Effect of testosterone on cholesterol

April 22, 2010

I just received results from my testosterone and cholesterol tests so I can

compare the results of this test with the results from a couple of months ago.

All the tests were performed by Labcorp.

2/17/2010

Serum testosterone 486 (range 241-827)

Total cholesterol 196 (range 0-199)

HDL cholesterol 66 (range 40-59)

LDL cholesterol 126 (range 0-99)

LDL Particle size 21.1 (Pattern A) larger is better for this one

Small LDL-P 120 (range Low <600, High >1,200)

Triglycerides 45

4/19/2010 (after using Arimidex and HCG for a month)

Serum testosterone 1,070 (range 241-827) need to get that down a bit

Total cholesterol 164 (range 0-199)

HDL cholesterol 51 (range 40-59)

LDL cholesterol 102 (range 0-99)

LDL Particle size 20.4 (Pattern Pattern B is not good

Small LDL-P 601 (range Low <600, High >1,200)

Triglycerides 51

I was disappointed but not surprised that my HDL cholesterol decreased. I've

worked very hard to keep that number between 66 and 76) and also disappointed

that my small LDL particle number increased. HDL cholesterol and small LDL

particle numbers are much better indicators of cardiovascular risk than total

cholesterol or LDL cholesterol. In fact, I'm trying to keep my total cholesterol

between 200 and 220. I'd like to see my LDL a little bit higher.

This is the first time I've been able to compare the relationship between HDL

cholesterol and testosterone levels and the changes are not due to diet this

time because I eat the same thing now as I did two months ago.

All the changes were not due to the change in testosterone by itself. Some of

the decrease in HDL could be because my estrogen is lower, thanks to Arimidex.

I'll be lowering my Androgel a bit to bring my total testosterone down to 700

and I'll get it and my cholesterol rested in a couple of months to see where it

stands.

April 23, 2010

Ed I am sure you read this before but I need to say it any way. If you did your

labs after you put on the gel it can spike up your levels. I tell men to get up

shower off the old gel go do the labs then put on the gel. If you can't do this

put on the gel making sure you don't get any near the spot they take the blood

and do labs 6 hrs after you put on the gel.

There is no way one can get levels this high on the max dose of 10 grams best I

ever did was 600 some make it to 800 never 1000.

If you did not do the above your labs are no good redo them.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Ed T <eterrys@...>

> Subject: Effect of testosterone on cholesterol

>

> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:47 PM

> I just received results from my

> testosterone and cholesterol tests so I can compare the

> results of this test with the results from a couple of

> months ago. All the tests were performed by Labcorp.

>

> 2/17/2010

> Serum testosterone 486 (range 241-827)

> Total cholesterol 196 (range

> 0-199)

> HDL cholesterol 66

> (range 40-59)

> LDL cholesterol 126 (range 0-99)

> LDL Particle size 21.1 (Pattern A)

> larger is better for this one

> Small LDL-P

> 120 (range Low <600, High

> >1,200)

> Triglycerides

> 45

>

> 4/19/2010 (after using Arimidex and HCG for a month)

> Serum testosterone 1,070 (range 241-827) need

> to get that down a bit

> Total cholesterol 164 (range

> 0-199)

> HDL cholesterol 51

> (range 40-59)

> LDL cholesterol 102 (range 0-99)

> LDL Particle size 20.4 (Pattern

> Pattern B is not good

> Small LDL-P

> 601 (range Low <600, High

> >1,200)

> Triglycerides

> 51

>

> I was disappointed but not surprised that my HDL

> cholesterol decreased. I've worked very hard to keep

> that number between 66 and 76) and also disappointed that my

> small LDL particle number increased. HDL cholesterol

> and small LDL particle numbers are much better indicators of

> cardiovascular risk than total cholesterol or LDL

> cholesterol. In fact, I'm trying to keep my total

> cholesterol between 200 and 220. I'd like to see my

> LDL a little bit higher.

>

> This is the first time I've been able to compare the

> relationship between HDL cholesterol and testosterone levels

> and the changes are not due to diet this time because I eat

> the same thing now as I did two months ago.

>

> All the changes were not due to the change in testosterone

> by itself. Some of the decrease in HDL could be

> because my estrogen is lower, thanks to Arimidex. I'll

> be lowering my Androgel a bit to bring my total testosterone

> down to 700 and I'll get it and my cholesterol rested in a

> couple of months to see where it stands.

