Re: Hot Flashes? Elevated Estrogen?

[Guest guest]

You need to lower your TC more. DH started on 80 mg then lowered to 70, then

60, then 40, then 32, now on 20. I'm pretty sure his optimal dose is between

20-28; he'll get labs in a couple of weeks. But so far, he still gets wood on

day 5 at this low dose.

His worse symptom at 70 was the hot flashes and being red in the face all the

time. We didn't know that was a symptom of high E. Also, as your E rises, it

raises TBG (thyroid binding globulin), which binds up more of your free thyroid,

making you more hypo on the same dose. Your symptoms are saying your dose is

too high and you should lower it.

That is also a whopper of a Synthroid dose. Are you getting decent conversion

to T3 with just Synthroid?

JMHO,

Barb

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> I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've had to lower

my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and hg. I take

100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to raise my synthroid

from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid has become more

sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started feeling very

hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had anxiety as

well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no

reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure that

my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood test.

Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Wow 20-28 a week??? I guess were all different. I'm thinking of lowering dose

more but wanna be sure it's elevated estrogen. Is he on hcg as well?

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> > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've had to

lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and hg. I

take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to raise my

synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid has become

more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started feeling

very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had anxiety

as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no

reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure that

my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood test.

Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, that was my point, you're all different, and I would not expect many to be

functional at his low dose, but you all should know that not everyone needs

100/wk. But you certainly have room to lower some, and your symptoms are

screaming overdose. The hot and sweaty is from high E, low thyroid causes

depression, and low thyroid causes low cortisol which causes anxiety and nausea.

And no, he is not on HCG, and that is also known to raise E.

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> > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've had to

lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and hg. I

take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to raise my

synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid has become

more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started feeling

very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had anxiety

as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no

reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure that

my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood test.

Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Can you get high E 3 days after last shot? I though usually you would feel it

next day after shot?

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> > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've had to

lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and hg. I

take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to raise my

synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid has become

more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started feeling

very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had anxiety

as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no

reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure that

my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood test.

Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Actually T is supposed to peak in you about 3 days after your shot. It is when

T is excessive that it overflows into E. So that is when I'd expect it to be

highest!

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> > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've had

to lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and

hg. I take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to raise my

synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid has become

more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started feeling

very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had anxiety

as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no

reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure that

my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood test.

Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Interesting thank you. Maybe I should stop hcg and see how I feel?

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> > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've

had to lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct

and hg. I take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to

raise my synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid

has become more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started

feeling very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had

anxiety as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and

for no reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure

that my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood

test. Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Well you need to lower the TC or the HCG or both, but I'm not familiar with

dosing HCG to advise you. Maybe someone else will pipe up?

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> > > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and feel worse by the day. I've

had to lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct

and hg. I take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also had to

raise my synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting trt my thyroid

has become more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started

feeling very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was nauseous and had

anxiety as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and

for no reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty sure

that my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had e2 sensitive blood

test. Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

I feel it's your Estradiol levels you need to get this tested but most Dr.'s

will not test this your Dr. has you on TRT and your posting this problem. If he

was up on TRT he would be testing your Estradiol levels and keeping them down

using Arimidex.

Lowering your Test C levels is not a good idea you can crash and feel worse. If

you can't get your Dr. to test this get some Indolplex/DIM it is a supplement

sold OTC that will convert the bad E's into good E's so your liver can wash them

out.

Here is a link to a brand I know works there is a lot of junk DIM sold out

there.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

Buy this if your Dr. will not test this and take one tablet at dinner time. It

will take longer to get your levels down on this Arimidex works faster.

When you get some strong night time and morning wood your at your best levels.

You can drive your Estradiol levels to low when you do this your night time and

morning wood will stop cold and taking Viagra will not get it up.

When this happens just stop the DIM until your wood comes back that day go back

on it but cut the tablet in half.

If you have trouble doing this keep posting we can help you through this.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: andrenym007 <no_reply >

> Subject: Hot Flashes? Elevated Estrogen?

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> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 8:24 PM

> I've been on TRT for 6 months now and

> feel worse by the day. I've had to lower my cyp dose from

> 100 a week to 70 a week because of elevated hct and hg. I

> take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've also

> had to raise my synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because

> since starting trt my thyroid has become more sluggish.

> Anyway today I was at work and all of a sudden started

> feeling very hot and started sweating from head to toe and

> was nauseous and had anxiety as well. I get mood swings

> lately and feel depressed out of nowhere and for no reason.

> Does anybody have an opinion on what I should do? I'm pretty

> sure that my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent

> had e2 sensitive blood test. Thx in advance.

>

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[Guest guest]

ok I listed my weekly cyp dose from 70 to 50 and feel alot better! Only problem

now is rhat Ive broken out with some acne on my face, is this a side effect of

lowering dose or all the candy ive eaten since halloween?

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> > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and

> > feel worse by the day. I've had to

> > >lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because

> > of elevated hct and hg. I

> > >take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've

> > also had to raise my

> > >synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting

> > trt my thyroid has become

> > >more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a

> > sudden started feeling

> > >very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was

> > nauseous and had anxiety

> > >as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed

> > out of nowhere and for no

> > >reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should

> > do? I'm pretty sure that

> > >my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had

> > e2 sensitive blood test.

