Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Ok attaching the files didn't work! Here are links to them: http://www.nightrangerweb.net/health/hormonelabs1.JPG http://www.nightrangerweb.net/health/hormonelabs2.JPG PS! So Hertoghe uses different measurements and obviously a different lab. The measurement types varies from lab to lab and country to country. I hope you will understand what this Norwegian lab is all about anyway. Â Here are my latest labs from the 21st of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes look out of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, and E2 is up. My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like my head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with it. It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low sodium, or high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 The att. did not work no labs. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Latest testo/estradiol etc. labs > > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 7:08 AM > Here are my latest labs from the 21st > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes look out > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, and > E2 is up. > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like my > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with it. > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low sodium, or > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I posted a reply with working links Phil! Sendt fra min iPhone Den 9. aug. 2010 kl. 16.05 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: The att. did not work no labs. Co-Moderator Phil > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > Subject: Latest testo/estradiol etc. labs > > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 7:08 AM > Here are my latest labs from the 21st > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes look out > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, and > E2 is up. > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like my > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with it. > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low sodium, or > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Not much more then your last tests Sodium looks low FT4 is low and Testosterone are low. What is your Dr. going to do to treat you. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest labs from the 21st > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes look out > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, and > E2 is up. > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like my > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with it. > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low sodium, or > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Sorry I seen it on the next post I read. Co-Moderator Phil > > > From: Gibcast <gibcast@...> > > Subject: Latest testo/estradiol etc. > labs > > > > Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 7:08 AM > > Here are my latest labs from the 21st > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes > look out > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, > and > > E2 is up. > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like > my > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with > it. > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > sodium, or > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I dunno, he is away til September. Today it is day 2 with maf headache. Just did hemoglobin at the ER - it came out high at 18.0. Range 13.4 - 17.0. Phil is this testosterone gel doing this to me? Sendt fra min iPhone Den 9. aug. 2010 kl. 20.09 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: Not much more then your last tests Sodium looks low FT4 is low and Testosterone are low. What is your Dr. going to do to treat you. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest labs from the 21st > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes look out > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, and > E2 is up. > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like my > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with it. > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low sodium, or > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Did you drink enough water before this test is not your levels will look to high. Just to be safe give blood to the Red Cross just don't tell them you on TRT. I can't say why your having this headache. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest labs > from the 21st > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes > look out > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, > and > > E2 is up. > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like > my > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with > it. > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > sodium, or > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I drank 2000 ml at least, for the first 12 hrs of the day, did the bloodtest. And boom. Could it be testosterone? I hest it can make blood thicker. I did drink less sea salt lately so maybe thats why. Sendt fra min iPhone Den 9. aug. 2010 kl. 21.41 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>: Did you drink enough water before this test is not your levels will look to high. Just to be safe give blood to the Red Cross just don't tell them you on TRT. I can't say why your having this headache. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest labs > from the 21st > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? Electrolytes > look out > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has fallen, > and > > E2 is up. > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, like > my > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 with > it. > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > sodium, or > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yes drink your Sea Salt in your water this is why you might have the Headache. I can't go one day with out Sea Salt every drinking a lot of water I get dehydrated Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest > labs > > from the 21st > > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? > Electrolytes > > look out > > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has > fallen, > > and > > > E2 is up. > > > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, > like > > my > > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 > with > > it. > > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > > sodium, or > > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of > whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Ok, I will drink more sea salted water than I've already done. I was on 1 tea spoon daily for almost 1 year, since June 2009 til around march 2010, when I went to Hertoghe for the first time and he told me to avoid salt and not take any salt at all cause he is salt-intolerant himself. (!) As a result, I tried to stop. But felt lousy so I started again with 1/2 tea spoon daily, sometimes less. But always salt, every day. Real, raw organic " grey " sea salt. I look at my serum electrolyte labs and see that I clearly need more salt. So I will now up my sea salt from 1/2 tea spoon daily to 1 tea spoon daily. But can we be sure this is NOT testosterone treastment making my blood thicker and raising my hemoglobine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â Here are my latest > labs > > from the 21st > > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? > Electrolytes > > look out > > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has > fallen, > > and > > > E2 is up. > > > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, > like > > my > > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 > with > > it. > > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > > sodium, or > > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of > whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Well I don't have a real headache today, after starting 1/2 tea spoon daily plus then some again. So maybe it's working. I still got a bad Hematocrit though. And hemoglobine. I did them again at the GP today and it looked like this: Hemoglobine: 17.80* (Ref: 13.4 - 17.0) Hematocrit: 56.40* (40.00 - 50.00) Phil, did you get a chance to take a look at my latest labs, those two links I posted, with the testosterone and E2 and all? God I feel godawful... Kudos to you, being thru all that stuff esp. with the heart op. and being here helping others!!! Respectfully yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â Â Here are my latest > labs > > from the 21st > > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? > Electrolytes > > look out > > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo has > fallen, > > and > > > E2 is up. > > > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE headache, > like > > my > > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is day 2 > with > > it. > > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it low > > sodium, or > > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out of > whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â > > > > > >Â Â Â Â > > >Â Â Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â Â Â Â Â > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 No I can't be sure just one thing you need to know about doing labs. If you run low on sodium your body might be dumping it due to your Adrenals ask about doing this testing. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12 & t=15453 If you read this link near the bottom it talks about how this problem happens. http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest > > > labs > > > > from the 21st > > > > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? > > > Electrolytes > > > > look out > > > > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo > has > > > fallen, > > > > and > > > > > E2 is up. > > > > > > > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE > headache, > > > like > > > > my > > > > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is > day 2 > > > with > > > > it. > > > > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it > low > > > > sodium, or > > > > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out > of > > > whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I would not worry about your blood being this thick some Dr.'s get upset seeing higher levels mine have been near the top even before TRT now today I am 66 still alive. I read Dr.'s up on TRT need to watch this but it's not high enough to be a problem from what I know. Just give blood when you can this helps. Yes I seen your other labs and posted a reply your sodium is still low and your T levels are low. I don't know much about the gel your on to tell if your on enough. Try to keep your Estradiol levels down see if they sell Indolplex/DIM where your at or buy it off the web. Also try taking some Zinc with Copper this helps a little to keep Estradiol levels down. I do 2 mgs of Copper at noon because taking Zinc lowers it. I take ZMA at bedtime for my Zinc. Co-Moderator Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are my latest > > > labs > > > > from the 21st > > > > > of July 2010.Any comments to anything? > > > Electrolytes > > > > look out > > > > > of balance, and FT3 is too low, plus testo > has > > > fallen, > > > > and > > > > > E2 is up. > > > > > > > > > > My latest and worst symptom is HORRIBLE > headache, > > > like > > > > my > > > > > head is infected/rottening inside. This is > day 2 > > > with > > > > it. > > > > > It's permanent. Can't make up my mind: Is it > low > > > > sodium, or > > > > > high sodium doing this, or... Hormones out > of > > > whack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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