Re: Is my thinking on high Estrogen correct?

[Guest guest]

DH puts weight on in his belly and breasts when his estrogen goes high. His

thighs and hips don't change.

FYI, I am hypothyroid and when my dose was TOO low, 1/2 grain, I became very low

in cortisol and lost all body fat, even while eating constantly to fight

hypoglycemia. I got down to about 113 lbs. and looked gaunt. I am now on 2.5

grains of thyroid and 130 lbs., but still might be slightly undermedicated. 125

is my best weight.

Barb

>

> I have been reading a lot since joining here, and even more on my own.

> Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me. The negative stuff is

not from here BTW.

>

> While I have all the signs of possibly being high in estrogen by symptoms

alone, I am confused about one thing.

> I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I keep losing muscle

mass by the day it seems.

>

> What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You know the spare

tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have noticed my chest getting a bit less

'flat' and I am sure it is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

>

> If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely to build fat in

areas where females normally do?

> In other words the hips and upper thighs?

>

> Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus is on that subject.

If that idea is correct then I don't have to worry.

> My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming non-existent. That is sad as

I always was complimented by the females about my nice rear! LOL

>

> This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

>

[Guest guest]

To high or to low of thyroid can stress the adrenals. High or low cortisol have

the same symptoms and can mimic thyroid or estrogen related issues. So proper

evaluation of these hormones are essential because symptoms can easily over lap.

My self and many other second guess them making matters worse because it could

be completely different they what we think setting people progress many months

back wards.

> >

> > I have been reading a lot since joining here, and even more on my own.

> > Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me. The negative stuff

is not from here BTW.

> >

> > While I have all the signs of possibly being high in estrogen by symptoms

alone, I am confused about one thing.

> > I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I keep losing

muscle mass by the day it seems.

> >

> > What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You know the spare

tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have noticed my chest getting a bit less

'flat' and I am sure it is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

> >

> > If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely to build fat in

areas where females normally do?

> > In other words the hips and upper thighs?

> >

> > Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus is on that

subject. If that idea is correct then I don't have to worry.

> > My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming non-existent. That is sad

as I always was complimented by the females about my nice rear! LOL

> >

> > This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do not try to second guess the body because it can through a big curve ball

since symptoms over lap. You need a train HRT dr specialising in this such as

Dr Overbeck whose located in the northeast or Dr J located in the mid west.

>

> I have been reading a lot since joining here, and even more on my own.

> Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me. The negative stuff is

not from here BTW.

>

> While I have all the signs of possibly being high in estrogen by symptoms

alone, I am confused about one thing.

> I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I keep losing muscle

mass by the day it seems.

>

> What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You know the spare

tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have noticed my chest getting a bit less

'flat' and I am sure it is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

>

> If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely to build fat in

areas where females normally do?

> In other words the hips and upper thighs?

>

> Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus is on that subject.

If that idea is correct then I don't have to worry.

> My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming non-existent. That is sad as

I always was complimented by the females about my nice rear! LOL

>

> This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

>

[Guest guest]

I had all the low T, high estrogen symtptoms which has since been confirmed with

tests.  Like you I lost muscle mass and never had any abdominal fat.  So...

just 'cuz you don't have the fat doesn't mean you don't have low T or high E.

Bill

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From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 4:10:21 PM

Subject: Is my thinking on high Estrogen correct?

 

I have been reading a lot since joining here, and even more on my own.

Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me. The negative stuff is

not from here BTW.

While I have all the signs of possibly being high in estrogen by symptoms alone,

I am confused about one thing.

I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I keep losing muscle

mass by the day it seems.

What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You know the spare

tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have noticed my chest getting a bit less

'flat' and I am sure it is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely to build fat in areas

where females normally do?

In other words the hips and upper thighs?

Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus is on that subject.

If that idea is correct then I don't have to worry.