> > >Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

I meant to day lowered dose not listed. Damn acne

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> > > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and

> > > feel worse by the day. I've had to

> > > >lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because

> > > of elevated hct and hg. I

> > > >take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've

> > > also had to raise my

> > > >synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting

> > > trt my thyroid has become

> > > >more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a

> > > sudden started feeling

> > > >very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was

> > > nauseous and had anxiety

> > > >as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed

> > > out of nowhere and for no

> > > >reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should

> > > do? I'm pretty sure that

> > > >my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had

> > > e2 sensitive blood test.

> > > >Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

When I first received the Arimidex, I followed Phil's dosing with a quarter tab

every other day. After a couple of weeks, I noticed a decrease in " nighttime

wood " so I cut back to a quarter tab twice a week. That didn't seem to improve

the situation. Presently, I've stopped taking Arimidex altogether. So far, no

nipple soreness, hot flashes, or any other indications of an increase in

estrogen. Could it be that my body is so starved for testosterone that I am not

converting an appreciable amount to estrogen? I've actually felt hornier since

stopping the Arimidex.

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> > > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6 months now and

> > > feel worse by the day. I've had to

> > > >lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70 a week because

> > > of elevated hct and hg. I

> > > >take 100iu of hcg the day before I take my shot. I've

> > > also had to raise my

> > > >synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because since starting

> > > trt my thyroid has become

> > > >more sluggish. Anyway today I was at work and all of a

> > > sudden started feeling

> > > >very hot and started sweating from head to toe and was

> > > nauseous and had anxiety

> > > >as well. I get mood swings lately and feel depressed

> > > out of nowhere and for no

> > > >reason. Does anybody have an opinion on what I should

> > > do? I'm pretty sure that

> > > >my estrogen is also elevated even though I havent had

> > > e2 sensitive blood test.

> > > >Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

Phil what I meant to say is that ever since I lowered my cyp dose I feel better

but I broke out with acne on my face.

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> > > > > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6

> > months now and

> > > > > feel worse by the day. I've had to

> > > > > >lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70

> > a week because

> > > > > of elevated hct and hg. I

> > > > > >take 100iu of hcg the day before I take

> > my shot. I've

> > > > > also had to raise my

> > > > > >synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because

> > since starting

> > > > > trt my thyroid has become

> > > > > >more sluggish. Anyway today I was at

> > work and all of a

> > > > > sudden started feeling

> > > > > >very hot and started sweating from head

> > to toe and was

> > > > > nauseous and had anxiety

> > > > > >as well. I get mood swings lately and

> > feel depressed

> > > > > out of nowhere and for no

> > > > > >reason. Does anybody have an opinion on

> > what I should

> > > > > do? I'm pretty sure that

> > > > > >my estrogen is also elevated even though

> > I havent had

> > > > > e2 sensitive blood test.

> > > > > >Thx in advance.

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[Guest guest]

As you will note, I did stop the Arimidex altogether. Last week I added it back

to my regime. However, I am trying a 1/4 tab every three days. So far this seems

to be working fine. I've had some amazing wood for me lately. One time even in

the middle of the day when I was fully functional and alert which usually gets

in the way of success for me.

I haven't noticed guys here talking about this, but there are psychological

issues that play a huge role in getting successful erections. After a lifetime

of sexual dysfunction, I know I have a lot of mental roadblocks to overcome. Let

me just say that anytime I am able to get a totally hard erection, I am elated.

I am taking this in baby steps really. I'm hoping each success breads more

successful experiences. You might find this funny or pathetic, but for the first

time in a very long time, I am starting to feel like I have some control over my

sexual responses. When I say a very long time, I mean it has been decades.

Although I have no doubt that a large portion of my sexual issues has to do with

my psychological make-up and perhaps even childhood negative experiences.

However, having just in the last year or so discovering that there is also a

physical component to this has been liberating. I don't feel like I have to beat

myself up so much for being less of a man sexually than I would like to be.

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> > > > > > > > > I've been on TRT for 6

> > months now and

> > > > > feel worse by the day. I've had to

> > > > > >lower my cyp dose from 100 a week to 70

> > a week because

> > > > > of elevated hct and hg. I

> > > > > >take 100iu of hcg the day before I take

> > my shot. I've

> > > > > also had to raise my

> > > > > >synthroid from 250 to 275 daily because

> > since starting

> > > > > trt my thyroid has become

> > > > > >more sluggish. Anyway today I was at

> > work and all of a

> > > > > sudden started feeling

> > > > > >very hot and started sweating from head

> > to toe and was

> > > > > nauseous and had anxiety

> > > > > >as well. I get mood swings lately and

> > feel depressed

> > > > > out of nowhere and for no

> > > > > >reason. Does anybody have an opinion on

> > what I should

> > > > > do? I'm pretty sure that

> > > > > >my estrogen is also elevated even though

> > I havent had

> > > > > e2 sensitive blood test.

> > > > > >Thx in advance.

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