depression

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sue,

I don't know what I'm going to do.......I'm so depressed...........I guess I

have visions of being in the Hospital again, due to my mental

state..........I ended up there before - that was before they knew it was

Lyme Disease.

It is so hard to intellectually look beyond the depressed feelings........I

keep telling myself, this too shall pass...........only it doesn't. When

those suicidal feelings start to creep into my mind, I immediately take the

dogs for a walk.........it gives me enough of a boost to stay functional. I

wouldn't take my life, I've been through this before and know that things

will get better.

I just wish it would happen sooner than later.........I'm finding it

difficult to stay off the couch........I do need help..........I'm not sure

what that help is, I don't want more drugs.......I don't want to go

backwards......I just have to keep believing that this will pass.......which

is getting more difficult with each passing day............What is even more

difficult is I have to go to work tomorrow.........and

function.......perhaps that is a good thing..........it forces me to keep

going.

I know surrounding myself with positive people is important, but I have

trouble even being around people period.........I'm a teacher, and have to

force myself to make it through the day...(lots of people).....It is so hard

to make it through a day of school without tears.......little things set off

the crying.

Doing and communicating are such an effort.....

Its much easier to be on the couch. Thanks for caring Sue, and posting

some suggestions.

I'll give the St. 's Wort another week, and see if things begin to

lift..............I hope so.

Connie

[Guest guest]

Dear Connie,

Even though I am not classified as a lymie ( I live with two of them:( ), I

am depressed, and can't get past the fact that this is not me. Luckily, I

have never been suicidal (yet). That must be very hard on you. But thanks

to you, I am out the door for a walk, just so I can survive the rest of the

day. Sue posted a great message earlier about taking care of ME (the

relationship thread).

Don't give up, OK? You guys(gals) are a great group!!!

MD

> Thanks Sue,

> I don't know what I'm going to do.......I'm so depressed...........I guess

I

> have visions of being in the Hospital again, due to my mental

> state..........I ended up there before - that was before they knew it

was

> Lyme Disease.

> It is so hard to intellectually look beyond the depressed

feelings........I

> keep telling myself, this too shall pass...........only it doesn't. When

> those suicidal feelings start to creep into my mind, I immediately take

the

> dogs for a walk.........it gives me enough of a boost to stay functional.

I

> wouldn't take my life, I've been through this before and know that things

> will get better.

> I just wish it would happen sooner than later.........I'm finding it

> difficult to stay off the couch........I do need help..........I'm not

sure

> what that help is, I don't want more drugs.......I don't want to go

> backwards......I just have to keep believing that this will

pass.......which

> is getting more difficult with each passing day............What is even

more

> difficult is I have to go to work tomorrow.........and

> function.......perhaps that is a good thing..........it forces me to keep

> going.

>

> I know surrounding myself with positive people is important, but I have

> trouble even being around people period.........I'm a teacher, and have to

> force myself to make it through the day...(lots of people).....It is so

hard

> to make it through a day of school without tears.......little things set

off

> the crying.

> Doing and communicating are such an effort.....

> Its much easier to be on the couch. Thanks for caring Sue, and posting

> some suggestions.

> I'll give the St. 's Wort another week, and see if things begin to

> lift..............I hope so.

> Connie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Connie,

Have you tried journaling? Sometimes that helps to get the feelings out and

on paper. Also continuing to write here. Get the support that people here

can give. You have given so much to others, now it's your turn to receive.

It is scary to think of the possibility of the hosp. but it just may be the

help you need, or seeking help in a therapist. There is nothing weak about

having to do either.

Please know that you are in my thoughts.

A big hug

((((((((((((((Connie)))))))))))))

The human spirit is stronger than anything that can

happen to it.

C.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Thanks for talking with me...........I'm not in a good state...........but I

do know it.........there is a difference between being in a depression and

not being aware of it........and being in a depression, but knowing you are

there.

I do know I am in a depression..........I am seeing a

psycho-therapist.............and she too, sees I am severely

depressed........she wants me to go back on Prozac.........I just see that

as one more Dr. and one more drive............all of my Drs.........are in

other counties...........not too many good ones up here in Sussex

County........the thing that bothers me the most, is being dependent on yet

another drug........

I am single........and pretty independent.........It has been difficult at

times during the past five years, with no one to lean on...........its funny

how friends disappear when you become even too ill for them.

