Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Hi, I have a question for you Earl. I am wondering if a goiter will go away if the thyroid is no longer being taxed? or is it kind of like a lymph once it has been swolen? sometimes it never goes away. thanks , Sabra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Sabra: A goitre is the thyroid trying desperately to make enough hormone. If it has the nutrients required, like Thyrodine, plus kelp on food, then the goitre should disappear. Lymph nodes likewise are an indication of excess toxicity. As soon as one detoxes, the gland will return to normal. The lymph system is the body's sewer system. Our environment is so full of toxins that the liver and lymphatics have a tough time coping. Thats why organically grown food is so important....and NO drugs which do untold harm and stuff the liver and lymphatics. Earl RE: test results Hi, I have a question for you Earl. I am wondering if a goiter will go away if the thyroid is no longer being taxed? or is it kind of like a lymph once it has been swolen? sometimes it never goes away. thanks , Sabra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Thankyou Earl, What is the shelf life of thyrodine? I have some left but I bought it over a year ago.It's been in a dark place all along.Do you think it is it still good? Powerful secrets for building the perfect internet business Check it out !!! http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?138502 >From: " Earl Conroy " <waiorama@...> >Reply-hypothyroidism ><hypothyroidism > >Subject: RE: test results >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:08:18 +1200 > >Sabra: >A goitre is the thyroid trying desperately to make enough hormone. If it >has >the nutrients required, like Thyrodine, plus kelp on food, then the goitre >should disappear. >Lymph nodes likewise are an indication of excess toxicity. As soon as one >detoxes, the gland will return to normal. The lymph system is the body's >sewer system. Our environment is so full of toxins that the liver and >lymphatics have a tough time coping. >Thats why organically grown food is so important....and NO drugs which do >untold harm and stuff the liver and lymphatics. >Earl > > RE: test results > > >Hi, I have a question for you Earl. I am wondering if a goiter will go away >if the thyroid is no longer being taxed? or is it kind of like a lymph once >it has been swolen? sometimes it never goes away. thanks , Sabra > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Sabra: I've had some Thyrodine in my fridge for a couple of years and its perfect. You really need to finish it as directed, take your under arm temperature to determine if you need a further supply...97.+ to 98.0 would indicate more needed. Earl RE: test results > > >Hi, I have a question for you Earl. I am wondering if a goiter will go away >if the thyroid is no longer being taxed? or is it kind of like a lymph once >it has been swolen? sometimes it never goes away. thanks , Sabra > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 hi there - I had a 2nd bx after one year - even though my labs came down to quite normal - I still had alot of discomfort - we did the 2nd bx which showed significant changes - im glad I had the 2nd bx - paula aih 4/00 [ ] Test results > I recently went to see my new hepatologist, Dr. Black, at Temple > University in Philadelphia, Pa. I saw him a month ago and was > impressed as he wanted to see me back in 1 month and seemed to care. > He said all my blood tests came back normal so he recommends a new > liver biopsy or a liver biopsy with a Laproscopic (?) where he can go > in with a surgeon and look at my liver and take pictures. He wants > to do it in 2 weeks. Am I missing something here or is this normal. > He's the lst serious dr. that I have had in 2 yrs. The others have > said nothing is wrong because of the good blood tests. > I asked for copies of my test results and everything seems normal > except for the Alpha-Fetoprotein, Tumor Marker. It came back (in > range) at 2.0 A whole page was written about it that I don't > understand. It said rebaseling will be available effective > immediately for a period of 60 days. Does this sound serious? 2and > l/2 yrs and I still don't know what's wrong with me except for AIH > and they don't know what's wrong with me so I guess the exploratory > is a good thing. > PROTHROMBIN TIME WITH INR......0.9 > ANTINUCLEAR ANTIBODIES w/ REFL TITER & PATTERN.......<140 > MITOCHONDRIAL AB W/REFL TITER ....<1:20 > SMOOTH MUSCLE AB W/REFK TUTER.....<1:20 > HEP.B AND HEP.C........NON-REACTIVE > these dont look too good either. Is there anyone who know what any > of this means? I will be seeing him before the operation for > pretesting. Is there any suggestions to what I might ask? Thanks > again, Cherry > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Again another story about being mistreated. AGH!!! It pisses me off. I'm sorry that you went through that. Having no insurance now must make you feel even more powerless. Maybe you should post who it was so that no one else has to experience what you did. - Boston ----Original Message Follows---- From: Plant Flowers <haggisisscotsfood@...