluctuations in blood

sodium concentration have a significant effect o blood volume when sodium is

depleted to this level.

When the sodium supply of the blood is not replenished by eating salt-containing

foods or liquids, sodium and water is pulled from your interstitial fluids into

the blood to keep your blood sodium levels and water volume from getting too

low. If too much salt or fluid is pulled from the interstitial fluids, the small

amount of sodium in the cells begins to migrate out of the cells into the

interstitial fluid.

The cell does not have a great reserve of sodium because it needs to maintain

its 15:1 ratio of potassium to sodium. As the sodium is pulled from the cell,

water follows the sodium out.

This leaves the cell dehydrated as well as sodium deficient. In addition, in

order to keep the sodium/potassium ratio inside the cell constant, potassium

then begins to migrate out in small quantities. However, each cell has minimum

requirements for the absolute amounts of sodium, potassium and water necessary

for its proper function. When these requirements are not met, cell function

suffers, even if the proper ratio is maintained.

If you are suffering from moderately severe adrenal fatigue, you must be careful

how you re-hydrate yourself. Drinking much water or liquid without adequate

sodium replacement will make you feel worse because it will dilute the amount of

sodium in your blood even further. Also, your cells need salt to absorb fluids

because sufficient sodium must be inside the cell before water can be pulled

back across the membrane into the cell.

When you are already low on body fluids and electrolytes, as you are in this

situation, you should always add salt to your water. Do not drink soft drinks or

electrolyte-rich sports drinks, like Gatorade, because they are high in

potassium and low in sodium, the opposite of what someone with low cortisol

levels who is dehydrated needs. Commercial electrolyte replacement drinks are

designed for people who produce an excess of cortisol when exercising, not

people who are low on cortisol and aldosterone. Instead, yo are much better off

having a glass of water with ¼ - 1 teaspoon salt in it, or eating something

salty with water to help replenish both sodium and fluid volume.

In a nation of people suffering from adrenal fatigue, the fast food restaurants

come to the rescue. Such restaurants use an excessive amount of salt in their

foods; a custom left-over from the old road houses where lots of salt was used

in the food to stimulate appetites and whet the thirst (for alcohol, the biggest

profit item). Although not a good solution, it supplies “emergency†rations

daily to people living in marginal health. It averts the crisis and replenishes

their supplies for another few hours.

When your aldosterone levels are low and you are dehydrated and sodium

deficient, you may also crave potassium because your body is sending you the

message that your cells are low on potassium as well as sodium and water.

However, after consuming only a small amount of potassium containing foods or

beverages (fruit, fruit juice, sodas and commercial electrolyte replacement

drinks), you will probably feel worse because the potassium/sodium ration will

be further disrupted.

What you really need in this situation is a combination of all three, water,

salt and potassium in the right proportions. One of the easiest ways to

accomplish this is to drink small repeated doses of water accompanied by a

little food sprinkled with kelp powder. Kelp powder contains both potassium and

sodium in an easily assimilated form. Depending upon taste and symptoms, extra

salt can be added. Sea salt is a better choice than regular refined table salt,

because it contains trace amounts of other minerals in addition to the sodium.

Another choice is to drink a vegetable juice blend containing some celery and

chard and diluted with purified water.

Usually, within 24-48 hours, your hydration and electrolyte balance will have

stabilized enough that you can proceed to an adrenal-supporting diet. You must

continue to be careful to drink salted water or vegetable juices 2-4 times

during the day, varying the amount of salt according to your taste, and you

should avoid potassium-containing foods in the morning when your cortisol and

aldosterone levels are low. Never eat or drink electrolyte-depleting or diuretic

foods and beverages such as alcohol and coffee, especially if you have been out

in the sun or are otherwise dehydrated. One of the problems people with adrenal

fatigue constantly deal with is a mild dehydration and sodium depletion.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

>

>

> > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

>

> > Subject: Even thicker blood! Help!

>

> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

>

> > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

>

> > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it was a

> lab

>

> > error and the REAL answer is

>

> > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I DO?

>

> > HELP!!!

>

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

As thanks Phil! That's what I'm talking about!

So if this is true, why do GP and Even Hertoghe and his docs keep telling me I

need to quit salt and only drink more plain water then?

Are they all trying to kill me?