I have been off abx for a little over (what would be - 2 cycles of the

spirochete............physically, I seem to be in remission from my

symptoms, no teeth pain, no numbness, no tingling, no real brain fog, no

joint pain, no extreme fatigue............nothing.

I do however suffer what you mentioned..... ....insomnia...........actually

more sleep disturbance than anything...........I wake up all night

long...........a good night is waking about 3-4 times.....but most times its

closer to 6-7 times..........it really drags me down..........but this is so

much better than what it has been for the last five years.........I would

usually wake every half hour...........until I finally got up.........which

by 5:30 am, I usually had had enough. But now, I'm able to function pretty

well waking 3-4 times a night.

I have tried everything to sleep through the night.......in fact its the

only medications I am still taking........I actually alternate between

them...........I have a medicine cabinet filled with sleeping and sedating

type antidepressants.............lately I have been trying

trazodone...........but they all work for about two weeks and then that's

it............I have tried everything.

milk and cookies, turkey, melatonin, kava-kava,valerian root, every over the

counter remedy, ambien, sonata, respirdal, etc.....even tried a shot of

whiskey once..........

I tried taking a walk before bed, a hot bath before bed...relaxing music,

aroma candles, aroma sleep oils acupuncture, massage, herbs, vitamins,

minerals, Vitamin C drips, Hydrogen Peroxide Drips............a relaxation

tape that walks me through all the muscles of my body........NOTHING WORKS

for very long........and hot baths and exercise before bed time usually

gives me the worst sleep.

I have signed up for a pottery class on Monday nights, it starts again in

two weeks.........I find it to be good therapy.......

I don't understand why this depression won't lift........

I feel so helpless..........much like this whole damn lyme disease makes all

of us feel.........

I'm beginning to think, I'm not in a remission at all.......that the

spirochetes have decided to take a brake from my physical body.......and

instead are working on me mentally...........just when I thought I had this

disease beat..........

I see my LLMD on the 11th of January............she'll probably prescribe a

new sedating antidepressant......I don't think she can come up with one I

haven't been on...........

Thanks for helping me...........I will continue to force myself to

participate in life.........even though I don't want to..

Connie nwnj

Leave no stone unturned.......

[Guest guest]

Thank-you ...........

Maybe having a week off from school at this particular time wasn't a good

thing...........work forces me to participate in life..........This just has

to lift..........thanks for the hug..........I felt it.........Connie

Leave no stone unturned.......

[Guest guest]

Connie,

Depression can be a chemical imbalance, and by taking the appropriate

antidepressant, you can bring it back into balance and feel a whole lot

better.

The human spirit is stronger than anything that can

happen to it.

C.

[Guest guest]

Maybe your physical symptoms are gone but the Bb is still in the brain.I

know this can be the case-just saw the doc on fri and that is what is

happening to my girls.I also did not want to go on anti depresants but but

they really do help.I still have " down " days but seem to manage-perhaps you

have not found the right meds for you yet.Dont give up until your happy.Much

Love Janet

>From: " ConnieK " <conniek@...>

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>Subject: [ ] depression

>Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:04:54 -0500

>

>Hi Everyone,

>I need some help...........I am so depressed. I can't pull myself out of

>it. I have been on many antidepressants during my most horrible lyme

>months

>or should I say years........and really don't want to go back on

>them.........I'm off abx.......and have been in a good Physical

>State.........(meaning - no symptoms).......but my Mental State is

>horrible........do you think this is Lyme related? Perhaps there is just a

>big chemical imbalance in my brain that can't correct itself? I am trying

>St 's Wort........trying something natural........How long before I

>should see improvement, about the time it takes antidepressants to work?

>Several Weeks? I know I should be happy, being in remission from those

>horrible physical symptoms of lyme.........but I'm not....this depression

>is

>quite bad....it started the middle of October, and is getting worse...any

>suggestions?

>I started taking 900 mg of St 's Wort a day........also B-12,

>1,000mcg.........

>Leave no stone unturned.......

>

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[Guest guest]

connie...how can we not be depressed by what lyme has robbed from most of

us.....while st johns wort is ok i would suggest therapy i now see not only a

physciatrist(?) byt a physcoligist also.....plus i was in therapy before to

try to save my marriage my wife and i both attended....unfortunatly it did

not work.....i take rx antidepresants.....somedays are better then

others.......oh well wishing all a good new year.

