Vitamin D needs to be balanced with vitamin A

[Guest guest]

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to revisit what we may be

depleting and how it could be affect our hormone status.

Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on high dosages of

vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease in retinal serum. Now we are

starting to check this with all patients with low testosterone as it may be a

hidden factor that has been over looked,

[Guest guest]

Well I guess I am OK I do 12,000 IU's of Vit. D / day and eat eggs everyday plus

I get 9,000 IU's of Vit. A from my multi Vit.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Vitamin D needs to be balanced with vitamin A

>

> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to

> revisit what we may be depleting and how it could be affect

> our hormone status.

>

> Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on

> high dosages of vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease

> in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check this with all

> patients with low testosterone as it may be a hidden factor

> that has been over looked,

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I take 3000 iu D3 daily, and no Vitamin A. Will I be fine?

I still look for an answer to my B and Folate intake - Is it ok to hav a high B6

status and a high Folate status? I take 2 x B-Complex daily with a total of 110

mg B6 and 800 mcg Folate in them total. Can I then add a multi with 200 mcg

Folate extra?

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Vitamin D needs to be balanced with vitamin A

>

> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to

> revisit what we may be depleting and how it could be affect

> our hormone status.

>

> Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on

> high dosages of vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease

> in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check this with all

> patients with low testosterone as it may be a hidden factor

> that has been over looked,

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have been above the top of the range for a long time no problems with my

Dr.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

>

>

> > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

>

> > Subject: Vitamin D needs to be balanced

> with vitamin A

>

> >

>

> > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

> >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> >

>

> > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to

>

> > revisit what we may be depleting and how it could be

> affect

>

> > our hormone status.

>

> >

>

> > Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood,

> people on

>

> > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a signficant

> decrease

>

> > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check this

> with all

>

> > patients with low testosterone as it may be a hidden

> factor

>

> > that has been over looked,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ------------------------------------

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Top of the range of what, mister birthdaykid?

I was thinking of overdose B6 symptoms: http://www.acu-cell.com/bx2.html

.... Palpitations and such! Don't wanna go there! I am 50% above the top range of

B6. And somewhere up in the sky with Folate. My test just shows > with Folate.

Like I am above what's needed. They don't say what the top range is.

I am asking cause I wanna take a multi with B6 and Folate in it! Not for those,

but for other things such as Copper and Iodine.

>

>

>

> > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

>

> > Subject: Vitamin D needs to be balanced

> with vitamin A

>

> >

>

> > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

> >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> >

>

> > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to

>

> > revisit what we may be depleting and how it could be

> affect

>

> > our hormone status.

>

> >

>

> > Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood,

> people on

>

> > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a signficant

> decrease

>

> > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check this

> with all

>

> > patients with low testosterone as it may be a hidden

> factor

>

> > that has been over looked,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ------------------------------------

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

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> >

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> > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

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> >

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> > > Subject: Vitamin D needs to be

> balanced

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> > with vitamin A

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> > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

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http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

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> >

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> > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need

> to

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> >

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> > > revisit what we may be depleting and how it could

> be

>

> > affect

>

> >

>

> > > our hormone status.

>

> >

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> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Since adding checking retinol serum in the

> blood,

>

> > people on

>

> >

>

> > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a

> signficant

>

> > decrease

>

> >

>

> > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check

> this

>

> > with all

>

> >

>

> > > patients with low testosterone as it may be a

> hidden

>

> > factor

>

> >

>

> > > that has been over looked,

>

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[Guest guest]

My Folate is above 45 pg/mL but nobody knows how high cause the lab only tells

me it's: >45 pg/mL.

My B12 is 500, not optimal.

Do you have ranges for B6? i Think it's like 200-400 something. Mine is 700. Am

I taking too much B6?