>

April 23, 2010

The day I had the blood tests done I had not yet applied any Androgel.Â At the

time, I had also been on 10 grams daily.Â My wife says I'm easily offended, so

I guess I have thin skin :-)

Interesting note:Â In the past when I went from 5 to 7.5g, I would get a lot

more acne.Â With Arimidex 0.25mg every 3rd day, even at 10 grams daily, I had

little or no issues with acne.

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:41:33 AM

Subject: Re: Effect of testosterone on cholesterol

Â

Ed I am sure you read this before but I need to say it any way. If you did your

labs after you put on the gel it can spike up your levels. I tell men to get up

shower off the old gel go do the labs then put on the gel. If you can't do this

put on the gel making sure you don't get any near the spot they take the blood

and do labs 6 hrs after you put on the gel.

There is no way one can get levels this high on the max dose of 10 grams best I

ever did was 600 some make it to 800 never 1000.

If you did not do the above your labs are no good redo them.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Ed T <eterrysymail (DOT) com>

> Subject: Effect of testosterone on cholesterol

>

> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:47 PM

> I just received results from my

> testosterone and cholesterol tests so I can compare the

> results of this test with the results from a couple of

> months ago.Â All the tests were performed by Labcorp.

>

> 2/17/2010

> Serum testosterone 486Â (range 241-827)

> Total cholesterolÂ Â Â Â 196Â (range

> 0-199)

> HDL cholesterolÂ Â Â Â Â 66Â

> (range 40-59)

> LDL cholesterolÂ Â Â 126Â (range 0-99)

> LDL Particle sizeÂ Â Â Â 21.1 (Pattern A)

> larger is better for this one

> Small LDL-PÂ Â Â Â

> Â Â Â 120Â (rangeÂ Low <600, High

> >1,200)

> TriglyceridesÂ Â Â Â Â Â

> Â 45

>

> 4/19/2010 (after using Arimidex and HCG for a month)

> Serum testosterone 1,070Â (range 241-827)Â need

> to get that down a bit

> Total cholesterolÂ Â Â Â 164Â (range

> 0-199)

> HDL cholesterolÂ Â Â Â Â 51Â

> (range 40-59)

> LDL cholesterolÂ Â Â 102Â (range 0-99)

> LDL Particle sizeÂ Â Â Â 20.4 (Pattern

> Pattern B is not good

> Small LDL-PÂ Â Â Â

> Â Â Â 601Â (rangeÂ Low <600, High

> >1,200)

> TriglyceridesÂ Â Â Â Â

> Â Â Â 51

>

> I was disappointed but not surprised that my HDL

> cholesterol decreased.Â I've worked very hard to keep

> that number between 66 and 76) and also disappointed that my

> small LDL particle number increased.Â HDL cholesterol

> and small LDL particle numbers are much better indicators of

> cardiovascular risk than total cholesterol or LDL

> cholesterol. In fact, I'm trying to keep my total

> cholesterol between 200 and 220.Â I'd like to see my

> LDL a little bit higher.

>

> This is the first time I've been able to compare the

> relationship between HDL cholesterol and testosterone levels

> and the changes are not due to diet this time because I eat

> the same thing now as I did two months ago.

>

> All the changes were not due to the change in testosterone

> by itself.Â Some of the decrease in HDL could be

> because my estrogen is lower, thanks to Arimidex.Â I'll

> be lowering my Androgel a bit to bring my total testosterone

> down to 700 and I'll get it and my cholesterol rested in a

> couple of months to see where it stands.

>

> Â Â Â

>

April 23, 2010

Ed still if you did not shower off the old gel and you had some on this area

witch you say you don't I still can see how you got levels this high. So if I

were you I would just keep doing what your doing if you feel good.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Ed T <eterrysymail (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Effect of testosterone on

> cholesterol

> >

> > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:47 PM

> > I just received results from my

> > testosterone and cholesterol tests so I can compare

> the

> > results of this test with the results from a couple

> of

> > months ago. All the tests were performed by

> Labcorp.