Reid

[Guest guest]

Dear Connie and Everyone,

My daughter and I have both found Effexor to be very effective for depression and anxiety. I take it in the morning and sleep great at night. Of course working full time (I have no choice) makes me very tired at night. Anyway, I had tried paxil and zoloft over the years. Also xanax, ativan and valium, though they only worked on an "as needed" basis and made me extremely tired. Effexor has helped sooo much! Just another suggestion. There are so many new antidepressants out there. Keep trying til you find the one that is right for you. I have to agree with Sue though. If you are still depressed, chances are that you are still carrying Lyme. Antibiotics get to the root of the depression. Talk to your doctor about continuing since you are not yet 100% better.

I am glad you are going to the pottery classes Connie. It will be wonderful for you, as Sue said. I am going to return to coaching cheerleading this year and I am also beginning a watercolor class in February. I am really looking forward to that . Yes.. we have to do the things we like. The way I look at it, we are going to feel lousy whether we are doing things we like or sitting around feeling sorry for ourselves. We may as well enjoy ourselves and do the things we really love. I have also found work to be a savior, though there are days I just wish I could stay in bed. I am always glad once I get there though and get my day started.

Happy New Year!

Angel Blessings to All,

Lorraine

[Guest guest]

Connie:

Hi ! Sorry I know how you feel going through much the same. A couple of

points thought...I take St. 's Wort very successfully BUT you have to be

VERY careful with the brands. I have taken some that did absolutely nothing,

and I slipped back into depression...this included the stuff from Walmart

and some stuff I got at my drugstore. DESPITE the fact both said had 3%

hypericin or whatever it is....As my doctor said, there isn't enough St

;s Wort growing in the world to match what they're selling.

Also, a couple years before I was dignosed with Lyme I was told I had major

depressive disease. Basically nothing worked until I went on an MAO

inhibitor- if nothing else is helping consider that. A couple of years ago a

doctor on this last posted an explanation of why these drugs worked better

for fibromyalgia patients (and lymies) but I don;'t think I still have

it...I was lucky, as soon as I went on IV antibiotics my depression

essentially went away. Yeah, I do have some mild depression which I take the

St 's Wort for, but nothing like what I I had. So, if you have not been

on IV that is something else you might want to consider.

Hope you are doing better!

Val

> Re: [ ] depression

>

>

> Thanks Sue,

> I don't know what I'm going to do.......I'm so

> depressed...........I guess I

> have visions of being in the Hospital again, due to my mental

> state..........I ended up there before - that was before they

> knew it was

> Lyme Disease.

> It is so hard to intellectually look beyond the depressed

> feelings........I

> keep telling myself, this too shall pass...........only it doesn't. When

> those suicidal feelings start to creep into my mind, I

> immediately take the

> dogs for a walk.........it gives me enough of a boost to stay

> functional. I

> wouldn't take my life, I've been through this before and know that things

> will get better.

> I just wish it would happen sooner than later.........I'm finding it

> difficult to stay off the couch........I do need

> help..........I'm not sure

> what that help is, I don't want more drugs.......I don't want to go

> backwards......I just have to keep believing that this will

> pass.......which

> is getting more difficult with each passing day............What

> is even more

> difficult is I have to go to work tomorrow.........and

> function.......perhaps that is a good thing..........it forces me to keep

> going.

>

> I know surrounding myself with positive people is important, but I have

> trouble even being around people period.........I'm a teacher, and have to

> force myself to make it through the day...(lots of people).....It

> is so hard

> to make it through a day of school without tears.......little

> things set off

> the crying.

> Doing and communicating are such an effort.....

> Its much easier to be on the couch. Thanks for caring Sue, and posting

> some suggestions.

> I'll give the St. 's Wort another week, and see if things begin to

> lift..............I hope so.

> Connie

>

>

> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your suggestions Val..........I've been on IV for most of the

year 2000.........If I could only beat the sleep thing.......maybe the

depression would lift some.

I see my Dr. tomorrow.........hopefully, she can come up with something I

haven't tried..........thanks, Connie

Leave no stone unturned.......

