Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yes HCG can help it will make your testis work as good as they can and if they work enough yes they will get big again. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...> > Subject: adding HCG > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 1:45 PM > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 > years ago. I am 60, have 2 healthy children so > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel they > are smaller plus my > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the > roof, ejaculates are > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good place > but I would like to > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > any advice is appreciated. > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I have been told from a knowledgeable source (A DO who only does mens health) that hcg won't help if you start it after being on trt for a while.He was talking about a year or so.But I would give it a try.Don't see where it could hurt.If you don't notice a change in a couple of months it is probably too late.I have started cycling HCG 250 units, on a month, off two months.My testicles respond nicely.I cycle to avoid negative feedback.Of course I began hcg just shortly after starting trt.I have noticed an increase in total test labs so I reduce my test dose while I am on a hcg cycle.Got to the 1150 total and I prefer to keep it around 650-700 range.I do this by reducing test from 50mg twice weekly to 40mg during the hcg month.Takes about two weeks before testicles began to enlarge.I have nice large testicles at the end of the cycle.They are much smaller two months later.Prob could do it every other month but am careful not to over do it.Apparently the negative feedback is hard to overcome.I am not an expert and I can only report my own experiences. Phil. not the moderator. > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, have 2 healthy children so > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel they are smaller plus my > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the roof, ejaculates are > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good place but I would like to > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > any advice is appreciated. > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Phil that DO Dr. might be right but in my case I was on TRT 23 yrs before I added HCG. I started with 500IU's 3x's a week after the 15th shot we did labs and my Total T levels doubled went from 600 to 1200 but the lab I used at the time had a top of rage of 1593 for Total T. I was told I am Primary for 23 yrs that my Testis don't work. Adding HCG showed me and my new Dr. that I am not Primary but I am Secondary and my Testis do work. When I started the HCG my testis were the size of small grapes now they are back to there normal size. I never felt good just on TRT because I was Secondary and needed to treat my low Thyroid, Cortisol, Ferritin and so on. Dr.'s would look at my labs see me in the low end of the range and tell me I am fine I am in range. This is wrong if you have labs that show your in range but low for more then one hormone it means something is wrong. Co-Moderator Phil > From: phil <phildude43@...> > Subject: Re: adding HCG > > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 9:35 AM > I have been told from a knowledgeable > source (A DO who only does mens health) that hcg won't help > if you start it after being on trt for a while.He was > talking about a year or so.But I would give it a try.Don't > see where it could hurt.If you don't notice a change in a > couple of months it is probably too late.I have started > cycling HCG 250 units, on a month, off two months.My > testicles respond nicely.I cycle to avoid negative > feedback.Of course I began hcg just shortly after starting > trt.I have noticed an increase in total test labs so I > reduce my test dose while I am on a hcg cycle.Got to the > 1150 total and I prefer to keep it around 650-700 range.I do > this by reducing test from 50mg twice weekly to 40mg during > the hcg month.Takes about two weeks before testicles began > to enlarge.I have nice large testicles at the end of the > cycle.They are much smaller two months later.Prob > could do it every other month but am careful not to over do > it.Apparently the negative feedback is hard to overcome.I am > not an expert and I can only report my own > experiences. Phil. not the moderator. > > > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, > have 2 healthy children so > > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel > they are smaller plus my > > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the > roof, ejaculates are > > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good > place but I would like to > > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > > > any advice is appreciated. > > > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Phil the great thing about this board, and especially you, is that we can shares our real lifes experiences.Absolutely can't argue with your results.Thank you so much for sharing your vast experience.You have helped untold number of men recapture their masculinity.The doc. I am sure is sharing his book knowledge, but that is trumped by your actual use of hcg. Phil > > > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, > > have 2 healthy children so > > > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > > > > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel > > they are smaller plus my > > > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the > > roof, ejaculates are > > > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > > > > > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good > > place but I would like to > > > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > > > > > any advice is appreciated. > > > > > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Even Dr. and he is a DO Dr., feels men on TRT Primary or Secondary need HCG the TRT shuts down the LH message to the body from the brain and all them LH cells in the body don't get told to work HCG makes them work. Co-Moderator Phil > From: phil <phildude43@...> > Subject: Re: adding HCG > > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 11:52 AM > > Phil the great thing about this board, and especially you, > is that we can shares our real lifes experiences.Absolutely > can't argue with your results.Thank you so much for sharing > your vast experience.You have helped untold number of men > recapture their masculinity.The doc. I am sure is sharing > his book knowledge, but that is trumped by your actual use > of hcg. Phil > > > > > > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years > ago. I am 60, > > > have 2 healthy children so > > > > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > > > > > > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on > androgel > > > they are smaller plus my > > > > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is > through the > > > roof, ejaculates are > > > > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in > a good > > > place but I would like to > > > > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > > > > > > > any advice is appreciated. > > > > > > > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 HCG did fill out mine but I also have a problem with a high conversion to E2. Kills libido and increases my ED.  Arkansas From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...> Subject: adding HCG Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:45 PM  I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, have 2 healthy children so I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel they are smaller plus my scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the roof, ejaculates are great and only use Levitra now-an-then. Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good place but I would like to have the " big balls " I used to have!! any advice is appreciated. if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Me too but I found out adding some HC at bedtime fixed this problem for me. I am on 30 mgs of HC / day so I just took some of my dose at bedtime and this worked. A mod at Dr. 's forum told me about doing this. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...> > Subject: adding HCG > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:45 PM > > > > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, have > 2 healthy children so > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel they > are smaller plus my > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the > roof, ejaculates are > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good place > but I would like to > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > any advice is appreciated. > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 What is HC? > > > From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...> > Subject: adding HCG > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:45 PM > > >  > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, have > 2 healthy children so > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel they > are smaller plus my > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through the > roof, ejaculates are > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good place > but I would like to > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > any advice is appreciated. > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Hydrocortisone (HC – synthetic cortisol). Here is a good link about this problem sometimes called Adrenal Fatugue. http://livingnetwork.co.za/hormones/adrenal-fatigue/ Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > From: Big Biceps <biceps72@...> > > Subject: adding HCG > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 12:45 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > I was diagnosed as a " primary " 4 years ago. I am 60, > have > > 2 healthy children so > > I know I wasn't a primary my entire life. > > > > My testicles are small and after 4 years on androgel > they > > are smaller plus my > > scrotum has gotten smaller. My libido is through > the > > roof, ejaculates are > > great and only use Levitra now-an-then. > > > > Would HCG help at this late date?? I am in a good > place > > but I would like to > > have the " big balls " I used to have!! > > > > any advice is appreciated. > > > > if I took HCG -- 250 IUs twice a week?????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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