> Reply-hypothyroidism Hypothyroidism Subject: Test Results Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) These are some of my test results....I need help in interpreting them. Obiously, the endo should have explained them to me, but....... Free T4 - 1.19 TSH 4 Antibody - non-dete Fastinb Blood Glucose - 157 - the blood was drawn at 3 pm and I had not eaten since the previous midnight. Triglycerides 259 Erythrocyte Sed Rate 34 (lab values female 0-20) The endo I went to was on the top docs list on about thyroid.com. Silly me, I thought that would assure me of getting a caring doc. She mentioned how much business that top doc recommendation had brought her. I had printed out articles from the site about the TSH being normal at 2, which I tried to show/give to her. She was dismissive, and she said " all that stuff sounds good, but it just doesn't work that way in real life. " She was dismissive of other things I said too. She spent only a few minutes with me, and did blood work and a urine collection for an adrenal test. She billed my ins. co about $1400. I waited and waited to hear from her. She had said her nurse would be in touch with me and let me know the test results as soon as she got them back, whether they were normal or abnormal. She bragged about how good her communication with patients is. When I did not hear from her nurse, I began calling the office. I phoned several times a week. I was always told the nurse was busy but she would call me back that evening around 4 pm. I spent hours sitting by my phone. I called a dozen times....no reply. I sent the doc a letter; it was ignored. I phoned my ins co to complain about the doc. They did not care. Finally I phoned the endo's office and said I was filing a complaint with the state licensing board. Only then did I get my test results. It took about eight weeks, maybe ten. Meantime, my COBRA insurance was running out. It is incredible to me how these doctors behave. How do they get away with this? Is it because we let them? I now have no insurance. Jody __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 In a message dated 01/06/2002 9:53:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, haggisisscotsfood@... writes: The endo I went to was on the top docs list on about thyroid.com. Silly me, I thought that would assure me of getting a caring doc. She mentioned how much business that top doc recommendation had brought her. If I were you, I'd write to Thyroid.About and give them feedback on the doc you got from their list. Tell them what you've told us! I'm certain they would want to know so they can either take her name off the list or warn others away. I can't imagine they would want their name and recommendation going to someone so callous and unwilling to do anything more than bill huge sums to a patient's insurance company. Just my opinion, in LA "We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey http://geocities.com/llheinsohn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Can we post the names? That is a really HELPFUL idea! Ann IamStaley@... Test Results Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) These are some of my test results....I need help in interpreting them. Obiously, the endo should have explained them to me, but....... Free T4 - 1.19 TSH 4 Antibody - non-dete Fastinb Blood Glucose - 157 - the blood was drawn at 3 pm and I had not eaten since the previous midnight. Triglycerides 259 Erythrocyte Sed Rate 34 (lab values female 0-20) The endo I went to was on the top docs list on about thyroid.com. Silly me, I thought that would assure me of getting a caring doc. She mentioned how much business that top doc recommendation had brought her. I had printed out articles from the site about the TSH being normal at 2, which I tried to show/give to her. She was dismissive, and she said " all that stuff sounds good, but it just doesn't work that way in real life. " She was dismissive of other things I said too. She spent only a few minutes with me, and did blood work and a urine collection for an adrenal test. She billed my ins. co about $1400. I waited and waited to hear from her. She had said her nurse would be in touch with me and let me know the test results as soon as she got them back, whether they were normal or abnormal. She bragged about how good her communication with patients is. When I did not hear from her nurse, I began calling the office. I phoned several times a week. I was always told the nurse was busy but she would call me back that evening around 4 pm. I spent hours sitting by my phone. I called a dozen times....no reply. I sent the doc a letter; it was ignored. I phoned my ins co to complain about the doc. They did not care. Finally I phoned the endo's office and said I was filing a complaint with the state licensing board. Only then did I get my test results. It