[Guest guest]

Dear Connie,

I am glad you are going to your LLMD tomorrow, let us know what she

says. Depression is one of my husband's major symptoms, I understand

at least from seeing him how debilitating it is, and I hear him also

say how frustrating it is when the thoughts come and he can't make

them go away. He also has anxiety and sometimes other psychological

symptoms. We've had bad luck with the antidepressants we've tried &

had stopped for awhile (St. 's Wort also did nothing for him,

despite researching a good brand, and he couldn't take SAMe, had an

allergic reaction to it). In fact, I still have a bottle with 27 of

the original 30 in it, if anyone wants our SAMe (which our LLMD

recommended) I'd be happy to mail them for free, I hate to just throw

them out but he can't use them. Email me if interested.

Dave's only been on IV for 8 weeks now, it's so discouraging that we

have so far to go (we're just starting, & he's been infected for 13-

15 years). It is hard for me to think there is hope many days, I

journal a lot as someone else suggested (Dave can't & he doesn't

remember things so I want it all written down for him. I have almost

250 pages written in the last 2 years, though we just learned he has

Lyme in October) and I talk with our pastor weekly who helps me so

much. Well, I'm just so sorry that you've done so much IV and still

having some problems, but it did encourage me somewhat to hear so

many share about depression & how it affects them, sometimes when

you're isolated (we don't have people near us with Lyme) you just

don't know what's normal.

We're still waiting for the response to our latest health insurance

appeal to get IV covered, but thankfully our disability insurance

changed their categorization of my husband's illness from mental to

physiolgical (so he gets the full benefits). He's been completely

unable to work since June 1. Gotta celebrate the victories along the

way, right?

Anyway, thanks everyone for sharing, it meant a lot to me tonight.

God bless, Merry :-)

[Guest guest]

Lorraine-

You are so wonderful!!!!!

If I lived closer, I would love to have your job too!!!! LOL

I really value your care and spirituality; you have been a foundation for me.

Thank you for your wonderful friendship.

See, lyme is not all negative. By having this control my family, I have

learned to fight back and make the most of it. I have made some wonderful

friends.

If handed lemons, make lemonade!!!!

sue in nj

[Guest guest]

Marta, thank you for your kind words, I have adult children and 3 grandkids,

so there is no way I would do anything to hurt them. its just that

sometimes the thought goes through my head when I am at the end of my rope.

I just don't have the energy to deal with all the bullshit. And I know most

of us feel this way. I want to be a productive part of society, I just cant.

I am afraid, really afraid of loosing my income from LTD and that would

force me to become homeless. Some days, I don't even think about this and

spend money like it grows on trees, then I realize, I can be cut off at any

time, I hate not being in control. I just needed to vent here and in my

other group because I cant or will not share these feeling with my kids.

They worry enough about me, they don't need to deal with my deep moods. I

know this will pass, just when I go though it, it feels like it will never

go away. But it does and I get my strength to fight the LTD and social

security. Thanks to all of you for listening. And for genuinely caring. I

started to take my paxil again in a very small dose. I think that I may be

suffering from withdrawal. I will see my Dr. next week and will discuss

this with him.

roe

[Guest guest]

<snip>

You don't want to die; you just don't want to live like this. So the

problem is you want to live!..without all the pain and crap that

comes with this illness. Tell yourself the truth. I WANT TO LIVE

AND I'M SICK OF LIVING LIKE THIS, and really let it rip. Don't stay

there, but let it out, and then make yourself go outside some; watch

good movies, listen to beautiful music, and realize that you have not

been forgotten, no matter how much it may feel like that.

<snip>

Thanks Regina, that was well said. I am sick of being sick!! I am sick of

my selfish friends and some of my family, who call with there petty bullshit

problems, but don't understand what I am going through. What its like to

have late stage lyme. What its like to not be able to read a good book or

learn new things. I really only want to talk to people with lyme at this

point! Except for my kids and grandkids of course.

Thanks again everyone, just for being out there is cyber space.

roe

[Guest guest]

Hi Roe,

I know how you feel not having control over your

situation. I'm a single mother of two beautiful

children. And I dread everyday that I have to go to

the market & use food stamps or rely on the state to

pay for my rent. It's really quite degrading

sometimes. I get no sympathy from my family, they

feel that my being ill shouldn't affect my ability to

provide for my children. I should just push through

they say. They don't understand the pain I feel in my

legs everyday, or the difficulty I had trying to

concentrate at work (former Paralegal). I have tried

in the past to 'push' myself...only leaving myself to

'hurt' worse. I have been at the end of my rope

several times, I've hit rock bottom & pitied myself

terribly. It's hard, it's so hard... But I have found

it's all in your attitude...If you see it, you can

achieve it. Currently, I'm trying to rebuild my life

once again. I want to be free of 'state assistance',

free of depending on others to support me & my

children. For me, getting fed up with the lack of

control I feel is my drive to better my situation.