My aldosterone is not low however. It is mid range. Doesn't that prove I don't

need extra salt?

I am trying to figure out why my bloodgets thicker, and it's a bit confusing

when GP tells me blood gets thicker by drinking sea salted water!

T.

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Den 18. aug. 2010 kl. 18.39 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Before I checked in to the Hosp. I would make it very clear not to change my

meds without going over it with me or my wife. If they stoped your HC you can go

into Adrenal Crisis don't tell them you have Adrenal Fatigue this is a bad name

for it. Tell them you suffer from Adrenal Insufficiency.

Yes if your sodium levels are low drinking water can make you more DEHYDRATED.

Read this link.

http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

===================================================

In adrenal fatigue, the craving for salt is a direct result of the lack of

adequate aldosterone. As mentioned above, aldosterone controls sodium, potassium

and fluid volumes in your body. When aldosterone secretions are normal,

potassium, sodium and fluid levels are also normal. When aldosterone is high,

sodium is kept high in the fluids circulating in your body.

However, as circulating aldosterone levels fall, sodium is removed from your

bloodstream as it passes through the kidneys and is excreted in the urine. When

sodium is excreted it takes water with it. Initially, there is some loss of

volume of your body fluids but it does not become severe unless the condition

worsens. Once your circulating sodium level drops to about 50% of its original

concentration in body fluids, even a small loss of sodium or sodium restriction

in your diet begins to have severe consequences. Tiny fluctuations in blood

sodium concentration have a significant effect o blood volume when sodium is

depleted to this level.

When the sodium supply of the blood is not replenished by eating salt-containing

foods or liquids, sodium and water is pulled from your interstitial fluids into

the blood to keep your blood sodium levels and water volume from getting too

low. If too much salt or fluid is pulled from the interstitial fluids, the small

amount of sodium in the cells begins to migrate out of the cells into the

interstitial fluid.

The cell does not have a great reserve of sodium because it needs to maintain

its 15:1 ratio of potassium to sodium. As the sodium is pulled from the cell,

water follows the sodium out.

This leaves the cell dehydrated as well as sodium deficient. In addition, in

order to keep the sodium/potassium ratio inside the cell constant, potassium

then begins to migrate out in small quantities. However, each cell has minimum

requirements for the absolute amounts of sodium, potassium and water necessary

for its proper function. When these requirements are not met, cell function

suffers, even if the proper ratio is maintained.

If you are suffering from moderately severe adrenal fatigue, you must be careful

how you re-hydrate yourself. Drinking much water or liquid without adequate

sodium replacement will make you feel worse because it will dilute the amount of

sodium in your blood even further. Also, your cells need salt to absorb fluids

because sufficient sodium must be inside the cell before water can be pulled

back across the membrane into the cell.

When you are already low on body fluids and electrolytes, as you are in this

situation, you should always add salt to your water. Do not drink soft drinks or

electrolyte-rich sports drinks, like Gatorade, because they are high in

potassium and low in sodium, the opposite of what someone with low cortisol

levels who is dehydrated needs. Commercial electrolyte replacement drinks are

designed for people who produce an excess of cortisol when exercising, not

people who are low on cortisol and aldosterone. Instead, yo are much better off

having a glass of water with ¼ - 1 teaspoon salt in it, or eating something

salty with water to help replenish both sodium and fluid volume.

In a nation of people suffering from adrenal fatigue, the fast food restaurants

come to the rescue. Such restaurants use an excessive amount of salt in their

foods; a custom left-over from the old road houses where lots of salt was used

in the food to stimulate appetites and whet the thirst (for alcohol, the biggest

profit item). Although not a good solution, it supplies “emergency†rations

daily to people living in marginal health. It averts the crisis and replenishes

their supplies for another few hours.

When your aldosterone levels are low and you are dehydrated and sodium

deficient, you may also crave potassium because your body is sending you the

message that your cells are low on potassium as well as sodium and water.

However, after consuming only a small amount of potassium containing foods or

beverages (fruit, fruit juice, sodas and commercial electrolyte replacement

drinks), you will probably feel worse because the potassium/sodium ration will

be further disrupted.