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 4. feb. 2011 kl. 20.00 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: Vitamin D needs to be

> balanced

>

> > with vitamin A

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

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> > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

> >

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> > >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need

> to

>

> >

>

> > > revisit what we may be depleting and how it could

> be

>

> > affect

>

> >

>

> > > our hormone status.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Since adding checking retinol serum in the

> blood,

>

> > people on

>

> >

>

> > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a

> signficant

>

> > decrease

>

> >

>

> > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check

> this

>

> > with all

>

> >

>

> > > patients with low testosterone as it may be a

> hidden

>

> > factor

>

> >

>

> > > that has been over looked,

>

> >

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[Guest guest]

The guy good at this is Hardasnails ask him. I don't test all the B vit.'s but

I need them all to keep my Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4 umo/L.

levels down.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Subject: Vitamin D needs to

> be

> > balanced

> >

> > > with vitamin A

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also

> need

> > to

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > revisit what we may be depleting and how it

> could

> > be

> >

> > > affect

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > our hormone status.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Since adding checking retinol serum in the

> > blood,

> >

> > > people on

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a

> > signficant

> >

> > > decrease

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to

> check

> > this

> >

> > > with all

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > patients with low testosterone as it may be

> a

> > hidden

> >

> > > factor

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > that has been over looked,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

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> >

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> >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

My Folate is above 45 pg/mL but nobody knows how high cause the lab only tells

me it's: >45 pg/mL.

My B12 is 500, not optimal.

Do you have ranges for B6? i Think it's like 200-400 something. Mine is 700. Am

I taking too much B6?

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 4. feb. 2011 kl. 20.00 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: Vitamin D needs to be

> balanced

>

> > with vitamin A

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

>

> >

>

> > >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need

> to

>

> >

>

> > > revisit what we may be depleting and how it could

> be

>

> > affect

>

> >

>

> > > our hormone status.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Since adding checking retinol serum in the

> blood,

>

> > people on

>

> >

>

> > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a

> signficant

>

> > decrease

>

> >

>

> > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to check

> this

>

> > with all

>

> >

>

> > > patients with low testosterone as it may be a

> hidden

>

> > factor

>

> >

>

> > > that has been over looked,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ------------------------------------

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

I also have high homocysteine. Currently 12.5! Range here is 5 - 15. My old

hypo doc says it better be below 7!

Hard! Are you out there? What can you say about B's and being well above top

range with Folate and B6?

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 4. feb. 2011 kl. 20.09 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

The guy good at this is Hardasnails ask him. I don't test all the B vit.'s but I

need them all to keep my Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4 umo/L.

levels down.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Subject: Vitamin D needs to

> be

> > balanced

> >

> > > with vitamin A

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36 PM

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also

> need

> > to

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > revisit what we may be depleting and how it

> could

> > be

> >

> > > affect

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > our hormone status.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > Since adding checking retinol serum in the

> > blood,

> >

> > > people on

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing a

> > signficant

> >

> > > decrease

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting to

> check

> > this

> >

> > > with all

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > patients with low testosterone as it may be

> a

> > hidden

> >

> > > factor

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > that has been over looked,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I take the following to keep my homocysteine levels down.

• TMG 750mg 1pm and 11pm 2 pills a day.

• NAC N-Acetyl Cysteine, Selenium, Molybdenum - 600 mg.

• B-12 (Brain) Methylcobalamin - 5000 mcg lozenges. 3x’s/week.

• Coenzyme B Complex.

• P-5-P (Coenzyme B6) 50 mg.

• I am taking 800 mcg. Folacal for low Folate RBC.

• Krill Oil capliques 1,000 mgs. 2 with food morning mercola.com.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > Subject: Vitamin D needs

> to

> > be

> > > balanced

> > >

> > > > with vitamin A

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:36

> PM

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > Since we have been on vitamin D kick we

> also

> > need

> > > to

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > revisit what we may be depleting and

> how it

> > could

> > > be

> > >

> > > > affect

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > our hormone status.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > Since adding checking retinol serum in

> the

> > > blood,

> > >

> > > > people on

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > high dosages of vitamin D are showing

> a

> > > signficant

> > >

> > > > decrease

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > in retinal serum. Now we are starting

> to

> > check

> > > this

> > >

> > > > with all

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > patients with low testosterone as it

> may be

> > a

> > > hidden

> > >

> > > > factor

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > > that has been over looked,

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

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> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

HAN

Doesn't Vitamin K also have to be balanced / supplemented when supplementing

with Vitamin D? Are you also ckecking this?

Kind regards

Wayne

>

>

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to revisit what we may be

depleting and how it could be affect our hormone status.

>

> Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on high dosages of

vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease in retinal serum. Now we are

starting to check this with all patients with low testosterone as it may be a

hidden factor that has been over looked,

>

[Guest guest]

I believe already answered your question, . He said:

/message/67355

" You are not converting its a no brainer.

b-6 also rises in dysbiosis. "

A serum B6 test can include all B6 forms, including inactive pyridoxine

often put into supplements.