I've been depressed...to the point of suicide. And

just at that crucial moment, found myself becoming so

angry with me for attempting to 'give in'. Now, I

wake in the morning thankful for the birds, the air I

breathe, my children fighting first thing in the a.m.

It's hard for all of us...too damn hard sometimes.

Others don't understand what we go through on a daily

basis & that's something we need to deal with & get

over. We (our group), we have each other. We know

what the other's going through...this has become my

'comfort zone' from the outside world. I'm rambling

sorry...I just wanted you to know that you're not

alone here. I think we all feel some lack of control

in our situations. But hang in there. You have all of

us...

Kris

--- nne <roe325@...> wrote:

> Marta, thank you for your kind words, I have adult

> children and 3 grandkids,

> so there is no way I would do anything to hurt them.

> its just that

> sometimes the thought goes through my head when I am

> at the end of my rope.

> I just don't have the energy to deal with all the

> bullshit. And I know most

> of us feel this way. I want to be a productive part

> of society, I just cant.

> I am afraid, really afraid of loosing my income from

> LTD and that would

> force me to become homeless. Some days, I don't

> even think about this and

> spend money like it grows on trees, then I realize,

> I can be cut off at any

> time, I hate not being in control. I just needed to

> vent here and in my

> other group because I cant or will not share these

> feeling with my kids.

> They worry enough about me, they don't need to deal

> with my deep moods. I

> know this will pass, just when I go though it, it

> feels like it will never

> go away. But it does and I get my strength to fight

> the LTD and social

> security. Thanks to all of you for listening. And

> for genuinely caring. I

> started to take my paxil again in a very small dose.

> I think that I may be

> suffering from withdrawal. I will see my Dr. next

> week and will discuss

> this with him.

>

> roe

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Kris, I know I am not alone, and that is why I share with you all. We all

feel like this every now and then. Has your health improved? I have been

sick for 3 years and have had short remissions, 2 to 4 weeks at a time.

that's it. But my neuro damage is really bad and I am not sure it can be

reversed. At this point my neuro is trying to control the seizures to

prevent further damage. I have no idea if it is working. I will have to

wait for my next EEG. My llmd knows I need IV, but will not fight for me.

my last test came back CDC negative. So he says he cant fight. It just all

becomes very frustrating.

As far as you, just taking care of 2 kids is more than enough for a person

with active lyme. please don't push yourself, you are sick, maybe you

should be on SSD. You would get more money along with the food stamps and

Medicaid. Don't worry what others think. You know why you are where you

are right now. But I must tell you, I don't know if I will ever be able to

work again. But I am sure this is not so for you.

roe

[Guest guest]

Kris,

Have you applied for SSDI? You and your children would be eligible for

checks from the government if approved, and you can be approved based on

your symptoms.

Marta

----- Original Message -----

From: " WillowMagick " <willowmagick@...>

> Hi Roe,

>

> I know how you feel not having control over your

> situation. I'm a single mother of two beautiful

> children. And I dread everyday that I have to go to

> the market & use food stamps or rely on the state to

> pay for my rent. It's really quite degrading

> sometimes. I get no sympathy from my family, they

> feel that my being ill shouldn't affect my ability to

> provide for my children.

[Guest guest]

Hi nne,

To say my health has improved...yes...to some degree

it has. I feel fine most of the time, although I

wouldn't say I'm in remission. I think it's more of

me learning to live with myself. I still have

constant muscle pain, not just in my legs, but also my

arms, my neck. Neurological problems, i.e, thought

process...totally screwed up, especially when I'm

excited or stressed. I've diagnosed myself with

C.R.S. (can't remember sh*t).

Mentally, I feel good most of the time. I try to keep

myself positive & my spirits high. It definitely

helps. I don't have an LLMD right now. I gave up on

the doctors, and the abx and just treat myself with

herbal remedies. I feel a lot better taking herbal

than I ever did on any abx. Natural feels better to

me.