took about eight weeks, maybe ten. Meantime, my COBRA insurance was running out. It is incredible to me how these doctors behave. How do they get away with this? Is it because we let them? I now have no insurance. Jody __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 I don't think there's any problem with posting names. I think that would be great too. I love my endo and anyone in Cleveland would be wise to see him. At the same time it would be nice to know who to avoid. Tammy Re: Test ResultsAgain another story about being mistreated. AGH!!! It pisses me off. I'm sorry that you went through that. Having no insurance now must make you feel even more powerless. Maybe you should post who it was so that no one else has to experience what you did. - Boston----Original Message Follows----From: Plant Flowers <haggisisscotsfood@...>Reply-hypothyroidism To: Hypothyroidism Subject: Test ResultsDate: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:53:20 -0800 (PST)These are some of my test results....I need help ininterpreting them. Obiously, the endo should haveexplained them to me, but.......Free T4 - 1.19TSH 4Antibody - non-deteFastinb Blood Glucose - 157 - the blood was drawn at 3 pm and I had not eaten since the previous midnight.Triglycerides 259Erythrocyte Sed Rate 34 (lab values female 0-20)The endo I went to was on the top docs list onabout thyroid.com. Silly me, I thought that wouldassure me of getting a caring doc. She mentioned howmuch business that top doc recommendation had broughther.I had printed out articles from the site about the TSHbeing normal at 2, which I tried to show/give to her.She was dismissive, andshe said "all that stuff sounds good, but it justdoesn't work that way in real life."She was dismissive of other things I said too.She spent only a few minutes with me, and did bloodwork and a urine collection for an adrenal test.She billed my ins. co about $1400.I waited and waited to hear from her. She had saidhernurse would be in touch with me and let me knowthe test results as soon as she got them back,whether they were normal or abnormal. She braggedabout how good her communication with patients is.When I did not hear from her nurse, I began callingthe office. I phoned several times a week. I wasalways told the nurse was busy but she would call meback that evening around 4 pm. I spent hours sittingby my phone. I called a dozen times....no reply.I sent the doc a letter; it was ignored. I phonedmy ins co to complain about the doc. They did notcare.Finally I phoned the endo's office and said I wasfiling a complaint with the state licensing board.Only then did I get my test results. It took abouteight weeks, maybe ten. Meantime, my COBRA insurancewas running out.It is incredible to me how these doctors behave.How do they get away with this? Is it becausewe let them?I now have no insurance.Jody__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Good news Jen on your cholesterol~ Just hope they can figure what is going on with the labs! debby [ ] test results Hi everyone,I went home over spring break to get some blood work done and was hoping they would come back better than the last time. Currently they do not know exactly what is wrong with me except that my liver enzymes AST and ALT's are very high and of course my cholesterol. So I went to doctor and was told that my levels had went up a total of 80 pts in 3 months, not good and that they want me to get the biopsy done soon instead of waiting till this summer, too bad the liver specialist is a pain to get into. good news was my cholesterol came down 30 pts still not in the good range by any means but at least the news wasn't totally bad. Guess i just have to keep waiting and hoping that someday they will get better.jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Dear Jen How high were the ALT and AST tests? Are they going up or just staying there elevated? Mine were up in the 800 and 300 range for a few months. I developed very mild fibrosis from it, but the doctor is not worried. The levels have come down to 29 and 49 while I have been on prednisone and  Imuran for the past 2 ½ weeks.  and her Limp Liver Re: [ ] test results Good news Jen on your cholesterol~ Just hope they can figure what is going on with the labs! debby [ ] test results Hi everyone, I went home over spring break to get some blood work done and was hoping they would come back better than the last time. Currently they do not know exactly what is wrong with me except that my liver enzymes AST and ALT's are very high and of course my cholesterol. So I went to doctor and was told that my levels had went up a total of 80 pts in 3 months, not good and that they want me to get the biopsy done soon instead of waiting till this summer, too bad the liver specialist is a pain to get into. good news was my cholesterol came down 30 pts still not in the good range by any means but at least the news wasn't totally bad. Guess i just have to keep waiting and hoping that someday they will get better. jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 I got my test back today...negative. Am feeling kind of sad and guilty that my spouse is alone in having it, even though I know that feeling is ridiculous! He has no overt symptoms; we are waiting for his second set of blood tests to see what his viral levels are or something like that. He still insists on drinking his usual 6 pack a day...am hoping he will have some sense about that sooner rather than later. but no amount of bugging him about it would help, so...It does pain me to watch him drinking when I know (and have told him) it is bad for the Hep C disease. Skyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Skyler I am glad you don't have the Dragon...I understand about watching your hubby drink..I too have one that drinks and we know his enzymes are high but he refuses to go get tested to see why they are..I am thinking he has chirrosis..He is scared to go get test to find out why his are elevated but refuses to quit drinking..Everyday I watch him drink too so if you need to talk more about this you can e-mail me privately but there are a few recovering alcoholics in here or spouses of alcoholics..My hubby is one..He's just in denial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 <P>You should be happy. I'm sure your spouse would feel much worse if he & nbsp;knew he had passed it along to you. As long as he knows the danger of drinking with this disease, all you can do is support him, you can't make him stop. Hopefully as it sinks in he will & nbsp;decide to stop or at least minimize it. I was lucky, I had quit drinking before I knew I had hcv for numerous other reasons. I couldn't honestly & nbsp;say if knowing I had hcv would have stopped me or not, it was a difficult decision to come to for me. & nbsp;Good luck to you and your husband I will be praying for the best for you. & nbsp; -dz- & nbsp; <P> & nbsp; <B><I>tangly cottage gardening & lt;tangly@... & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid " ><TT>I got my test back today...negative. & nbsp; Am feeling kind of sad and guilty that<BR>my spouse is alone in having it, even though I know that feeling is<BR>ridiculous! & nbsp; He has no overt symptoms; we are waiting for his second set of<BR>blood tests to see what his viral levels are or something like that. & nbsp; He<BR>still insists on drinking his usual 6 pack a day...am hoping he will have<BR>some sense about that sooner rather than later. but no amount of bugging him<BR>about it would help, so...It does pain me to watch him drinking when I know<BR>(and have told him) it is bad for the Hep C disease.<BR><BR>Skyler<BR><BR></TT><BR><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0> <TBODY> <TR bgColor=#ffffcc> <TD align=middle><FONT color=#003399 size=-1><B> Groups Sponsor</B></FONT></TD></TR> <TR bgColor=#ffffff> <TD align=middle width=470> <FORM action=http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=170510\ 3589:HM/A=1046314/R=0/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 method=get target=_top><INPUT type=hidden value=3225 name=code> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=middle><FONT face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</FONT><BR> <TABLE height=250 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=300 bgColor=#ff6600 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width=300 colSpan=2><A href= " http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705103\ 589:HM/A=1046314/R=1/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 " ><IMG height=102 src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets/06042002_300x250_orange_01.gi\ f " width=300 border=0></A></TD></TR> <TR> <TD vAlign=top align=right width=110><A href= " http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705103\ 589:HM/A=1046314/R=2/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 " ><IMG height=147 alt= " " src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets/06042002_300x250_orange_02.gi\ f " width=109 border=0></A></TD> <TD vAlign=top align=left width=190 border= " 0 " > <TABLE height=147 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=189 bgColor=#ffffff border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Height:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<SELECT name=htft> <OPTION value=4>4<OPTION value=5 selected>5<OPTION value=6>6<OPTION value=7>7</OPTION></SELECT> & nbsp;<FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=1>ft</FONT> <SELECT name=htin> <OPTION value=0>0<OPTION value=1>1<OPTION value=2>2<OPTION value=3>3<OPTION value=4 selected>4<OPTION value=5>5<OPTION value=6>6<OPTION value=7>7<OPTION value=8>8<OPTION value=9>9<OPTION value=10>10<OPTION value=11>11</OPTION></SELECT> <FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=1>in</FONT></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Weight:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<INPUT maxLength=3 size=7 name=wt></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Sex:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=female