What you really need in this situation is a combination of all three, water,

salt and potassium in the right proportions. One of the easiest ways to

accomplish this is to drink small repeated doses of water accompanied by a

little food sprinkled with kelp powder. Kelp powder contains both potassium and

sodium in an easily assimilated form. Depending upon taste and symptoms, extra

salt can be added. Sea salt is a better choice than regular refined table salt,

because it contains trace amounts of other minerals in addition to the sodium.

Another choice is to drink a vegetable juice blend containing some celery and

chard and diluted with purified water.

Usually, within 24-48 hours, your hydration and electrolyte balance will have

stabilized enough that you can proceed to an adrenal-supporting diet. You must

continue to be careful to drink salted water or vegetable juices 2-4 times

during the day, varying the amount of salt according to your taste, and you

should avoid potassium-containing foods in the morning when your cortisol and

aldosterone levels are low. Never eat or drink electrolyte-depleting or diuretic

foods and beverages such as alcohol and coffee, especially if you have been out

in the sun or are otherwise dehydrated. One of the problems people with adrenal

fatigue constantly deal with is a mild dehydration and sodium depletion.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

>

>

> > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

>

> > Subject: Even thicker blood! Help!

>

> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

>

> > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

>

> > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it was a

> lab

>

> > error and the REAL answer is

>

> > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I DO?

>

> > HELP!!!

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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[Guest guest]

Seriously, don't doctors or Even specialists know a single thing?

I am pissed off thinking about those who recommend me stopping salt intake when

I need it. But do I need it? Are they right?

Aldosterone normal.

Do I need extra salt then?

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Den 18. aug. 2010 kl. 18.39 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Before I checked in to the Hosp. I would make it very clear not to change my

meds without going over it with me or my wife. If they stoped your HC you can go

into Adrenal Crisis don't tell them you have Adrenal Fatigue this is a bad name

for it. Tell them you suffer from Adrenal Insufficiency.

Yes if your sodium levels are low drinking water can make you more DEHYDRATED.

Read this link.

http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

===================================================

In adrenal fatigue, the craving for salt is a direct result of the lack of

adequate aldosterone. As mentioned above, aldosterone controls sodium, potassium

and fluid volumes in your body. When aldosterone secretions are normal,

potassium, sodium and fluid levels are also normal. When aldosterone is high,

sodium is kept high in the fluids circulating in your body.

However, as circulating aldosterone levels fall, sodium is removed from your

bloodstream as it passes through the kidneys and is excreted in the urine. When

sodium is excreted it takes water with it. Initially, there is some loss of

volume of your body fluids but it does not become severe unless the condition

worsens. Once your circulating sodium level drops to about 50% of its original

concentration in body fluids, even a small loss of sodium or sodium restriction

in your diet begins to have severe consequences. Tiny fluctuations in blood

sodium concentration have a significant effect o blood volume when sodium is

depleted to this level.

When the sodium supply of the blood is not replenished by eating salt-containing

foods or liquids, sodium and water is pulled from your interstitial fluids into

the blood to keep your blood sodium levels and water volume from getting too

low. If too much salt or fluid is pulled from the interstitial fluids, the small

amount of sodium in the cells begins to migrate out of the cells into the

interstitial fluid.

The cell does not have a great reserve of sodium because it needs to maintain

its 15:1 ratio of potassium to sodium. As the sodium is pulled from the cell,

water follows the sodium out.

This leaves the cell dehydrated as well as sodium deficient. In addition, in

order to keep the sodium/potassium ratio inside the cell constant, potassium

then begins to migrate out in small quantities. However, each cell has minimum

requirements for the absolute amounts of sodium, potassium and water necessary

for its proper function. When these requirements are not met, cell function

suffers, even if the proper ratio is maintained.

If you are suffering from moderately severe adrenal fatigue, you must be careful

how you re-hydrate yourself. Drinking much water or liquid without adequate

sodium replacement will make you feel worse because it will dilute the amount of

sodium in your blood even further. Also, your cells need salt to absorb fluids

because sufficient sodium must be inside the cell before water can be pulled

back across the membrane into the cell.

When you are already low on body fluids and electrolytes, as you are in this

situation, you should always add salt to your water. Do not drink soft drinks or

electrolyte-rich sports drinks, like Gatorade, because they are high in

potassium and low in sodium, the opposite of what someone with low cortisol

levels who is dehydrated needs. Commercial electrolyte replacement drinks are

designed for people who produce an excess of cortisol when exercising, not

people who are low on cortisol and aldosterone. Instead, yo are much better off

having a glass of water with ¼ - 1 teaspoon salt in it, or eating something

salty with water to help replenish both sodium and fluid volume.