My kids are the joys of my life. And it is hard being

mom & dad. But they are my reason for living &

pushing myself (too much sometimes) to make our life

better. I know at times I push myself far more than I

can handle, and I strive for too much. But I can't

just sit by & watch life. I need to live it. And to

me, if I 'give in' to this disease, I'm not living

anymore. Until I am a vegetable, unable to move or

speak, I will continue to push me beyond my limits.

I've got too...I have two beautiful children depending

on me. I know I may be foolish, but it's the only way

I know how to survive.

The only problem with me getting SSDI, is I don't have

a doctor to say " yes, she's disabled " . But again,

that is my stubbornness.

Thanks for sharing,

Kris

--- nne <roe325@...> wrote:

> Kris, I know I am not alone, and that is why I share

> with you all. We all

> feel like this every now and then. Has your health

> improved? I have been

> sick for 3 years and have had short remissions, 2 to

> 4 weeks at a time.

> that's it. But my neuro damage is really bad and I

> am not sure it can be

> reversed. At this point my neuro is trying to

> control the seizures to

> prevent further damage. I have no idea if it is

> working. I will have to

> wait for my next EEG. My llmd knows I need IV, but

> will not fight for me.

> my last test came back CDC negative. So he says he

> cant fight. It just all

> becomes very frustrating.

>

> As far as you, just taking care of 2 kids is more

> than enough for a person

> with active lyme. please don't push yourself, you

> are sick, maybe you

> should be on SSD. You would get more money along

> with the food stamps and

> Medicaid. Don't worry what others think. You know

> why you are where you

> are right now. But I must tell you, I don't know if

> I will ever be able to

> work again. But I am sure this is not so for you.

>

> roe

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

It can be, but then again there are a lot of side

effects. Are you seeing a gastroenterolist or

heptologist? (I'm noy sure if that is spelled right).

You need an expert. My doctor brushes off a lot of

sides but not the possibility of depression, although

he says he would just increase my Prozac. So far I'm

OK, but you need a dr. who is on YOUR side,

Sharon

--- Beth Kern <bbbkern@...> wrote:

> Someone mentioned depression earlier and it got me

> wondering. I had

> read in the literature that the treatment was not

> recommended for people

> with depression. I am under treatment for clinical

> depression and panic

> disorder (pretty much controlled by medication

> unless really stressed).

> When I brought this up to the doctors, they pretty

> much brushed it

> aside. These are the same doctors who knew for

> years that I had HepC

> and didn't tell me it was dangerous or suggest I

> seek treatment. Since

> joining this list, I know that you people know more

> than the doctors

> from a " been there done that " standpoint. Would the

> treatment be

> dangerous for me? Any advice?

>

> Thanks in advance,

> Beth

>

>

>

>

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Good morning Sharon

My HMO is having me see a gastronterolist for my Hep C. He listen's to me about all my side afftects, except for my problem in the bedroom, saying he had never heard of anyone else compain of that. But did refear mo to another Doctor. Who put me on Viagra.

Terry

Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: It can be, but then again there are a lot of sideeffects. Are you seeing a gastroenterolist orheptologist? (I'm noy sure if that is spelled right).You need an expert. My doctor brushes off a lot ofsides but not the possibility of depression, althoughhe says he would just increase my Prozac. So far I'mOK, but you need a dr. who is on YOUR side, Sharon--- Beth Kern <bbbkern@...> wrote:> Someone mentioned depression earlier and it got me> wondering. I had > read in the literature that the treatment was not> recommended for people > with depression. I am under treatment for clinical> depression and panic > disorder (pretty much controlled by medication> unless really stressed). > When I brought this up to the doctors, they pretty> much brushed it > aside. These are the same doctors who knew for> years that I had HepC > and didn't tell me it was dangerous or suggest I> seek treatment. Since > joining this list, I know that you people know more> than the doctors > from a "been there done that" standpoint. Would the> treatment be > dangerous for me? Any advice?> > Thanks in advance,> Beth> > > > __________________________________________________

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That's what I see. He's great. He had never heard of

a few of my sides but he'll try to help me with them.

It took a while to convince him the headaches were

from the peg, but he believes me now. I think people

react many different ways to these drugs, but that

only thing that would kill us is the depression

causing suicide, so they have to real careful.