name=sex> <FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=1>F</FONT> <INPUT type=radio value=male name=sex> <FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=1>M</FONT></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT type=submit value= " Submit Now " ></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>\ </FORM></TD></TR> <TR> <TD><IMG height=1 alt= " " src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705103589:HM/A=1046314/rand=618842319 " width=1></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --><BR><TT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Skyler that is wonderful that you are negative. Re: [ ] test results Skyler I am glad you don't have the Dragon...I understand about watching your hubby drink..I too have one that drinks and we know his enzymes are high but he refuses to go get tested to see why they are..I am thinking he has chirrosis..He is scared to go get test to find out why his are elevated but refuses to quit drinking..Everyday I watch him drink too so if you need to talk more about this you can e-mail me privately but there are a few recovering alcoholics in here or spouses of alcoholics..My hubby is one..He's just in denial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Hi, Skyler, As a recovered alcoholic myself, my heart goes out to you. A six-pack of beer is a LOT of alcohol to consume on a daily basis. It's got to be causing a lot of damage. The good thing is that the liver is the only major organ in the body that regenerates itself. I've met people in AA who have had really bad cirrhosis, but have put it in remission by cleaning up their act. To quit drinking you have to hurt enough to want to stop, and I only hope your spouse will find his 'bottom' soon. Take care, Re: [ ] test results > I got my test back today...negative. Am feeling kind of sad and guilty that > my spouse is alone in having it, even though I know that feeling is > ridiculous! He has no overt symptoms; we are waiting for his second set of > blood tests to see what his viral levels are or something like that. He > still insists on drinking his usual 6 pack a day...am hoping he will have > some sense about that sooner rather than later. but no amount of bugging him > about it would help, so...It does pain me to watch him drinking when I know > (and have told him) it is bad for the Hep C disease. > > Skyler > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 It is GREAT that you are negative. It will be much easier to have only one person on treatment. I agree with everyone else, it will have to be his choice to quit drinking. I'm sorry you will have to watch though. When you care about someone it is really hard to watch them slowly destroy themselves. I too , enjoyed drinking. After a rough day at work and then having to come home to 5 kids, a glass of wine or 2 was wonderful. But I've chosen to live as long as possible and thank God I could just walk away from it. Some people just can't. Congratulations on your test results and good luck. Sharon __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 <P> & nbsp; Skyler, that is good news. I will be praying for your spouse to quit drinking & amp; for you as you woory about him. <P> & nbsp; & nbsp; Terry <P> & nbsp; <B><I>tangly cottage gardening & lt;tangly@... & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid " ><TT>I got my test back today...negative. & nbsp; Am feeling kind of sad and guilty that<BR>my spouse is alone in having it, even though I know that feeling is<BR>ridiculous! & nbsp; He has no overt symptoms; we are waiting for his second set of<BR>blood tests to see what his viral levels are or something like that. & nbsp; He<BR>still insists on drinking his usual 6 pack a day...am hoping he will have<BR>some sense about that sooner rather than later. but no amount of bugging him<BR>about it would help, so...It does pain me to watch him drinking when I know<BR>(and have told him) it is bad for the Hep C disease.<BR><BR>Skyler<BR><BR></TT><BR><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0> <TBODY> <TR bgColor=#ffffcc> <TD align=middle><FONT color=#003399 size=-1><B> Groups Sponsor</B></FONT></TD></TR> <TR bgColor=#ffffff> <TD align=middle width=470> <FORM action=http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=170510\ 3589:HM/A=1046314/R=0/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 method=get target=_top><INPUT type=hidden value=3225 name=code> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=middle><FONT face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</FONT><BR> <TABLE height=250 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=300 bgColor=#ff6600 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width=300 colSpan=2><A href= " http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705103\ 589:HM/A=1046314/R=1/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 " ><IMG height=102 src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets/06042002_300x250_orange_01.gi\ f " width=300 border=0></A></TD></TR> <TR> <TD vAlign=top align=right width=110><A href= " http://rd./M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705103\ 589:HM/A=1046314/R=2/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3225 " ><IMG height=147 alt= " " src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets/06042002_300x250_orange_02.gi\ f " width=109 border=0></A></TD> <TD vAlign=top align=left width=190 border= " 0 " > <TABLE height=147 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=189 bgColor=#ffffff border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Height:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<SELECT name=htft> <OPTION value=4>4<OPTION value=5 selected>5<OPTION value=6>6<OPTION value=7>7</OPTION></SELECT> & nbsp;<FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=1>ft</FONT> <SELECT name=htin> <OPTION value=0>0<OPTION value=1>1<OPTION value=2>2<OPTION value=3>3<OPTION value=4 selected>4<OPTION value=5>5<OPTION value=6>6<OPTION value=7>7<OPTION value=8>8<OPTION value=9>9<OPTION value=10>10<OPTION value=11>11</OPTION></SELECT> <FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=1>in</FONT></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Weight:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<INPUT maxLength=3 size=7 name=wt></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=right><FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=2><B>Sex:</B></FONT></TD> <TD> & nbsp;<INPUT type=radio CHECKED value=female name=sex> <FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=1>F</FONT> <INPUT type=radio value=male name=sex> <FONT face=Arial color=#cc6600 size=1>M</FONT></TD></TR> <TR> <TD align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT type=submit value= " Submit Now " ></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>\ </FORM></TD></TR> <TR> <TD><IMG height=1 alt= " " src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=194081.2053425.3521449.1829184/D=egroupmai\ l/S=1705103589:HM/A=1046314/rand=618842319 " width=1></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --><BR><TT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Each journey starts with a single step... That is a lot!! Re: [ ] test results> Skylar>> I had alt's that high for years before treatment. If stops drinking> they should improve quite a bit though. Mine did.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Those counts are misleading. Even though they say the norm is 30-65, 322 is not really that abnormal (for someone with hcv). When they go up they can go quite high. I have read that they can go over 1000. The other enzyme is probably AST, which normal is around 40. Again the numbers can be misleading. 300 is not twice as bad as 150, etc. Also the enzyme levels and viral load are not necessarily indicative of the amount of liver damage. That's where the biopsy comes in. To my knowledge that is the only true test of the condition of the liver. Without it you may not know the extent of any liver damage, but they can apparently tell that the liver is still functioning ok. -dz- tangly cottage gardening <tangly@...> wrote: My spouse got back his test results today. He is a type 1-A, his ALTis 322...the ALD (? can hardly read 's scrawl and he would not let mego with him to the doc!) is 168, his viral load is 1600 (million).The doctor advised him to wait for better treatment than interferon; becauseof his chronic depression, interferon would be way too dangerous for him,acc. to the doc.The doc believes that better treatment will be along in time for him.He also suggests not going through the difficulties of a liver biopsy sincethey cannot treat him with interferon anyway.He also told him he MUST stop drinking. And seems like he believesthat.But that will be hard...he has been drinking 6 16 oz beers every day, withthe occasional binge, for years...Help! Does anyone on this list have ALTS this high...viral load thishigh...not taking interferon...but still alive?? I am scared.Skyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 Just take one day at a time. Don't even thank about tomorrow. Before you know it, it is a week month year. We will be keeping you in our prayers Terry WILLIAM A WALTKE <kbwaltke@...> wrote: Each journey starts with a single step... That is a lot!! Re: [ ] test results> Skylar>> I had alt's that high for years before treatment. If stops drinking> they should improve quite a bit though. Mine did.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Well, the not drinking lasted one day...last night he was back to a 6 pack...but for the first time he admitted he has a real problem with stopping and he is reading a great book about alcoholism called Under the Influence...the best I can get right now is that he says he will cut down to 2 a day (I have heard that before, too....) I dread to think how this will shorten his life, but he knows the facts about how alcohol may make the disease replicate faster (right?)