new symptoms - can someone please take a look and comment? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hey Group,

Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped up about two months

ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol, 100 mg of pregnenalone,

licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone, testosterone and

aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my neck, I have to pee and I

feel very fatigued.

My hair is falling out and not just at the " male pattern baldness " areas,

but everywhere.

I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places that I should be (like

the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and black (and I have

blonde hair).

I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs and chest (at first I

thought it was just the testosterone but that only occurs on your back, not

arms and chest).

On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it seems that my body is

rejecting something that I'm taking.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike,

What do your labs look like I would stop 3 things the very high dose of T3 your

doing, Switch from Preg. pills to cream, stop the Prog. we are not sure one

should do both Preg. and Prog. at the same time this we are trying to figure

out. And the last try stopping the licorice root.

Are you sure you having acne and it's not hives.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> Subject: new symptoms - can someone please take a look and

comment? Thanks.

> NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

> Hey Group,

>

> Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped up

> about two months

> ago.  I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> testosterone and

> aromasin.  Here are my new symptoms:

>

> I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my neck, I

> have to pee and I

> feel very fatigued.

> My hair is falling out and not just at the " male pattern

> baldness " areas,

> but everywhere.

> I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places that I

> should be (like

> the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> black (and I have

> blonde hair).

> I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs and

> chest (at first I

> thought it was just the testosterone but that only occurs

> on your back, not

> arms and chest).

>

> On the up side, I feel better neurologically.  But it

> seems that my body is

> rejecting something that I'm taking.

>

> Any help is greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I am currently taking preg cream.

I'll stop the prog cream.

I tried to switch from T3 to NTH with bad results. I also was feeling like

crap on 80 mcg and upped it to 90 mcg and I feel much better. So, not sure I

can stop the high dose T3 at this point.

I suspect that it could be the medrol, since I started using that a couple

of months ago.

For some reason, the licorice root has made me feel better (should probably

be on florinef but Dr. M does not like that because it is a pro inflammotory

drug).

Thanks Phil,

MIke

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:49 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> Mike,

>

> What do your labs look like I would stop 3 things the very high dose of T3

> your doing, Switch from Preg. pills to cream, stop the Prog. we are not sure

> one should do both Preg. and Prog. at the same time this we are trying to

> figure out. And the last try stopping the licorice root.

>

> Are you sure you having acne and it's not hives.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

>

>

> > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> > Subject: new symptoms - can someone please take a look and

> comment? Thanks.

>

> > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

>

> > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

>

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped up

> > about two months

> > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> > testosterone and

> > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> >

> > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my neck, I

> > have to pee and I

> > feel very fatigued.

> > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male pattern

> > baldness " areas,

> > but everywhere.

> > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places that I

> > should be (like

> > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> > black (and I have

> > blonde hair).

> > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs and

> > chest (at first I

> > thought it was just the testosterone but that only occurs

> > on your back, not

> > arms and chest).

> >

> > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it

> > seems that my body is

> > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> >

> > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Did Dr. M put you on this stuff I would think he would try to get you off T3

only meds. You need to come off this slow. Maybe Barb has a good Idea how you

can do this.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> > > Subject: new symptoms - can

> someone please take a look and

> > comment? Thanks.

> >

> > > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> >

> > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

> >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just

> popped up

> > > about two months

> > > ago.  I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> medrol,

> > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> progesterone,

> > > testosterone and

> > > aromasin.  Here are my new symptoms:

> > >

> > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> neck, I

> > > have to pee and I

> > > feel very fatigued.

> > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> pattern

> > > baldness " areas,

> > > but everywhere.

> > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> places that I

> > > should be (like

> > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> thick and

> > > black (and I have

> > > blonde hair).

> > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and

> legs and

> > > chest (at first I

> > > thought it was just the testosterone but that

> only occurs

> > > on your back, not

> > > arms and chest).