> >

> > 2/17/2010

> > Serum testosterone 486 (range 241-827)

> > Total cholesterol 196 (range

> > 0-199)

> > HDL cholesterol 66

> > (range 40-59)

> > LDL cholesterol 126 (range 0-99)

> > LDL Particle size 21.1 (Pattern A)

> > larger is better for this one

> > Small LDL-P

> > 120 (range Low <600, High

> > >1,200)

> > Triglycerides

> > 45

> >

> > 4/19/2010 (after using Arimidex and HCG for a month)

> > Serum testosterone 1,070 (range 241-827) need

> > to get that down a bit

> > Total cholesterol 164 (range

> > 0-199)

> > HDL cholesterol 51

> > (range 40-59)

> > LDL cholesterol 102 (range 0-99)

> > LDL Particle size 20.4 (Pattern

> > Pattern B is not good

> > Small LDL-P

> > 601 (range Low <600, High

> > >1,200)

> > Triglycerides

> > 51

> >

> > I was disappointed but not surprised that my HDL

> > cholesterol decreased. I've worked very hard to

> keep

> > that number between 66 and 76) and also disappointed

> that my

> > small LDL particle number increased. HDL

> cholesterol

> > and small LDL particle numbers are much better

> indicators of

> > cardiovascular risk than total cholesterol or LDL

> > cholesterol. In fact, I'm trying to keep my total

> > cholesterol between 200 and 220. I'd like to see my

> > LDL a little bit higher.

> >

> > This is the first time I've been able to compare the

> > relationship between HDL cholesterol and testosterone

> levels

> > and the changes are not due to diet this time because

> I eat

> > the same thing now as I did two months ago.

> >

> > All the changes were not due to the change in

> testosterone

> > by itself. Some of the decrease in HDL could be

> > because my estrogen is lower, thanks to Arimidex.

> I'll

> > be lowering my Androgel a bit to bring my total

> testosterone

> > down to 700 and I'll get it and my cholesterol rested

> in a

> > couple of months to see where it stands.

> >

April 23, 2010

Not to beat a dead horse, but I showered before I had the lab test done.

________________________________

From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:21:56 PM

Subject: Re: Effect of testosterone on cholesterol

Â

Ed still if you did not shower off the old gel and you had some on this area

witch you say you don't I still can see how you got levels this high. So if I

were you I would just keep doing what your doing if you feel good.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Ed T <eterrysymail (DOT) com>

> > Subject: Effect of testosterone on

> cholesterol

> >

> > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:47 PM

> > I just received results from my

> > testosterone and cholesterol tests so I can compare

> the

> > results of this test with the results from a couple

> of

> > months ago.Â All the tests were performed by

> Labcorp.

> >

> > 2/17/2010

> > Serum testosterone 486Â (range 241-827)

> > Total cholesterolÂ Â Â Â 196Â (range

> > 0-199)

> > HDL cholesterolÂ Â Â Â Â 66Â

> > (range 40-59)

> > LDL cholesterolÂ Â Â 126Â (range 0-99)

> > LDL Particle sizeÂ Â Â Â 21.1 (Pattern A)

> > larger is better for this one

> > Small LDL-PÂ Â Â Â

> > Â Â Â 120Â (rangeÂ Low <600, High

> > >1,200)

> > TriglyceridesÂ Â Â Â Â Â

> > Â 45

> >

> > 4/19/2010 (after using Arimidex and HCG for a month)

> > Serum testosterone 1,070Â (range 241-827)Â need

> > to get that down a bit

> > Total cholesterolÂ Â Â Â 164Â (range

> > 0-199)

> > HDL cholesterolÂ Â Â Â Â 51Â

> > (range 40-59)

> > LDL cholesterolÂ Â Â 102Â (range 0-99)

> > LDL Particle sizeÂ Â Â Â 20.4 (Pattern

> > Pattern B is not good

> > Small LDL-PÂ Â Â Â

> > Â Â Â 601Â (rangeÂ Low <600, High

> > >1,200)

> > TriglyceridesÂ Â Â Â Â

> > Â Â Â 51

> >

> > I was disappointed but not surprised that my HDL

> > cholesterol decreased.Â I've worked very hard to

> keep

> > that number between 66 and 76) and also disappointed

> that my

> > small LDL particle number increased.Â HDL

> cholesterol

> > and small LDL particle numbers are much better

> indicators of

> > cardiovascular risk than total cholesterol or LDL

> > cholesterol. In fact, I'm trying to keep my total

> > cholesterol between 200 and 220.Â I'd like to see my

> > LDL a little bit higher.

> >

> > This is the first time I've been able to compare the

> > relationship between HDL cholesterol and testosterone

> levels

> > and the changes are not due to diet this time because

> I eat

> > the same thing now as I did two months ago.

> >

> > All the changes were not due to the change in

> testosterone

> > by itself.Â Some of the decrease in HDL could be

> > because my estrogen is lower, thanks to Arimidex.Â

> I'll

> > be lowering my Androgel a bit to bring my total

> testosterone

> > down to 700 and I'll get it and my cholesterol rested

> in a

> > couple of months to see where it stands.

> >

> > Â Â Â

> >

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