Sharon

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

>

> Good morning Sharon

> My HMO is having me see a gastronterolist for

> my Hep C. He listen's to me about all my side

> afftects, except for my problem in the bedroom,

> saying he had never heard of anyone else compain of

> that. But did refear mo to another Doctor. Who put

> me on Viagra.

> Terry

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About two years ago we lost a friend who was on tx and severely depressed to suicide. It was so hard to cope with since without the treatment it probably never would have happended. Since I have a Bi-Polar Disorder with highs and lows I have some serious concerns about whether I should ever even attempt treatment. My best friend who has Bi-Polar was on tx for 3 months and her mental health symptoms got so bad they stopped the treatment. The surprising news to the docs was that she cleared the virus and is still registering undetectable at 6 months. They thought it would return with a vengence and got a fantastic surprise.

Just goes to show you that you never can tell how it's gonna work out. Guess I'll keep trudging.

Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: That's what I see. He's great. He had never heard ofa few of my sides but he'll try to help me with them.It took a while to convince him the headaches werefrom the peg, but he believes me now. I think peoplereact many different ways to these drugs, but thatonly thing that would kill us is the depressioncausing suicide, so they have to real careful. Sharon--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:> > Good morning Sharon> My HMO is having me see a gastronterolist for> my Hep C. He listen's to me about all my side> afftects, except for my problem in the bedroom,> saying he had never heard of anyone else compain of> that. But did refear mo to another Doctor. Who put> me on Viagra.> Terryaccess__________________________________________________

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Whether and how it would be affected by the treatments has some unknown factors to it. My brother who is in active Major Depression was advised by his doctors not to have treatment. My best friend who has Bi-Polar Depression was tried on the tx and she had to quit early because it became unbearable depression. Those are two cases that I know about.

I'll be curious to see what the recommendation will be for me as a fellow Bi-Polar person. I have been experiencing some low level depression as I have begun to learn more about the disease and it's far reach tenacle and affects. Regards,

Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: It can be, but then again there are a lot of sideeffects. Are you seeing a gastroenterolist orheptologist? (I'm noy sure if that is spelled right).You need an expert. My doctor brushes off a lot ofsides but not the possibility of depression, althoughhe says he would just increase my Prozac. So far I'mOK, but you need a dr. who is on YOUR side, Sharon--- Beth Kern <bbbkern@...> wrote:> Someone mentioned depression earlier and it got me> wondering. I had > read in the literature that the treatment was not> recommended for people > with depression. I am under treatment for clinical> depression and panic > disorder (pretty much controlled by medication> unless really stressed). > When I brought this up to the doctors, they pretty> much brushed it > aside. These are the same doctors who knew for> years that I had HepC > and didn't tell me it was dangerous or suggest I> seek treatment. Since > joining this list, I know that you people know more> than the doctors > from a "been there done that" standpoint. Would the> treatment be > dangerous for me? Any advice?> > Thanks in advance,> Beth> > > > __________________________________________________

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Hi , our daughter is Bi-Polar & on SSD. I don't thank she could handle this. So I would be talking long & hard with all of my doctor's. Before taken this on.

Terry

M B <bestofmarys57@...> wrote:

About two years ago we lost a friend who was on tx and severely depressed to suicide. It was so hard to cope with since without the treatment it probably never would have happended. Since I have a Bi-Polar Disorder with highs and lows I have some serious concerns about whether I should ever even attempt treatment. My best friend who has Bi-Polar was on tx for 3 months and her mental health symptoms got so bad they stopped the treatment. The surprising news to the docs was that she cleared the virus and is still registering undetectable at 6 months. They thought it would return with a vengence and got a fantastic surprise. Just goes to show you that you never can tell how it's gonna work out. Guess I'll keep trudging. Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: That's what I see. He's great. He had never heard ofa few of my sides but he'll try to help me with them.It took a while to convince him the headaches werefrom the peg, but he believes me now. I think peoplereact many different ways to these drugs, but thatonly thing that would kill us is the depressioncausing suicide, so they have to real careful. Sharon--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:> > Good morning Sharon> My HMO is having me see a gastronterolist for> my Hep C. He listen's to me about all my side> afftects, except for my problem in the bedroom,> saying he had never heard of anyone else compain of> that. But did refear mo to another Doctor. Who put> me on Viagra.> Terryaccess__________________________________________________