In a nation of people suffering from adrenal fatigue, the fast food restaurants

come to the rescue. Such restaurants use an excessive amount of salt in their

foods; a custom left-over from the old road houses where lots of salt was used

in the food to stimulate appetites and whet the thirst (for alcohol, the biggest

profit item). Although not a good solution, it supplies “emergency†rations

daily to people living in marginal health. It averts the crisis and replenishes

their supplies for another few hours.

When your aldosterone levels are low and you are dehydrated and sodium

deficient, you may also crave potassium because your body is sending you the

message that your cells are low on potassium as well as sodium and water.

However, after consuming only a small amount of potassium containing foods or

beverages (fruit, fruit juice, sodas and commercial electrolyte replacement

drinks), you will probably feel worse because the potassium/sodium ration will

be further disrupted.

What you really need in this situation is a combination of all three, water,

salt and potassium in the right proportions. One of the easiest ways to

accomplish this is to drink small repeated doses of water accompanied by a

little food sprinkled with kelp powder. Kelp powder contains both potassium and

sodium in an easily assimilated form. Depending upon taste and symptoms, extra

salt can be added. Sea salt is a better choice than regular refined table salt,

because it contains trace amounts of other minerals in addition to the sodium.

Another choice is to drink a vegetable juice blend containing some celery and

chard and diluted with purified water.

Usually, within 24-48 hours, your hydration and electrolyte balance will have

stabilized enough that you can proceed to an adrenal-supporting diet. You must

continue to be careful to drink salted water or vegetable juices 2-4 times

during the day, varying the amount of salt according to your taste, and you

should avoid potassium-containing foods in the morning when your cortisol and

aldosterone levels are low. Never eat or drink electrolyte-depleting or diuretic

foods and beverages such as alcohol and coffee, especially if you have been out

in the sun or are otherwise dehydrated. One of the problems people with adrenal

fatigue constantly deal with is a mild dehydration and sodium depletion.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

>

> > Subject: Even thicker blood! Help!

>

> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

>

> > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

>

> > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it was a

> lab

>

> > error and the REAL answer is

>

> > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I DO?

>

> > HELP!!!

>

> >

>

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> >

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[Guest guest]

People that are into healthy living put Sea Salt in there water every morning

1/4 tsp once a day. I can't see for the life of me how this could hurt

anything. I have no idea what they are thinking.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > > Subject: Even thicker blood!

> Help!

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> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

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> > > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

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> > > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it

> was a

> > lab

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> > > error and the REAL answer is

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> > > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I

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> > > HELP!!!

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[Guest guest]

So 1/4 tea spoon sea salt is like a treshold?

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Den 18. aug. 2010 kl. 21.26 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

People that are into healthy living put Sea Salt in there water every morning

1/4 tsp once a day. I can't see for the life of me how this could hurt anything.

I have no idea what they are thinking.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > > Subject: Even thicker blood!

> Help!

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> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

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> > > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

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> > > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it

> was a

> > lab

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> > > error and the REAL answer is

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> > > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I

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[Guest guest]

I think I gave you this link Salt your way to Heath. Dr.'s feel table salt is

no good for us and they are right but to tell people to not use salt they are

making people sick.

Read this link.

http://www.eaec.org/bookstore/books/sywth-excerpt.htm

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

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> > > Subject: Even thicker blood!

> Help!

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> > >

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> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

> >

> > > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

> >

> > > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10, BUT it

> was a

> > lab

> >

> > > error and the REAL answer is

> >

> > > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT DO I

> DO?

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> > > HELP!!!

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[Guest guest]

This is what the health stores tell people to do.

Co-Moderator

Phil

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> > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...>

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> > > > Subject: Even thicker blood!

> > Help!

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> > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:00 AM

> > >

> > > > The analyze I did on 15th of August,

> > >

> > > > 3 days ago, showed a Hematocrit of 56.10,

> BUT it

> > was a

> > > lab

> > >

> > > > error and the REAL answer is

> > >

> > > > 60.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hemoglobin 18.3! WHAT

> DO I

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> > > > HELP!!!

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