> > >

> > > On the up side, I feel better

> neurologically.  But it

> > > seems that my body is

> > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > >

> > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I do not have experience with all the drugs Mike is on. I defer back to Dr. M's

judgment.

Barb

> > >

> > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> > > > Subject: new symptoms - can

> > someone please take a look and

> > > comment? Thanks.

> > >

> > > > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> > >

> > > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

> > >

> > > > Hey Group,

> > > >

> > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just

> > popped up

> > > > about two months

> > > > ago.  I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> > medrol,

> > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > progesterone,

> > > > testosterone and

> > > > aromasin.  Here are my new symptoms:

> > > >

> > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > neck, I

> > > > have to pee and I

> > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > pattern

> > > > baldness " areas,

> > > > but everywhere.

> > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> > places that I

> > > > should be (like

> > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> > thick and

> > > > black (and I have

> > > > blonde hair).

> > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and

> > legs and

> > > > chest (at first I

> > > > thought it was just the testosterone but that

> > only occurs

> > > > on your back, not

> > > > arms and chest).

> > > >

> > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > neurologically.  But it

> > > > seems that my body is

> > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > >

> > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, he put me on this stuff. One thing to keep in mind about Dr. M is that

he is constantly evolving his knowledge on metabolic disorders. As a result,

he now considers it okay to be on T3 only. Otherwise, he would have me on a

T4 medication as well. His only concern is that, similar to HC, it is

dangerous to miss dosing T3. So, I have to carry around a bracelet that says

I'm on T3 and HC.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> Did Dr. M put you on this stuff I would think he would try to get you off

> T3 only meds. You need to come off this slow. Maybe Barb has a good Idea how

> you can do this.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> > >

> > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> > > > Subject: new symptoms - can

> > someone please take a look and

> > > comment? Thanks.

> > >

> > > > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> > >

> > > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

> > >

> > > > Hey Group,

> > > >

> > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just

> > popped up

> > > > about two months

> > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> > medrol,

> > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > progesterone,

> > > > testosterone and

> > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > >

> > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > neck, I

> > > > have to pee and I

> > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > pattern

> > > > baldness " areas,

> > > > but everywhere.

> > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> > places that I

> > > > should be (like

> > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> > thick and

> > > > black (and I have

> > > > blonde hair).

> > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and

> > legs and

> > > > chest (at first I

> > > > thought it was just the testosterone but that

> > only occurs

> > > > on your back, not

> > > > arms and chest).

> > > >

> > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > neurologically. But it

> > > > seems that my body is

> > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > >

> > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yep you need to do what he tells you but I would ask him about stopping the

Prog.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > > >

> > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> > > > > Subject: new symptoms -

> can

> > > someone please take a look and

> > > > comment? Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> > > >

> > > > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37

> AM

> > > >

> > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms

> that just

> > > popped up

> > > > > about two months

> > > > > ago.  I'm currently on 90 mcg of

> T3, 6 mg of

> > > medrol,

> > > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > > progesterone,

> > > > > testosterone and

> > > > > aromasin.  Here are my new

> symptoms:

> > > > >

> > > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with

> sweat on my

> > > neck, I

> > > > > have to pee and I

> > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > My hair is falling out and not just at

> the " male

> > > pattern

> > > > > baldness " areas,

> > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere .

> Even in

> > > places that I

> > > > > should be (like

> > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is

> very

> > > thick and

> > > > > black (and I have

> > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > I have acne all over my back and on my

> arms and

> > > legs and

> > > > > chest (at first I

> > > > > thought it was just the testosterone

> but that

> > > only occurs

> > > > > on your back, not

> > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > >

> > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > > neurologically.  But it

> > > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

why too many varaiables and missing pieces.

