Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Hi duffman and welcome, Your in good hands with this Dr. you don't want to be on TRT if you don't need it. I feel your going down to low on the Estradiol taking Arimidex we cut the pills into 4 parts and only take .25 mgs every 2 to 3 days to keep Estradiol levels in the sweet spot that being getting good night time and morning wood. Here are some copys of files I made about how to do this. ==================================================== How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low. What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs. The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it. Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs. I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up. I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days. So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days. I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need ..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days. So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel. Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face. ================================================== Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before they do this. Once your prescription says " 300 caps x 0.1mg " or " 600 caps x 0.05mg " anastrozole " from 1 to 4 daily " , (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the arimidex as compounded into the caps you require. My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too. If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask your pharmacist to do this for you. If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy supply the whole lot. ### A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap. So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box, even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg) .. ---------------------------------------------------- Then there is HCG or Clomid you can go on HCG shots if your testis work good this will act like the LH message sent to your testis from your Pituitary that tells them to make T and this will not shut you down like TRT would you can stop HCG and your testis will just do what they were doing. Co-Moderator Phil > From: duffman_oh_yaeh <duffman_oh_yaeh@...> > Subject: New here, intro and a question about Arimidex > > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 4:45 AM > Hi all > > I'm 23 and have been feeling more like a 75 y/o for many > years now. I think the cause of this is from having pretty > bad genetics and/or having abused recreational drugs at a > very young age. > > I live in Australia and have also been going to dr to dr > and even an endo for many years with frustration as they > weren't experienced or educated enough to treat me so would > always put it down to some kind of cop out like CFS or > depression is the cause of it all. > > My main symptoms that have been the most troubling have > always been chronic fatigue and headaches, but the list goes > on from digestive issues to frequent pissing having to go > all the time worse than a girl. > > After years of disappointment and frustration from dr's and > watching my life stay the same shitty way i decided to bite > the bullet and save up to go see a very expensive ($500 a > session not including bloods wich is like anther $500) > anti-aging/wholistic dr who was recommended on a forum. > > He tested for everything and the results were high > estrogen, low testosterone (but within range), high RT3, > candida and mild heamocromitosis (iron overload). > > His treatment plan diet to eliminate candida, small doses > 15mcg of slow release T3 to lower RT3, monthly vienesections > (blood drainings) for iron overload, and 1g of arimidex > twice a week to lower e2 and get rid of mild gyno/puffy > nipples. I asked what about for low testosterone he said no > testosterone cream is for the rest of your life and i'm > young and it dangerous and went on about it. But when i > thought about it a little it seems smart as all of my > conditions could be causing the low test and it is not > clinically low 14nmpol with the range of 9 - 30 he said i > should be in-between 20 - 30. I'm sure if it doesn't improve > and all options are exhausted he will prescribe it but we > will see. > > ******end of intro/background**** > > Now to my question about arimidex what are the long term > side effects of this drug so far I've herd rumors of e2 > receptors becoming more sensitive and it causing arthritis > by dissolving joints any truth to all this? > > I have been on 1mg twice a week and my puffy nipples didn't > go away now taking 0.5mg EOD and now thinking of upping it > to 0.5 ED cause still have puffy nipples and would like > higher testosterone levels but this is now going to be self > medication as i don't go to my anti-aging dr until anther 2 > months as requested as it's too expensive. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 I've read one study where older men in their 60's were treated with low-dose Arimidex and it did increase their testosterone levels It's possible that Arimidex will increase it to 20. ________________________________ From: duffman_oh_yaeh <duffman_oh_yaeh@...> Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 4:45:06 AM Subject: New here, intro and a question about Arimidex Hi all I'm 23 and have been feeling more like a 75 y/o for many years now. I think the cause of this is from having pretty bad genetics and/or having abused recreational drugs at a very young age. I live in Australia and have also been going to dr to dr and even an endo for many years with frustration as they weren't experienced or educated enough to treat me so would always put it down to some kind of cop out like CFS or depression is the cause of it all. My main symptoms that have been the most troubling have always been chronic fatigue and headaches, but the list goes on from digestive issues to frequent pissing having to go all the time worse than a girl. After years of disappointment and frustration from dr's and watching my life stay the same shitty way i decided to bite the bullet and save up to go see a very expensive ($500 a session not including bloods wich is like anther $500) anti-aging/wholisti c dr who was recommended on a forum. He tested for everything and the results were high estrogen, low testosterone (but within range), high RT3, candida and mild heamocromitosis (iron overload). His treatment plan diet to eliminate candida, small doses 15mcg of slow release T3 to lower RT3, monthly vienesections (blood drainings) for iron overload, and 1g of arimidex twice a week to lower e2 and get rid of mild gyno/puffy nipples. I asked what about for low testosterone he said no testosterone cream is for the rest of your life and i'm young and it dangerous and went on about it. But when i thought about it a little it seems smart as all of my conditions could be causing the low test and it is not clinically low 14nmpol with the range of 9 - 30 he said i should be in-between 20 - 30. I'm sure if it doesn't improve and all options are exhausted he will prescribe it but we will see. ******end of intro/background* *** Now to my question about arimidex what are the long term side effects of this drug so far I've herd rumors of e2 receptors becoming more sensitive and it causing arthritis by dissolving joints any truth to all this? I have been on 1mg twice a week and my puffy nipples didn't go away now taking 0.5mg EOD and now thinking of upping it to 0.5 ED cause still have puffy nipples and would like higher testosterone levels but this is now going to be self medication as i don't go to my anti-aging dr until anther 2 months as requested as it's too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Here are some of the links. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174 http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm Co-Moderator Phil > From: Ed T <eterrys@...> > Subject: Re: New here, intro and a question about Arimidex > > Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 6:23 PM > I've read one study where older men > in their 60's were treated with low-dose Arimidex and it did > increase their testosterone levels It's possible that > Arimidex will increase it to 20. > > > > ________________________________ > From: duffman_oh_yaeh <duffman_oh_yaeh@...> > > Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 4:45:06 AM > Subject: New here, intro and a question > about Arimidex > > > Hi all > > I'm 23 and have been feeling more like a 75 y/o for many > years now. I think the cause of this is from having pretty > bad genetics and/or having abused recreational drugs at a > very young age. > > I live in Australia and have also been going to dr to dr > and even an endo for many years with frustration as they > weren't experienced or educated enough to treat me so would > always put it down to some kind of cop out like CFS or > depression is the cause of it all. > > My main symptoms that have been the most troubling have > always been chronic fatigue and headaches, but the list goes > on from digestive issues to frequent pissing having to go > all the time worse than a girl. > > After years of disappointment and frustration from dr's and > watching my life stay the same shitty way i decided to bite > the bullet and save up to go see a very expensive ($500 a > session not including bloods wich is like anther $500) > anti-aging/wholisti c dr who was recommended on a forum. > > He tested for everything and the results were high > estrogen, low testosterone (but within range), high RT3, > candida and mild heamocromitosis (iron overload). > > His treatment plan diet to eliminate candida, small doses > 15mcg of slow release T3 to lower RT3, monthly vienesections > (blood drainings) for iron overload, and 1g of arimidex > twice a week to lower e2 and get rid of mild gyno/puffy > nipples. I asked what about for low testosterone he said no > testosterone cream is for the rest of your life and i'm > young and it dangerous and went on about it. But when i > thought about it a little it seems smart as all of my > conditions could be causing the low test and it is not > clinically low 14nmpol with the range of 9 - 30 he said i > should be in-between 20 - 30. I'm sure if it doesn't improve > and all options are exhausted he will prescribe it but we > will see. > > ******end of intro/background* *** > > Now to my question about arimidex what are the long term > side effects of this drug so far I've herd rumors of e2 > receptors becoming more sensitive and it causing arthritis > by dissolving joints any truth to all this? > > I have been on 1mg twice a week and my puffy nipples didn't > go away now taking 0.5mg EOD and now thinking of upping it > to 0.5 ED cause still have puffy nipples and would like > higher testosterone levels but this is now going to be self > medication as i don't go to my anti-aging dr until anther 2 > months as requested as it's too expensive. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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