what abut excssively high SHBG?

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I take Androgel,7.5 gms once a day...My Test is high, but I suffer from ED,mood

swing, bone loss, and tiredness. My SHBG is deactivating my  TEST . Is the

anything I can do?

Calvin 

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From: philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>

Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 8:46:48 AM

Subject: Re: Re: E2 symptoms?

 

Tom that is why I thought your DHEA was in your Testoterone gel you said it was

compounded. I use to use a T cream with DHEA. Still I don't feel your feeling

this way due to high levels of Estradiol. But there is a first thing for

everyone.

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Phil

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> > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> > > > Subject: Re: E2 symptoms?

> > > >

> > > > Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 1:21

> PM

> > > > I don't know if all of that can come

> > > > from high E2, but I am sure not any expert.

> > > >

> > > > Mine is high, and I am NOT on TRT.

> > > > I have fatigue, water retention, and

> basically a

> > total

> > > lack

> > > > of interest in sex. I think these are from

> the

> > high E2

> > > in me

> > > > anyway.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Calvin,

I feel your problem is very high Estradiol E2 a good test for this is a Quest

Labs test #4021 the range is 13 to 54 pg/ml men need to be below 30 best at 20.

Also high Estradiol drives up SHBG and as your levels go higher it binds up the

Testosterone levels in your body they are there just not working.

If you can't get your Dr. to test this you can still take some Indolplex/DIM to

get this down it's sold OTC.

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

Don't buy cheap DIM it will not work.

And if your levels are very high this might take some time to come down. If you

can get your Dr. to test this and your say over 50 taking Arimidex 1/2 of a one

mg. pill every other day will bring your levels down. As they come down you

will get back night time and morning wood so strong it will wake you up. I use

this wood to gage how I am doing.

Also when you do labs get up take a shower don't put your gel on do your labs in

the morning. Then put the gel on after they take your blood. You might find if

your not doing this your levels are not as high as you think they are. If you

put on the gel first it will spike up your labs.

If you can't get labs in the morning shower put on the gel keeping it off the

area that they take the blood from and do your labs 6 hrs. later.

Here is a copy of a file I made about not going down to low on Arimidex and one

about DIM.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

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ALL ABOUT DIM.

Sure here is a few links that are all about it. But there are a lot of Co.'s

out there selling DIM that don't work well. Indolplex/DIM is the best it dose

not get killed in your stomach when you take it.

Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a stable indole found in cruciferous vegetables which

promotes a beneficial estrogen metabolism in both women and men.

http://www.dimfaq.com/index.htm

in this link it's full of links about it.

http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html

http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.full

If you have DIM in caps it's not Indolplex so to take this and to get it to work

open the cap pore the DIM into a spoon add some Olive oil and take it this helps

to keep it from getting killed in your stomach.

The following is some links to where you can buy Indolplex/DIM.

http://www.vitaglo.com/e5336.html

http://www.vitacost.com/EnzymaticTherapyEstroBalancewithDIM/searchby-PN/searchte\

xt-dim

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Pure-Rip-with-DIM-60-Tablets/12814?at=0

http://www.estrobalance.net/

http://www.easyhealthzone.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PP0108 & click=71

http://www.nbizz.com/longevityclinic/listings/213.html

http://www.drugnatural.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD & Store_Code=DMOS & Product_\

Code=156497

http://www.smartbomb.com/itindo9.html?utm_source=mercent & utm_medium=shopcompare & \

utm_content=itindo9 & utm_campaign=mbsdb & mr:trackingCode=C6AEFBD1-E681-DE11-B7F3-0\

019B9C043EB & mr:referralID=NA

http://www.ritecare.com/cgi-bin/cart.pl?db=product_db.dat & category=natural+medic\

ine & method=any_words & search=iti-75336

http://www.naturamart.com/phytopharmica-pms-formula-with-indoplex-120-caps.html

How to take Indolplex/DIM take one tablet 120 mgs at dinner time it can take 2

weeks to 2 months to get your Estradiol levels down it’s all about how high

you are in your levels. What you need to do is get this down to about 20 pg/ml.

When you get this low your night time and morning wood will come back so strong

it will wake you up this means most of the time your at your best levels or what

I call the sweet spot. Keep taking the DIM but if your wood stops your going

down to low so just stop taking it. The day your wood comes back go back on

the DIM but cut the tablet in half. If your Testosterone was tested and low but

your not on TRT get it tested again you might find your levels came up some 200

to 300 points.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174

Co-Moderator

Phil

> > > >

> > > > > From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> > > > > Subject: Re: E2

> symptoms?

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010,

> 1:21

> > PM

> > > > > I don't know if all of that can come

> > > > > from high E2, but I am sure not any

> expert.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mine is high, and I am NOT on TRT.

> > > > > I have fatigue, water retention, and

> > basically a

> > > total

> > > > lack

> > > > > of interest in sex. I think these are

> from

> > the

> > > high E2

> > > > in me

> > > > > anyway.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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