B6 toxicity may not be so much too much active B6 (P5P), but too much

INACTIVE pyridoxine that's not converting well and blocking the P5P you

already have in your body. This may explain why it's said overt B6

deficiency and pyridoxine supplement overdose have similar symptoms. Notice

the nerve symptoms are not said to occur with lots of P5P according to acu

cell.

Pyridoxine gives me shakes, shivers, tingles at just about 100-200 mg. I

also get acutely depressed, loose motivation and I'll get diarrhoea, which

are all low B6 symptoms. I can tell my dopamine falls as I get extremely

obsessed about things from the lack of being able to feel rewarded in my

brain for doing anything; I become apathetic.

P5P is completely different and I just get sleepy or dopey on too much and

maybe my magnesium level climbs, but I'm not too sure on that. I obviously

fail to convert pyridoxine and stay away from it other than a little in my

multi and I take separate P5P.

Your high folate level may be from the same thing. If they're just testing

folic acid, well, that's inactive and it does nothing till it converts. Some

say low B12 may cause HIGH folic acid levels due to conversion failing where

folate requires B12 to keep converting through its cycle.

-Nigel

On 4 February 2011 13:22, <gibcast@...> wrote:

>

>

> I also have high homocysteine. Currently 12.5! Range here is 5 - 15. My

> old hypo doc says it better be below 7!

>

> Hard! Are you out there? What can you say about B's and being well above

> top range with Folate and B6?

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for bringing this up. I get a boost in testosterone production from

vitamin A.

Make sure it's actual vitamin A and NOT beta carotene you're taking as beta

carotene is a very poor source of vitamin A. It's not really converted as

well as " they " would like you to think it is. It's too bad you experienced

problems relying too much on beta carotene as you said the other week,

.

I love plain cod liver oil from the bottle. TwinLab. : ) Works better for me

than a sweet potato.

-Nigel

On 3 February 2011 19:36, hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>wrote:

>

>

>

>

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to revisit what we may be

> depleting and how it could be affect our hormone status.

>

> Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on high dosages of

> vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease in retinal serum. Now we are

> starting to check this with all patients with low testosterone as it may be

> a hidden factor that has been over looked,

>

> __._,_.

>

[Guest guest]

I have Jarrow mk-7 lying here but havent decided wether I should tale it or not.

Will mk-7 make blood thicker? My Vitamin K status is in the lower 25% Of the

range.

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 5. feb. 2011 kl. 00.16 skrev " gcaussieman " <gcaussieman@...>:

HAN

Doesn't Vitamin K also have to be balanced / supplemented when supplementing

with Vitamin D? Are you also ckecking this?

Kind regards

Wayne

>

>

http://www.muscle-health-fitness.com/increase-testosterone-level-naturally.html

>

> Since we have been on vitamin D kick we also need to revisit what we may be

depleting and how it could be affect our hormone status.

>

> Since adding checking retinol serum in the blood, people on high dosages of

vitamin D are showing a signficant decrease in retinal serum. Now we are

starting to check this with all patients with low testosterone as it may be a

hidden factor that has been over looked,

>

[Guest guest]

Apparently excess vitamin K doesn't result in overcoagulation. Here's

something on that:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalm\

edicinejournal.com%2Fpdf%2FVitaminK.NMJNutraceuticalFINALwithtables.pdf

" A common misconception is that excessive vitamin K will result in

overcoagulation. However, the vitamin K-dependent proteins have a limited

number of Glu residues capable of y-carboxylation per molecule, beyond which

there can be no further y-carboxylation or excessive coagulation. "

If you want to read a lot of complied research on the ADEK vitamins, then

look here:

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=15 & t=15100

Contained there is also some research suggesting that the bad effects from

consuming vitamin A may be from a vitamin D deficiency.

I take Carlson MK4 (menatetrenone) and have done so for over a year and

really like it. It eliminated all the issues I used to have with calcium

that only got worse from vitamin D. No, my parathyroids were not hyper; I

was vitamin K deficient.

-Nigel

On 5 February 2011 06:37, <gibcast@...> wrote:

>

>

> I have Jarrow mk-7 lying here but havent decided wether I should tale it or

> not. Will mk-7 make blood thicker? My Vitamin K status is in the lower 25%

> Of the range.

>

>

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

>