My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming non-existent. That is sad as I

always was complimented by the females about my nice rear! LOL

This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

[Guest guest]

Most men can't make good gains in the gym with high levels of Estradiol. My

workouts are flat when my levels are high I can't even pump up my muscles.

Hardasnails if a Pro and has the same problems.

Please get this tested why play around find out.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Is my thinking on high Estrogen correct?

>

> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:10 PM

> I have been reading a lot since

> joining here, and even more on my own.

> Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me.

> The negative stuff is not from here BTW.

>

> While I have all the signs of possibly being high in

> estrogen by symptoms alone, I am confused about one thing.

> I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I

> keep losing muscle mass by the day it seems.

>

> What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You

> know the spare tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have

> noticed my chest getting a bit less 'flat' and I am sure it

> is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

>

> If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely

> to build fat in areas where females normally do?

> In other words the hips and upper thighs?

>

> Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus

> is on that subject. If that idea is correct then I don't

> have to worry.

> My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming

> non-existent. That is sad as I always was complimented by

> the females about my nice rear! LOL

>

> This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

These seem to be signs more of a congested liver not processing toxins properly.

I have been through the same stuff belly gets bloated arms and legs shrink. It

was not untill I got my hormones, thyroid and adrenals in check that all of this

got significantly better. It was also important that I also detox my body

focusing on the colon, liver and lymphatic system. As we know if your liver is

not processing properly estrogens can get recirculated over and over again and

not get excreted efficiently. FActor in hidden mutation estrogens from food and

pollution you have a cancer breeding ground among other things.

>

> > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> > Subject: Is my thinking on high Estrogen correct?

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 4:10 PM

> > I have been reading a lot since

> > joining here, and even more on my own.

> > Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me.

> > The negative stuff is not from here BTW.

> >

> > While I have all the signs of possibly being high in

> > estrogen by symptoms alone, I am confused about one thing.

> > I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I

> > keep losing muscle mass by the day it seems.

> >

> > What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You

> > know the spare tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have

> > noticed my chest getting a bit less 'flat' and I am sure it

> > is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

> >

> > If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely

> > to build fat in areas where females normally do?

> > In other words the hips and upper thighs?

> >

> > Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus

> > is on that subject. If that idea is correct then I don't

> > have to worry.

> > My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming

> > non-existent. That is sad as I always was complimented by

> > the females about my nice rear! LOL

> >

> > This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You hit the nail on the head. Test treat test adjust.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Bill Totten <bill_totten@...>

> Subject: Re: Is my thinking on high Estrogen correct?

>

> Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:05 PM

> I had all the low T, high estrogen

> symtptoms which has since been confirmed with tests.  Like

> you I lost muscle mass and never had any abdominal fat. 

> So... just 'cuz you don't have the fat doesn't mean you

> don't have low T or high E.

>

> Bill

>

>

>

>

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> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

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> Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 4:10:21 PM

> Subject: Is my thinking on high Estrogen

> correct?

>

>  

> I have been reading a lot since joining here, and even more

> on my own.

> Some makes sense,......some sounds like snake-oil to me.

> The negative stuff is not from here BTW.

>

> While I have all the signs of possibly being high in

> estrogen by symptoms alone, I am confused about one thing.

> I have very little spare body fat, actually my problem is I

> keep losing muscle mass by the day it seems.

>

> What I do have might be 5 pounds around the middle. You

> know the spare tire/love-handle area. Now granted I have

> noticed my chest getting a bit less 'flat' and I am sure it

> is related somehow, but my hypothetical is this:

>

> If a man is high in estrogen, would he not be more likely

> to build fat in areas where females normally do?

> In other words the hips and upper thighs?

>

> Just a thought I had, and was wondering what the consensus

> is on that subject. If that idea is correct then I don't

> have to worry.

> My legs are getting thin, and my rear is becoming

> non-existent. That is sad as I always was complimented by

> the females about my nice rear! LOL

>

> This is serious, and not a joke BTW.

>

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