...although he says then why isn;t he dead already from drinking so much? Sigh...I am just going to have to let go because I can;t make him stop....At least he is trying for the first time since I have known him (11 years). Re: [ ] test results > > Just take one day at a time. Don't even thank about tomorrow. Before you know it, it is a week month year. > We will be keeping you in our prayers > Terry - Your Music Experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Well, progress not perfection. If he at least is not in denial, there is hope. It's not easy and it may take some time for him to realize that he must stop. If he can drink 2 a day and not exceed that, then maybe he is not dependent. If he can't stick to what he has allotted himself, chances are good that he needs further help. Good luck. I drank heavily for 14 years with hcv (unknowingly). Luckily for me, I hit the bottom and quit 5 years before I found out I had it. -dz- In AA there is a saying that whatever the terrible things are that alcoholics go through, if we haven't gone through them we must always add the word "yet". As in "It hasn't killed me yet" or I haven't hurt anybody in a drinking and driving accident yet. etc..... -dz- tangly cottage gardening <tangly@...> wrote: Well, the not drinking lasted one day...last night he was back to a 6pack...but for the first time he admitted he has a real problem withstopping and he is reading a great book about alcoholism called Under theInfluence...the best I can get right now is that he says he will cut down to2 a day (I have heard that before, too....) I dread to think how this willshorten his life, but he knows the facts about how alcohol may make thedisease replicate faster (right?)...although he says then why isn;t he deadalready from drinking so much? Sigh...I am just going to have to let gobecause I can;t make him stop....At least he is trying for the first timesince I have known him (11 years). Re: [ ] test results>> Just take one day at a time. Don't even thank about tomorrow. Beforeyou know it, it is a week month year.> We will be keeping you in our prayers> Terry- Your Music Experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Admitting he has a problem is the first step. Alcohol destroys your liver. So between the alcohol and the hep , you get double destruction. Have you ever been to an al-anon meeting, it's for family and friends of alcoholics. You can usually find them with your local AA. Sharon --- tangly cottage gardening <tangly@...> wrote: > Well, the not drinking lasted one day...last night > he was back to a 6 > pack...but for the first time he admitted he has a > real problem with > stopping and he is reading a great book about > alcoholism called Under the > Influence...the best I can get right now is that he > says he will cut down to > 2 a day (I have heard that before, too....) I dread > to think how this will > shorten his life, but he knows the facts about how > alcohol may make the > disease replicate faster (right?)...although he says > then why isn;t he dead > already from drinking so much? Sigh...I am just > going to have to let go > because I can;t make him stop....At least he is > trying for the first time > since I have known him (11 years). > > > > Re: [ ] test results > > > > > > Just take one day at a time. Don't even thank > about tomorrow. Before > you know it, it is a week month year. > > We will be keeping you in our prayers > > Terry > - Your Music Experience > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2002 Report Share Posted May 24, 2002 Hello, Terry, ....the best I can get right now is that he says he will cut down to 2 a day (I have heard that before, too....) Been there and done that! It almost always doesn't work -- which is why, not only AA, but almost every other group or person working in the field says that complete abstinence is the only way. And you can't do it alone! Maybe going to Alanon, as someone else suggested, will help you to cope with this? Best wishes, > Well, the not drinking lasted one day...last night he was back to a 6 > pack...but for the first time he admitted he has a real problem with > stopping and he is reading a great book about alcoholism called Under the > Influence...the best I can get right now is that he says he will cut down to > 2 a day (I have heard that before, too....) I dread to think how this will > shorten his life, but he knows the facts about how alcohol may make the > disease replicate faster (right?)...although he says then why isn;t he dead > already from drinking so much? Sigh...I am just going to have to let go > because I can;t make him stop....At least he is trying for the first time > since I have known him (11 years). > > > > Re: [ ] test results > > > > > > Just take one day at a time. Don't even thank about tomorrow. Before > you know it, it is a week month year. > > We will be keeping you in our prayers > > Terry > - Your Music Experience > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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