> > > >

> > > > > From: Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@>

> > > > > Subject: new symptoms - can

> > > someone please take a look and

> > > > comment? Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > > NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

> > > >

> > > > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 7:37 AM

> > > >

> > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just

> > > popped up

> > > > > about two months

> > > > > ago.  I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> > > medrol,

> > > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > > progesterone,

> > > > > testosterone and

> > > > > aromasin.  Here are my new symptoms:

> > > > >

> > > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > > neck, I

> > > > > have to pee and I

> > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > > pattern

> > > > > baldness " areas,

> > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> > > places that I

> > > > > should be (like

> > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> > > thick and

> > > > > black (and I have

> > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and

> > > legs and

> > > > > chest (at first I

> > > > > thought it was just the testosterone but that

> > > only occurs

> > > > > on your back, not

> > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > >

> > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > > neurologically.  But it

> > > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

What have your recent sodium and potassium, with ranges, looked like on the

licorice?

-Nigel

On 17 March 2011 06:37, Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hey Group,

>

> Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped up about two months

> ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol, 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone, testosterone and

> aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

>

> I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my neck, I have to pee and I

> feel very fatigued.

> My hair is falling out and not just at the " male pattern baldness " areas,

> but everywhere.

> I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places that I should be (like

> the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and black (and I have

> blonde hair).

> I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs and chest (at first I

> thought it was just the testosterone but that only occurs on your back, not

> arms and chest).

>

> On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it seems that my body is

> rejecting something that I'm taking.

>

> Any help is greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Mike

>

[Guest guest]

Not sure but I am getting some blood tests next week. Will post those when I

get them.

Mike

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Nigel <nachonigel@...> wrote:

>

>

> What have your recent sodium and potassium, with ranges, looked like on the

> licorice?

>

> -Nigel

>

>

> On 17 March 2011 06:37, Rouse <michael.hugh.rouse@...>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped up about two

> months

> > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol, 100 mg of

> pregnenalone,

> > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone, testosterone and

> > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> >

> > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my neck, I have to pee and

> I

> > feel very fatigued.

> > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male pattern baldness " areas,

> > but everywhere.

> > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places that I should be (like

> > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and black (and I have

> > blonde hair).

> > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs and chest (at first

> I

> > thought it was just the testosterone but that only occurs on your back,

> not

> > arms and chest).

> >

> > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it seems that my body

> is

> > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> >

> > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nigel,

Going from memery and what says men don't do well on licorice. When I

tried it it made me dam sick.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >

> >

> > Hey Group,

> >

> > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped

> up about two months

> > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> testosterone and

> > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> >

> > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> neck, I have to pee and I

> > feel very fatigued.

> > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> pattern baldness " areas,

> > but everywhere.

> > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places

> that I should be (like

> > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> black (and I have

> > blonde hair).

> > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs

> and chest (at first I

> > thought it was just the testosterone but that only

> occurs on your back, not

> > arms and chest).

> >

> > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it

> seems that my body is

> > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> >

> > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > --

> > Mike

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Did Dr. M say to do Preg. and Prog. at the same day we are trying to figure out

how this would work for men that test low. If Dr. M told you to do both I might

try it.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just

> popped up about two

> > months

> > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> medrol, 100 mg of

> > pregnenalone,

> > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> testosterone and

> > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > >

> > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> neck, I have to pee and

> > I

> > > feel very fatigued.

> > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> pattern baldness " areas,

> > > but everywhere.

> > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> places that I should be (like

> > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> thick and black (and I have

> > > blonde hair).

> > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and

> legs and chest (at first

> > I

> > > thought it was just the testosterone but that

> only occurs on your back,

> > not

> > > arms and chest).

> > >

> > > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But

> it seems that my body

> > is

> > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > >

> > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I think you are right. I think the licorice is what is making me feel

horrible - gave me fatigue and bad brain fog.

Also, my pregnenalone and progesterone levels are very, very low. I also am

experiencing lots of hair growth on my body and so he thinks my DHT (and he

is going to test for this) may be very high. So, he wants to put me on both

for now.

Mike

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:47 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> Nigel,

>

> Going from memery and what says men don't do well on licorice. When I

> tried it it made me dam sick.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped

> > up about two months

> > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> > testosterone and

> > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > >

> > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > feel very fatigued.

> > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > but everywhere.

> > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places

> > that I should be (like

> > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> > black (and I have

> > > blonde hair).

> > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs

> > and chest (at first I

> > > thought it was just the testosterone but that only

> > occurs on your back, not

> > > arms and chest).

> > >

> > > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it

> > seems that my body is

> > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > >

> > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes I grew a lot of hair on my body from the High DHT levels I had from being on

Gels. I hate the dam hair and use clippers to cut it down about 3 x's / yr. On

my boys and chest it gets do dam long I can't see my boys and need to comb my

chest.

So Dr.M has you doing both Preg. and Prog. what do you take pills or creams I

have the Life-Flo creams but I feel the Prog. is to strong 20 mgs / pump.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hey Group,

> > > >

> > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that

> just popped

> > > up about two months

> > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> medrol,

> > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> progesterone,

> > > testosterone and

> > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > >

> > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat

> on my

> > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the

> " male

> > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > but everywhere.

> > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> places

> > > that I should be (like

> > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> thick and

> > > black (and I have

> > > > blonde hair).

> > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms

> and legs

> > > and chest (at first I

> > > > thought it was just the testosterone but

> that only

> > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > arms and chest).

> > > >

> > > > On the up side, I feel better

> neurologically. But it

> > > seems that my body is

> > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > >

> > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Haha, that is too funny. I went from being vitrually hairless to looking

like I have a man sweater on. I too, trim it down with clippers though.

Even odd places like the inside of my biceps get hair that I have to

shave...I now have a new found respect for women. I was also losing the

hair on my head but luckily Dr. 's magic hair loss formula has been

working for me.

He only lets me be on progesterone as long as I can take an AI. But i'm

sure if anything looks out of the normal he'll change things around.

Mike

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>wrote:

>

>

> Yes I grew a lot of hair on my body from the High DHT levels I had from

> being on Gels. I hate the dam hair and use clippers to cut it down about 3

> x's / yr. On my boys and chest it gets do dam long I can't see my boys and

> need to comb my chest.

>

> So Dr.M has you doing both Preg. and Prog. what do you take pills or creams

> I have the Life-Flo creams but I feel the Prog. is to strong 20 mgs / pump.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that

> > just popped

> > > > up about two months

> > > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of

> > medrol,

> > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > progesterone,

> > > > testosterone and

> > > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > > >

> > > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat

> > on my

> > > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the

> > " male

> > > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in

> > places

> > > > that I should be (like

> > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very

> > thick and

> > > > black (and I have

> > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms

> > and legs

> > > > and chest (at first I

> > > > > thought it was just the testosterone but

> > that only

> > > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > >

> > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > neurologically. But it

> > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I see my Dr. next Tue. and will post my labs if my Prog. and Preg. are low I

will add the Prog. to my Preg. doing Preg. in the morning and Prog. at bedtime.

The last time I did this it was Preg. first then Prog. and my last set of labs

my E2 went way down to about 8 and the Prog. drove up my Preg. levels over the

top of the range by 50 points. So my Dr. told me to stop the Prog. wait 8 weeks

do labs go back on Preg. and see how my labs look first before adding Prog.

again. I see no problems doing both if your low and in some men it lowers your

E2 levels.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I've got a list of new

> symptoms that

> > > just popped

> > > > > up about two months

> > > > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of

> T3, 6 mg of

> > > medrol,

> > > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea

> salt,

> > > progesterone,

> > > > > testosterone and

> > > > > > aromasin. Here are my new

> symptoms:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wake up every morning around 6

> with sweat

> > > on my

> > > > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > > My hair is falling out and not

> just at the

> > > " male

> > > > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere

> . Even in

> > > places

> > > > > that I should be (like

> > > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and

> it is very

> > > thick and

> > > > > black (and I have

> > > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > > I have acne all over my back and

> on my arms

> > > and legs

> > > > > and chest (at first I

> > > > > > thought it was just the

> testosterone but

> > > that only

> > > > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > > neurologically. But it

> > > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > > rejecting something that I'm

> taking.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Mike

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I recall there being some estrogenic component to licorice. Just throwing

that out there as something to be aware of.

