Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I have to wonder if your E2 is not high, and adding test is only raising it. Did you have E2 tested before going on HRT? BR//Magg On 2/3/2011 6:32 AM, jscottsmithunc wrote: > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yes my estradiol was 30. Just confused on the symptoms on what is normal and expected. > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Where was the total T at? 30 is not that bad of a number for e2 > > > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > > > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Total T has been 400 and free was 8 (lower limit of normal was 7 on this scale). > > > > > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > > > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > > > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > > > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > > > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > > > > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > > > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 when was the blood drawn in relationship to the application of the gel? > > > > > > > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > > > > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > > > > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > > > > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > > > > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > > > > > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > > > > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Most men feel anxiety on anykind of TRT because adding Testosterone to your body it converts into Estraidol and as this get higher it makes us feel a lot of anxiety. Some kinds of TRT the process is faster I fined using gels the T goes into Estraidol faster. The bottom line here is to test this before going on TRT if it's high get it down before trying TRT. Some times doing this it unbinds your T and your levels will go back up. On this patch it can take you a good 2 weeks to level off and when you take the patch off get some HC cream and put it on the red rash. I feel you would be better off on shots. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jscottsmithunc <jscottsmithunc@...> > Subject: Day 2 Androderm > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:32 AM > Finally seem to be tolerating > something. Androderm started yesterday after trials > with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. > On day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel > so depressed and at the same time irritable. Never > really felt all of this. I guess I have put my > hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. > Did others go through these swings in mood and then settle > down to feel better??? If so how long?? Thanks > for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 4 days after I had stopped the gel > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. Androderm started yesterday > > > > > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. On > > > > > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel so depressed > > > > > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt all of this. I guess > > > > > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > > > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. Did others go > > > > > > through these swings in mood and then settle down to feel better??? If > > > > > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yes. I think shots would be better too...but trying to stay committed to the patch for 2-3 weeks if I can make it that long. Really hate screwing around with the med changes because I know that is a lot of the problem. > > > From: jscottsmithunc <jscottsmithunc@...> > > Subject: Day 2 Androderm > > > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:32 AM > > Finally seem to be tolerating > > something. Androderm started yesterday after trials > > with androgel which was horrible on provoking anxiety. > > On day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but just feel > > so depressed and at the same time irritable. Never > > really felt all of this. I guess I have put my > > hormones in a blender lately with the changes and I > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and downs. > > Did others go through these swings in mood and then settle > > down to feel better??? If so how long?? Thanks > > for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Some men are fine at 30 pg/ml but if your SHBG is lower in the range you need to keep your Estradil level lower my SHBG is 22 I need to keep my Estraidol at about 15 to 20 up into 30 I will have ED, no night time and morning wood, Hot Flash's and sweat and get feeling of Panic even Panic Attacks. Also as your Estrdiol goes up so will your SHBG and this binds up your Free T so you end up with very low levels. If you have some DIM or Indolplex/DIM take it it will help you feel better. In one needs to be on TRT they need to control there Estradiol levels so they don't go to high. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jscottsmithunc <jscottsmithunc@...> > Subject: Re: Day 2 Androderm > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:08 AM > Yes my estradiol was 30. Just > confused on the symptoms on what is normal and > expected. > > > > > > > > Finally seem to be tolerating something. > Androderm started yesterday > > > after trials with androgel which was horrible on > provoking anxiety. On > > > day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but > just feel so depressed > > > and at the same time irritable. Never really felt > all of this. I guess > > > I have put my hormones in a blender lately with > the changes and I > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and > downs. Did others go > > > through these swings in mood and then settle down > to feel better??? If > > > so how long?? Thanks for all the help over the > past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I was on the Patch for a long time I needed 2 / day my problem with it was when I took it off the glue would not come off and the area where the T went into the skin I would have a round red rash. To get this to heal in 7 days I needed to put some HC (Hydrocortisone Cream)on it so it would heal. You can't put the patch on the same area for 7 days. Co-Moderator Phil > From: jscottsmithunc <jscottsmithunc@...> > Subject: Re: Day 2 Androderm > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 11:12 AM > Yes. I think shots would be > better too...but trying to stay committed to the patch for > 2-3 weeks if I can make it that long. Really hate > screwing around with the med changes because I know that is > a lot of the problem. > > > > > > > From: jscottsmithunc <jscottsmithunc@...> > > > Subject: Day 2 Androderm > > > > > > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:32 AM > > > Finally seem to be tolerating > > > something. Androderm started yesterday after > trials > > > with androgel which was horrible on provoking > anxiety. > > > On day 2 the anxiety seems to be a bit less, but > just feel > > > so depressed and at the same time irritable. > Never > > > really felt all of this. I guess I have put my > > > hormones in a blender lately with the changes > and I > > > suppose I should expect some of these ups and > downs. > > > Did others go through these swings in mood and > then settle > > > down to feel better??? If so how long?? > Thanks > > > for all the help over the past 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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