-Nigel

On 18 March 2011 09:47, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> Nigel,

>

> Going from memery and what says men don't do well on licorice. When I

> tried it it made me dam sick.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

>

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey Group,

> > >

> > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped

> > up about two months

> > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> > testosterone and

> > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > >

> > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > feel very fatigued.

> > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > but everywhere.

> > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places

> > that I should be (like

> > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> > black (and I have

> > > blonde hair).

> > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs

> > and chest (at first I

> > > thought it was just the testosterone but that only

> > occurs on your back, not

> > > arms and chest).

> > >

> > > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it

> > seems that my body is

> > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > >

> > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > --

> > > Mike

>

[Guest guest]

THanks NIgel and Phil,

I skipped the licorice today and feel much better. So, looks like that was

the culprit.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Nigel <nachonigel@...> wrote:

>

>

> I recall there being some estrogenic component to licorice. Just throwing

> that out there as something to be aware of.

>

> -Nigel

>

> On 18 March 2011 09:47, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Nigel,

> >

> > Going from memery and what says men don't do well on licorice. When

> I

> > tried it it made me dam sick.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hey Group,

> > > >

> > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms that just popped

> > > up about two months

> > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6 mg of medrol,

> > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt, progesterone,

> > > testosterone and

> > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > >

> > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with sweat on my

> > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > My hair is falling out and not just at the " male

> > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > but everywhere.

> > > > I am growing body hair everywhere . Even in places

> > > that I should be (like

> > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is very thick and

> > > black (and I have

> > > > blonde hair).

> > > > I have acne all over my back and on my arms and legs

> > > and chest (at first I

> > > > thought it was just the testosterone but that only

> > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > arms and chest).

> > > >

> > > > On the up side, I feel better neurologically. But it

> > > seems that my body is

> > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > >

> > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Mike

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I had the same results stopping it in one day I felt better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms

> that just popped

> > > > up about two months

> > > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6

> mg of medrol,

> > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> progesterone,

> > > > testosterone and

> > > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > > >

> > > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with

> sweat on my

> > > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > My hair is falling out and not just at

> the " male

> > > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere .

> Even in places

> > > > that I should be (like

> > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is

> very thick and

> > > > black (and I have

> > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > I have acne all over my back and on my

> arms and legs

> > > > and chest (at first I

> > > > > thought it was just the testosterone

> but that only

> > > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > >

> > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> neurologically. But it

> > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Mike

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

phil, can u send me a private email, I would like to ask you a

question...jtmoy19607@...

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hey Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, I've got a list of new symptoms

> > that just popped

> > > > > up about two months

> > > > > > ago. I'm currently on 90 mcg of T3, 6

> > mg of medrol,

> > > > > 100 mg of pregnenalone,

> > > > > > licorice root, potassium, sea salt,

> > progesterone,

> > > > > testosterone and

> > > > > > aromasin. Here are my new symptoms:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wake up every morning around 6 with

> > sweat on my

> > > > > neck, I have to pee and I

> > > > > > feel very fatigued.

> > > > > > My hair is falling out and not just at

> > the " male

> > > > > pattern baldness " areas,

> > > > > > but everywhere.

> > > > > > I am growing body hair everywhere .

> > Even in places

> > > > > that I should be (like

> > > > > > the inside of my upper arms). and it is

> > very thick and

> > > > > black (and I have

> > > > > > blonde hair).

> > > > > > I have acne all over my back and on my

> > arms and legs

> > > > > and chest (at first I

> > > > > > thought it was just the testosterone

> > but that only

> > > > > occurs on your back, not

> > > > > > arms and chest).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the up side, I feel better

> > neurologically. But it

> > > > > seems that my body is

> > > > > > rejecting something that I'm taking.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Mike

> > > >

> > >

> > >